There are a lot of things at my school I disagree with. Thing is... it's pretty expensive to attend, but I have a scholarship. If I get expelled (and it's easier to do so than at most schools) it's instant 'pay-back-the-money-you-saved'. It's a pretty scary thought, but I'm generally a good pupil (hey, listen to me...).
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You spend time analyzing and writing poetry because it gives you a different way of thinking things through. Are you going to become a poet? No, probably not. Is being able to write poetry a necessary skill in life? Only to a narrow amount of people. Are you going to have to be able to infer information that isn't explicitly given to you? Yeah, you will. Is this type of thinking valued out in the real world, and can it help you get a good job? Absolutely. Your brain has not finished growing and maturing yet. (I assume you're not yet to your mid-20s) Every new skill you learn, gives you different tools to attack problems that will come at you in real life.Guitarmasterx7 said:
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There is a lot of bitching going on here about the uselessness of certain classes. And to a certain extent I understand where it's coming from. When I was in high school, I wondered the same thing about any number of things I was learning. It really wasn't until I was about 3 years into college, that I could look back and see that it wasn't really WHAT I was learning that was important or made me who I was. It was the fact that I learned HOW to attack problems in different ways. People may not see the point of it now, but you will eventually.
Reading these i've realized my school ain't that bad, very rarely are the teachers bias'd the only kids in my school think that are the ones who think they know everything and that even if they fail exams school will be easy, people who go out there own way to get on someones nerves. If I went to a school without that who knows how much more I could be achieving.
We had a question ''What is health?''. People said ''Health is when you love somebody and can live your life with all rights other people have. Health is when you brush your teeth every day and have a chocolate smile for lunch.'' Teacher agreed. I said something like ''Health is a state of body when every organ functions in a way it's supposed to be. When your body doesn't hurt without confrontation. No one is 100 % healthy so wee should take care of ourselves without getting obsessed with it so we could live our lives up to our full potential and still have time to have fun. e.t.c.'' Teacher said that I'm some kind of retard.
That happens every day. She just reads some cheesy phrases from book out loud and any one who doesn't repeat it is a moron.
Oh and history teacher makes religious comments about history like they are some kind of facts. ''The history starts from the time the God made earth. e.t.c.''
That happens every day. She just reads some cheesy phrases from book out loud and any one who doesn't repeat it is a moron.
Oh and history teacher makes religious comments about history like they are some kind of facts. ''The history starts from the time the God made earth. e.t.c.''
i've had the most insane teachers through my school time
in second grade we were told to write what we wanted to be when we grew up(it's 10 years later now and i still don't know guess how i fely back then) but in the end i gave up and as a joke wrote about how i wanted to be a batman like spy. for some reason mine was aparently the best in the class and my teacher ask if she can read it aloud to my classmates. me allready being the weird kid nobody likes tells her "no you can't" and takes my copy with me home. however she has taken a copy and the next day she starts reading it for me giveing my class mates stuff to make fun of me with for weeks and when i complain she tells me to "grow up".
in 6th grade we get an english teacher who is aparently badly colour blind. in the books we are given quite alot of times we get senteces or small stories in small coloured boxes scatered acrose the page. he then goes on to ask me if i'll read aloud the thing in the red box. my reply " there is no red box". "then the redish box". allright theres a brown that looks kinda red so i start to read." no not that one you idiot" i then get a detention for talking back and wasteing time when i start to complain that if he can't see the actual colours he maybe shouldn't use them to tell us what he wants us to read.
8th grade in physchis we are put in groups of 4-5. i get in group with the idiots. allright i'll be fair they'll most defiently become great automechanics and what not but they have no idea whats going on in this class. me however being a minor genious on the subject(at least enough to understand what we are suposed to do from reading the paper that says it without asking the teacher) decide that the best way to utlise haveing them around is to have them do exactly what to do(this they can do).so me telling them step by step hat they should do main reason being that the one time i decided to do it myself they goofed around actually managing to set 1 of my other classmates on fire we get through the year. in that group i get the lowest grades for the year for "not being activly part of the problem solving". excuse me? without me in the group the most productive the group would have done all year is PUTTING A STUDENT ON FIRE. i mean what the hell?
i also got detention because once we were given a book to discus that i had read multiple times allready and therefor capable to discuss allready, and because of that i decided to use the classes provided to read the book to read my own book.
also got told i was trying to make myself look superior because i asked if it wasn't beneficial to turn the danish subtitels of in an english movie...that we were watching as part of our english class
in second grade we were told to write what we wanted to be when we grew up(it's 10 years later now and i still don't know guess how i fely back then) but in the end i gave up and as a joke wrote about how i wanted to be a batman like spy. for some reason mine was aparently the best in the class and my teacher ask if she can read it aloud to my classmates. me allready being the weird kid nobody likes tells her "no you can't" and takes my copy with me home. however she has taken a copy and the next day she starts reading it for me giveing my class mates stuff to make fun of me with for weeks and when i complain she tells me to "grow up".
in 6th grade we get an english teacher who is aparently badly colour blind. in the books we are given quite alot of times we get senteces or small stories in small coloured boxes scatered acrose the page. he then goes on to ask me if i'll read aloud the thing in the red box. my reply " there is no red box". "then the redish box". allright theres a brown that looks kinda red so i start to read." no not that one you idiot" i then get a detention for talking back and wasteing time when i start to complain that if he can't see the actual colours he maybe shouldn't use them to tell us what he wants us to read.
8th grade in physchis we are put in groups of 4-5. i get in group with the idiots. allright i'll be fair they'll most defiently become great automechanics and what not but they have no idea whats going on in this class. me however being a minor genious on the subject(at least enough to understand what we are suposed to do from reading the paper that says it without asking the teacher) decide that the best way to utlise haveing them around is to have them do exactly what to do(this they can do).so me telling them step by step hat they should do main reason being that the one time i decided to do it myself they goofed around actually managing to set 1 of my other classmates on fire we get through the year. in that group i get the lowest grades for the year for "not being activly part of the problem solving". excuse me? without me in the group the most productive the group would have done all year is PUTTING A STUDENT ON FIRE. i mean what the hell?
i also got detention because once we were given a book to discus that i had read multiple times allready and therefor capable to discuss allready, and because of that i decided to use the classes provided to read the book to read my own book.
also got told i was trying to make myself look superior because i asked if it wasn't beneficial to turn the danish subtitels of in an english movie...that we were watching as part of our english class
This goes for a lot of stuff taught in school. Anything above the basics (end of primary school learning) isn't really necessary to get along in life. Things like how catalysts work and the symbolism of 'the beastie' in Lord Of The Flies[footnote]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies[/footnote] is really only learned out of personal interest and only taught to make people seem more skilled, regardless of the future career in question.WhiteTiger225 said:
OP: Whilst I never had the same problems as you had as a kid (I was a good kid and rarely broke rules -- my main problem was actually bullying), I know the exact same thing. A mate of mine in the mock exams had to re-sit three of his exams because he questioned the questions asked in the exam.
The main thing that pissed me off at school was the fact that several students decided to try and bring in a rule that boys should not have long hair. What side I was on can be shown with the picture of me on my profile. What especially pissed me off about this was that the students who came up with it did it just to piss me off, yet my tutor group, the school council and even the deputy head and head teacher took it seriously. Thankfully it wasn't added to the rules otherwise I would've just called the school sexist and tell them to shove that rule up their ass.
Oh yeah, my school also had a barbed wire fence installed around it. Because we really needed to feel more like a prison didn't we?
Thankfully I'm in College now, which is very different than school, for the better.
Man, so many chances to quote but too little incentive to do so!
Anyhow, I guess I could give an example of me doing something similar to not doing the assignment the way it was meant to, and instead questioned the validity (for lack of a better word) of the question:
The moral of the story? My school's most stuck-up teacher was much more tolerant than, what seems to be, most of your teachers combined. Might have done something with me being almost a straight-A student and me NOT mindlessly bitching for no reason.
Also, I treated the whole field of ideologies as a long play-time during class since we had a bunch of role-play to show our ideology-savvyness in a "real" situation. Did the assignments and all that, but still had as much fun as I could muster by role-playing more than necessary and starting as many debates that were somewhat over my opponents head at all times.
Fun times, all things considered.
Also, two questions:
How many have actually gone to the principal or something ever higher up with complaints about how their teacher acts instead of just pouting?
and
How come that everyone is so immensely sure about how "real life" is like even though they're still in school?
Anyhow, I guess I could give an example of me doing something similar to not doing the assignment the way it was meant to, and instead questioned the validity (for lack of a better word) of the question:
As a part of our end-test on the field of ideologies (a field I though was immensely unuseful and boring) in high-school, a question asked you to list the reasons that you'd think that someone conservative had written a piece of text.
After reading it 3 or 4 times, I couldn't find a speck of indication of it being the work of a conservative. So after sitting around doing practically nothing for fifteen minutes (the question was the last and most in-depth one of the entire test, and I had done the rest of it pretty quickly), I pretty much thought "fuck it" and decided to instead write about why I thought that the assignment was flawed in the way that the text at hand wasn't conservative, but instead socialistic. After about 20 minutes, I had made quite a collection of what I thought was pretty valid reasons, all made in the style that I would have done the actual assignment, just changing the topic somewhat.
I then promptly turned it in and went to my home, as it was the last lesson of the day.
The next week, before he had fully read through the entire classes assignment properly, he asked to speak with me shortly about said assignment. I was kind of excited about what he would say, and was somewhat prepared for him to say that I would have to do it again. Instead, he just stated that I hadn't really done what was asked of me, to which I replied that if I would have done it as I was told, it would boil down to "I don't see it", which would have been even worse. He agreed, but still stressed that I should avoid doing so in the future and just left it at that.
When we finally got it back, I was rather taken aback by seeing that I had got the highest grade possible, despite technically failing the assignment.
After reading it 3 or 4 times, I couldn't find a speck of indication of it being the work of a conservative. So after sitting around doing practically nothing for fifteen minutes (the question was the last and most in-depth one of the entire test, and I had done the rest of it pretty quickly), I pretty much thought "fuck it" and decided to instead write about why I thought that the assignment was flawed in the way that the text at hand wasn't conservative, but instead socialistic. After about 20 minutes, I had made quite a collection of what I thought was pretty valid reasons, all made in the style that I would have done the actual assignment, just changing the topic somewhat.
I then promptly turned it in and went to my home, as it was the last lesson of the day.
The next week, before he had fully read through the entire classes assignment properly, he asked to speak with me shortly about said assignment. I was kind of excited about what he would say, and was somewhat prepared for him to say that I would have to do it again. Instead, he just stated that I hadn't really done what was asked of me, to which I replied that if I would have done it as I was told, it would boil down to "I don't see it", which would have been even worse. He agreed, but still stressed that I should avoid doing so in the future and just left it at that.
When we finally got it back, I was rather taken aback by seeing that I had got the highest grade possible, despite technically failing the assignment.
The moral of the story? My school's most stuck-up teacher was much more tolerant than, what seems to be, most of your teachers combined. Might have done something with me being almost a straight-A student and me NOT mindlessly bitching for no reason.
Also, I treated the whole field of ideologies as a long play-time during class since we had a bunch of role-play to show our ideology-savvyness in a "real" situation. Did the assignments and all that, but still had as much fun as I could muster by role-playing more than necessary and starting as many debates that were somewhat over my opponents head at all times.
Fun times, all things considered.
Also, two questions:
How many have actually gone to the principal or something ever higher up with complaints about how their teacher acts instead of just pouting?
and
How come that everyone is so immensely sure about how "real life" is like even though they're still in school?
Public schooling is simply government mandated babysitting. Anyone who believes that they, as sub 18 year olds, have basic human rights or that anyone cares about anything they have to say (unless it pertains to where some celebrity or politician touched them) is sorely disillusioned. Very sorely.
My only suggestion for the little pre-humies who still dwell in the school system:
Shut up
Make marks
Graduate
Go on to do something more important
because nothing that happened to me in highschool has even the smallest iota of relevance to what I am doing today.
My only suggestion for the little pre-humies who still dwell in the school system:
Shut up
Make marks
Graduate
Go on to do something more important
because nothing that happened to me in highschool has even the smallest iota of relevance to what I am doing today.
Just a guess, but I'm thinking it's because the American school system isn't designed to make you successful, it's designed to turn you into mindless drones that accept whatever BS the media feeds you. Just a guess.
Two years ago (in 8th grade) I was in advanced math but went to normal math cause it was harder than I could handle. Our 8th grade math teacher treated us like.. more than retarded kids. I mean..she made up a DANCE to teach us things to plot lines on graphs. It was kind of a you-had-to-be-there thing. But other than that all my teachers have been nice to me. Although some of them don't teach well.
A few of my teachers who were the coolest would get brought off topic by the idiots in our class. MY spanish teacher just today gave us a pop quiz on stuff we learned yesterday that a 4th grader could do. Everyone whined about it, and one of my friends and I almost flipped shit on them.
My bio teacehr last year would tell us big stories, so people(including myself) would ask complicated questions to quicken the time til the bell rung.
But really my school isn't that bad. then again I am a pretty good student.
A few of my teachers who were the coolest would get brought off topic by the idiots in our class. MY spanish teacher just today gave us a pop quiz on stuff we learned yesterday that a 4th grader could do. Everyone whined about it, and one of my friends and I almost flipped shit on them.
My bio teacehr last year would tell us big stories, so people(including myself) would ask complicated questions to quicken the time til the bell rung.
But really my school isn't that bad. then again I am a pretty good student.
Alright is that in Celsius or Fahrenheit, because I can't see that being so horrible as my school didn't get canceled until -40 C, and we still went outside until -20 C. If it sounds like complaining it really isn't just letting you know that -4 isn't all that bad.T-Bone24 said:
On topic with my high school experience [I'm first year college now] was one of learning, and different styles of teaching. Everything I learned, though I didn't think so at the time, can and will be applied, though not in the ways you expect. Critical thinking, understanding advanced problems, they all are used in the real world, as well as sit down and shut up. I wouldn't be able to tell my boss to shut up no matter what I thought of him, so really school does prepare you.
Reminds me of my 8th grade social studies teacher. Or at least the "treating us like retards" part.Craig FTW said:
"Do you know what state 'NY' is?"
I live in Nothern Canada So I have seen temps down to -60 C without the wind chill so yes I have seen many days like that. In addition the school division I was part of didn't take wind chill into effect, which can vary the temperature another 10 degrees so we could be at school at -45 C with the wind chill because it was only -35 without wind, but I'm getting a little off topic now so I'll finish up with thatT-Bone24 said:
Personally, I'd say you're taking school much too seriously. Almost every phase of the educational system is filled with arbitrary toil and the illusion of intellectual growth, and overall really has almost nothing to do with your mental capacity as a human being. So really, it shouldn't matter that much to you.
we spent 2 hours a day doing cursive, 1 and a half on religion, and the rest on "Science", however well it can be taught by a teacher with a one year degree, and math which screwed me up for the rest of my life. Catholic School for you. I now cannot read or write cursive, am fucked up in math and science because of incompetent teachers, and have a picture of the crazy lady from jesus camp that I throw darts at. Thanks sister Kathleen, for fucking me up academically, and emotionally scarring my friends.