Poll: Liberal or Conservative?

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Wardog13 said:
Dys said:
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Dys said:
Religon has no place in government, I beleive in individual freedoms so, as should be obvious, I am liberal.
Sounds more conservative to me.
Conservative is the one where everything is in gods name, where religious laws are often the basis for real laws. Liberal is the one where everyone is free, everything is about the individual and it is seen as wrong to project your beleifs onto others...IE everyone is equal and free (Tony abbott and his stance of abortions is a typical conservative policy in Australian politics). An extreme conservative government is strictly regulated and everyone beleives the same thing, an extreme liberal government is one where Anarchy rules.
It seems you arnt familiar with the real meanings of the terms "conservative" and "liberal"

Conservative=Little Government

Liberal=More Government

The way people use the terms are way off for example, "liberals" want to legalize drugs, but removing a law removes some government, in other words, its a conservative idea.
I'd recommend you do a little research before you patronize me. Being liberal or conservative has no bearing on the size of a government. Anarchy is described as an extreme liberal idealogy, and they have no government. Liberal is very much a beleif in equality of the people. Legalizing drugs is not conservative veiw (really, it is just so wrong to say it is), it is a liberal veiw because it is increasing peoples freedoms (which, as in this example, is not necissarily a good thing all the time).

liberalism has a wikipedia page as does conservative. Have fun.

sneakypenguin said:
Dys said:
sneakypenguin said:
Wardog13 said:
Dys said:
Religon has no place in government, I beleive in individual freedoms so, as should be obvious, I am liberal.
Sounds more conservative to me.
Yeah I was gonna say... Most "conservative" voices out there hound on individual freedom and responsibility.
No sensible politician, regardless of their beleifs, would publicly contest peoples freedoms.
However it is the liberals who are the stronger beleivers in peoples freedoms, it's the conservatives that contest homosexuals, who beleive and in some cases enforce religious beleifs on others and who don't beleive in helping those less fortunate (state schools pretty much get ignored, public hospitals are left to dry up and die) etc etc
But they will hammer your freedoms if you are rich though.

Taking money from someone to pay for someones housing food or cell phone bill isn't adding freedom. It's adding benefits, but it's taking away the freedom to keep the profit of ones labor.
The idea is that it gives more people more freedom, and while I do agree that the benifets is done abysmally, I also beleive that people earning millions of dollars a year should contribute more money to societys infrastructure(not for stupid g'ment add campagns or bullshit "we're helping" money funneling). I don't beleive that anyone should go hungry, but I do beleive that people who don't work shouldn't get so much that they aren't motivated to improve themselves.
 

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I put Other. I'm a Libertarian.

Libertarian: A believer in a political doctrine that emphasises individual liberty and a lack of governmental regulation and oversight both in matters of the economy ('free market') and in personal behavior where no one's rights are being violated or threatened.
This, I checked "Liberal" though mainly for the "personal behavior" aspect above.
 

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I'm generally libertarian except I believe in an very strong military.

Republicans/ democrats all favor larger government so I dislike either party. But until we get proportional representation we are stuck(except in extreme cases) with a bi-polar system.
NO YOU IDIOT
A REPUBLIC IS A SMALL GOVERMENT
When you have a democrasy that means everyone is in the goverment, MWAHAHAHAHA.

You are talking about the types of goverments right and not parties?
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I am moderate, Ill just list out my stance on some issues

Iraq War: I think we shouldent have gone in the first place, but we are there now and we must finish the job.

Abortion: I dont like it, but the goverment shouldent have say here, except for a ban against partial birth abortions, except for certain circumstances,

Immigration: Yes on Legal, No on Illegal, amnesty for anyone here, if they pay taxes, and get naturalized and documented.

Gay Marriage: I dont care for it, but the goverment shouldent have say here.

Global Warming: I am not convinced it is manmade, but we should take some steps just to be safe.

Nuclear Power: Yes, we need it it, its clean and its efficient

Affirmative Action: Fuck It

Gun Control: Less regulation because gun control dosent work in the first place, but I do think that automatic weapons dont need to be in the hands of civilians.
I am an Australian Liberal. (That's Conservative for those north of the eqator)
I agree with your position on Iraq War, Jimmygrantion, Nuclear Power, Affirmative Action, and Gun Control.
I'll just say something using irony now.

HOW CAN YOU NOT BE FOR GAY MARRIAGES?!
No one would get married if they didn't have a gay time. INFACT IF YOUR MARRIAGE ISN'T GAY IT'S VERY VERY DEPRESSING!.

Now irony aside here is why I am against Homosexual Marriages.
Marriage is DEFINED in the DICTIONARY(According to Dictionary.com) as quote
"?noun
1. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
2. the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: a happy marriage.
3. the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of a man and woman to live as husband and wife, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage. " end quote
If homosexual marriage becomes legal then we should all throw out the dictionaries, as they become worthless.
Next thing you know there would be Chinease leprecauns, Lesbians that aren't Greek, curry munchers that don't munch curry, or even tinfoil hats made from paper machie!
If we don't protect our language by making sure law makers don't fiddle with meanings then we have let the English language die...
I mean look how the frenchy french (Whom if I should mention, are FRENCH and they also come from France) protect thier language as they only let it evolve 3 words per year.
 

Zacharine

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Liberal or conservative?

What kind of questions is that!? It depends entirely on the issue at hand, though if I have to answer either one, I do tend to lean a tad more to the liberal side of things on most issues.

But I've never met a politician that would voluntarily define him/herself as either. While extremely good at giving non-answers, most do tend to take a stance on most issues, doubly so when it's voting time.

Then I simply examine the personalities and their stances of things. I usually end up between four or five candidates from 3 or 4 parties, between which I then choose at the polling station.

Applies to all voting of politicians that I do.
 

Abedeus

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I have no idea which one is which.

We don't have "liberal and conservative" in Poland, only right-wing and left-wing. I don't know which one is liberal and conservative, seriously.
 

fasteddie_felson

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I put myself down as Liberal, but you decide:
I like violent fps like Left 4 Dead, Fallout 3 (violent rpg) look forward to the new Diablo and Starcraft both. I'm against censorship but not ratings as guidelines. As an adult my entertainment is fucking mine, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, I don't want anyone telling me what I can play or which movies I can see.

I hated George Bush, but love John McCain. I voted for Obama. So far he's not half bad considering what he's inherited.
I'm against affirmative action, card check, and bailing out the greedy Wall Street banks, also against gun control (except in the case of felons or crazy suicidal people owning them.) I'm against the U.S. government bailing out G.M.

I'm for a public option in health insurance reform, pulling out of Iraq, Gay marriage (live and let live is a good philosophy for that minority.) also for a woman's choice in abortion, and lets legalize pot while we're at it.

I'm for people living their lives pursuing happiness and not infringing on others while they pursue happiness in their own ways. I doubt God exists, but hope he does, and I'm strongly against capitol punishment. If God exists he can take care of ultimate punishment in the afterlife, in this lifetime we can lock away those who murder to protect society.

Global warming, it's happening and those who don't believe the science are pawns of big oil and just plain fools.

Finally enough with the starting of endless wars. Yes Osama Bin Laden was/is a bad guy, but damn we are going to fight forever? Let's move away from all the suffering war causes and if Bin Laden shows up by all means catch the guy this time. Seems Bush never did smoke that fucker out after all. So enough collateral damage.
 

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Dys said:
The idea is that it gives more people more freedom, and while I do agree that the benifets is done abysmally, I also beleive that people earning millions of dollars a year should contribute more money to societys infrastructure(not for stupid g'ment add campagns or bullshit "we're helping" money funneling). I don't beleive that anyone should go hungry, but I do beleive that people who don't work shouldn't get so much that they aren't motivated to improve themselves.
Hmmm. This is where I guess things partially come down to terminology(and how you define things) and personal beliefs. But I don't think benefits=freedom, one could make arguments that it does but the lowerclass isn't more "free" because they get housing/health/food provided(better off(arguablly) but not more free. While at the same time the rich are told that half of your work(wealth) is going to be taken under threat of force/jail/loss of property. I just don't see how its "just" for a government to basically say for half the year you work for me.
 

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fasteddie_felson said:
I put myself down as Liberal, but you decide:
I like violent fps like Left 4 Dead, Fallout 3 (violent rpg) look forward to the new Diablo and Starcraft both. I'm against censorship but not ratings as guidelines. As an adult my entertainment is fucking mine, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, I don't want anyone telling me what I can play or which movies I can see.

I hated George Bush, but love John McCain. I voted for Obama. So far he's not half bad considering what he's inherited.
I'm against affirmative action, card check, and bailing out the greedy Wall Street banks, also against gun control (except in the case of felons or crazy suicidal people owning them.) I'm against the U.S. government bailing out G.M.

I'm for a public option in health insurance reform, pulling out of Iraq, Gay marriage (live and let live is a good philosophy for that minority.) also for a woman's choice in abortion, and lets legalize pot while we're at it.

I'm for people living their lives pursuing happiness and not infringing on others while they pursue happiness in their own ways. I doubt God exists, but hope he does, and I'm strongly against capitol punishment. If God exists he can take care of ultimate punishment in the afterlife, in this lifetime we can lock away those who murder to protect society.

Global warming, it's happening and those who don't believe the science are pawns of big oil and just plain fools.

Finally enough with the starting of endless wars. Yes Osama Bin Laden was/is a bad guy, but damn we are going to fight forever? Let's move away from all the suffering war causes and if Bin Laden shows up by all means catch the guy this time. Seems Bush never did smoke that fucker out after all. So enough collateral damage.
I would say you are a left leaning moderate
 

fasteddie_felson

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"I would say you are a left leaning moderate"

yes but that wasn't an option.or Thanks I know. Still I'm Liberal on some issues! ha.
 

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They both fucking suck.

Liberals want the state to have control over everything. I.E The government owns the cow and gives you the milk.

Conservatives want the government to control and oppress anything that messes with their retarded red neck traditional views. I.E you own the cows and give the government the milk.

I'm neither. I hate politics.
 

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Alright after reading half the posts it seems that many Escapists don't actually know what the terms Liberal or Conservative actually mean.

Some people think Liberals are Democrats which while most are this is not necessarily true. Along these lines apparently people claim Libertarians are neither which is not necessarily true either.

But more, or perhaps not, importantly there is no option to vote moderate. I find this odd because most people are moderate statistically speaking in any given random sample.
 

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I'm a liberal i.e. I'm young and have yet to have my spirit crushed by life. Well at least that's what my parents think anyway.
 

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Webster's II New Riverside Dictionary: Revised Edition-

Liberal - Favoring democratic reform and the use of governmental resources to effect social progress.

Conservative - Favoring traditional views and values, tending to oppose change.

Hrm, well the liberal definition sounds pretty big government to me since you'd actually need to have more government in order to use said resources to effect social progress. And the conservative definition, considering the United States started out with very little government involved, would mean that said individual wanted to go back to a simpler time when there was *gasp* very little government involved. Hrm... Dictionaries don't lie.

BTW I'm conservative. No not right wing -_- but conservative.

Also, wiki's stupid and if you try to use that shit for papers your professor (if they have any balls, be them male or female) will laugh in your face.
 

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sneakypenguin said:
I'm generally libertarian except I believe in an very strong military.

Republicans/ democrats all favor larger government so I dislike either party. But until we get proportional representation we are stuck(except in extreme cases) with a bi-polar system.
Republicans aren't suppose to favor larger goverment. That's against conservative principles. The last congress and administration abandoned conservative principles for the most part. Democrats promised changed, but are arguably acting worse than the past administration/congress.

The sad thing is that while the democrats seemingly don't care about what the people want, republicans will most likely fall into the same ways, sooner or later. Of course, that can be said of any individual, not just groups. Such is power...