Poll: Mass Effect vs. KotOR

[Ubermetalhed]

KotoR by a trillion miles. One of the best plots in a game ever and definitely one of the best uses of the starwars license since Starwars Jedi Knightark forces 2.

I'd kill to see KotoR 3 made. But alas they're making Knights of Warcraft instead.

 

[Wayneguard]

wow much closer than I would have thought. i voted me

 

[kabooz18]

I like ME better !!! but ME2 is a close call still it's ME2 and guys don't forget that KotoR 2 is not from the same guys KotoR is... it's technically not a Bioware game...

 

[le picklez]

I'd have to say mass effect. I don't think I've ever met a character I actually cared about in Kotor. (HK47 doesn't count because he's an assassin robot. You're always going to like assassin robots).

 

[RevRaptor]

I love both of them. It's a real shame my xbox copy of kotor2 won't play nice on my 360, backward compatible my ass. Have been meaning to get the pc versions of kotor 1 and 2. would really like to play them again.
I like mass effect despite its somewhat obvious flaws. Mass effect 2 was pretty good too although I missed being able to equip different weapons and armour.
Also how the hell did the entire universe forget about hand grenades in the time Sheppard was out.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

KOTOR was a good game and the best thing to come out of Star Wars since the original trilogy (which may be damning it with faint praise). I probably should find it more interesting than I do, but the fact is I'm just so f'in sick to death of Star Wars that the IP is working against it instead of for it. I also can't even begin to tell you how old it's getting to watch badly animated jedi bounce their lightsabers off enemy troopers and droids as though they were long swords +1. This is part of the problem with the iconic weapon of Star Wars...realistically you should be able to run around one-shotting everything with it. I want a Star Wars with fluid, action-oriented game play, like the Jedi Knight series, more than I want to queue up "Power Attacks" and watch bad canned animations loop.

So, to make a long story short, KOTOR was probably a richer and more traditional RPG, but Mass Effect was a far sexier, more propulsive, and more cinematic game. And since it doesn't suffer from the Star Wars taint, I take it 10 times out of 10.

 

[KalosCast]

1) and 2) Yes, unfinished, unimplemented data. That's the entire problem with the game - its unfinished. Instead trying to squeeze in stuff that you'd have thought they'd known they couldn't get in, they'd try to polish up the other stuff instead. All I have ever been aware of from the developers' comments on the matter was that they had a tight deadline, not that it was actually shortened in any way.

They were given 8-months to complete a game that had to be comparable in both gameplay and scope to the original KotOR game (which had a development cycle of at least three years). The fact that they were able to release a product at all deserves accolades.

Also, general consensus seems to be that there were numerous rewrites of the story because Obsidian wanted to kill off characters that Lucas Arts wanted to hold onto for inclusion in the comic books and other Old Republic stuff.

 

[Zhukov]

Mass Effect. (Both of 'em.)

The Star Wars setting has never really done it for me. At least, not since I was a kid and didn't know any better. Granted, the Mass Effect universe isn't exactly distinctive, but at least it isn't borrowed off someone else.

Besides, I prefer Mass Effect's gameplay, characters and voice acting. KOTOR did have a better plot though.

 

[Therumancer]

KOTOR was a much better game series, however the things that made it a better series of games are things that the casual market doesn't care much for, so Mass Effect is liable to lead most polls on the subject due to the massive lightening of the RPG elements.

Mass Effect was stated to be the spiritual successor of KoTOR. It's important to understand that the thing with Mass Effect is that it's their own IP. KOTOR was dependant on not one, but TWO liscences. One was of course "Star Wars", and the other was the D20 rules owned by "Wizards Of The Coast". I think people underestimate how difficult it is to come up with a set of functional RPG mechanics that work well with a computer game, the D&D/AD&D/D20 rules have the distinction of being one of the systems that does, and that made it relatively easy to make games using those mechanics... especiall seeing as WoTC's own Star Wars liscence meant that a lot of the work in statting things out was already done, and just needed to be tweaked a bit.

Also, "Old Republic Online" has doubtlessly influanced them wanting to move away from single player RPGs based on Star Wars. Competing with yourself is rarely a good thing, and you'll notice you saw something very similar happen with "Ultima Online" where it was pretty much the death knell for the development of further single player Ultima games, despite the brief attempt with "Ascension".

 

[Marowit]

Mass Effect was a much better game, but I preferred KoTOR's story and setting - Star Wars trumps most Sci-Fi worlds in my world.

I voted for ME as I haven't played KoTOR since '04 - and I don't really want to play it again as I don't want to risk ruining it for me.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

Mass Effect is better only by a little bit.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

A finished, fixed, and updated Knights of the Old Republic II could be my favorite game ever. As it stands, I prefer the first KotOR and my actual favorite game is Mass Effect 2. However, both KotOR games are outstanding (provided you can deal with the issues in the second one) and ones that I've played and replayed often.

It's strange. I hate being mages in a game, but call it the Force and give me a lightsaber and I'll happily walk the path of a Jedi Master.

couldn't agree more on any aspect, especially the mage part, i grit my teeth when i do mage runthrough's in rpg's, but in star wars sign me up to be a badass force wielder anyday.


with kotor 2 if you have all the revival mods/patches/overhauls and you have the mod where you can basically teleport to any area to get by glitches, then the game is *basically* fixed, even if the ending seems a bit rushed. so overall i think it is my favorite game over kotor 1

 

[Sovereignty]

I think this question is rooted solely in what a specific person's fan quotient of SW is.

Me personally, I got to use a lightsaber. That was pure win for me.

 

[Puzzlenaut]

Mass Effect is a travesty of a game, especially when compared to KotOR, which was a great game -- if they were switched round in terms of which order they were made, Kotor would absolutely be winning on votes, though that's not to say that it isn't better as it is.

I relaly hate mass effect >.>

 

[Wraithspine]

I prefer Mass Effect. I don't want George Lucas getting any royalties through my money! I have played both and the background to ME is much better. Not the far too overused SW material. I too hope ME continues after Shepherd's trilogy ends.

 

[Cheesus333]

Knights was probably the best Star Wars game, but it just doesn't have the same technical edge that Mass Effect does. The latter is more polished, smoother to play, and more engaging. Granted it probably wouldn't exist without KotOR, but that doesn't make it inferior. I loved Knights, but Mass Effect wins hands down for me.

 

[HalfChance]

For me at least, Both of these games fall into the "Generic Bioware" category, We have our protagonist who has to save the world/universe/small puppy/whatever but to do so he needs to gather a small group of boring, self absorbed individuals who feel it necessary to tell you there life story when ever you ask them what the time is.

Once said protagonist has gathered these individuals and equipped them with new trousers he can then embark on his/her quest. This usually entails running through linear worlds/towns/buildings and sucking up to once for your followers enough that they may give you a blow-job.

Oh and throw in a couple of moral dilemmas and a plot twist around 3/4 of the way through the game and you have every Bioware fanboi itching to hand over their money.

Back on topic though I much preferred Mass Effect to KotOR, I found the story to be (a little) less predictable and the combat and game play just felt more...Natural.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

For me at least, Both of these games fall into the "Generic Bioware" category, We have our protagonist who has to save the world/universe/small puppy/whatever but to do so he needs to gather a small group of boring, self absorbed individuals who feel it necessary to tell you there life story when ever you ask them what the time is.

Once said protagonist has gathered these individuals and equipped them with new trousers he can then embark on his/her quest. This usually entails running through linear worlds/towns/buildings and sucking up to once for your followers enough that they may give you a blow-job.

Oh and throw in a couple of moral dilemmas and a plot twist around 3/4 of the way through the game and you have every Bioware fanboi itching to hand over their money.

Back on topic though I much preferred Mass Effect to KotOR, I found the story to be (a little) less predictable and the combat and game play just felt more...Natural.

nice flame your puttin up there, too bad that exact same flame has been said and done 100x over before. and who cares if it's the same general game rundown in each of their games? does every developer not have similar habits to the games they have made before?