Poll: No Reality In This Classroom!

[TotallyFake]

I fully agree. I'm currently in grade ten, my second out of four years of Highschool, and I've had many such conflicts in the past. Sadly I'm terrible with examples... so I'll use a minor one from today.

I was in math class, and our teacher had just assigned our homework. She gave us the last 20 minutes of class to work on it. Me, being the kind of person I am decided I'd rather talk to my friends who were sitting beside me, and do my homework at home. Apperently I'm crazy. My teacher came over to my desk and told me to do my work in class, "but it's homework isn't it" I said to her. She responded with a "No, it's classwork". At this time I looked behind her to see what was written on the board: Homeworkinsert page and questions here). I laughed and pointed it out, I also said that it's my responsibility to get it done and that I would do it tonight. She completely ignored that and asked if I would rather she continue teaching, to go on to the next lesson. I told her nor because it would e counter-productive but that wouldn't be what our homework was about and thus confusing. She said"Exactley". Now the problem here is that she insisted that me sitting here and saving my homework for home was counter-productive aswell. As if it were somehow undoing any progress I'd made. Obviously this is completely absurd. Because of little things like this, I often get detentions, I've been near suspensions may times and likely expulsion.

The teachers don't seem to understand logic, it truelly bothers me.

Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but I hate you. I hate you. I hate your attitude, I hate your post, and if this is representative, I hate your life and I hate everything you stand for.

The teacher gave you an assignment. A perfectly reasonable one: Do your homework in class. This kind of thing happens all the time, maybe you got through the work faster than expected, maybe the class understood the material better than most, maybe she just planned badly. So she sets you something useful to do with your time (Yes, homework is useful) rather than just wasting the rest of the lesson and you decide to be horrendously arrogant and up yourself and argue with her. For. No. Reason.

This isn't "logic" it's belligerence. You weren't given a detention for contradicting her, you were given detention for being a dick.

I'm glad you hate me. I'll take it as a complement to my understanding of the world.

My problem is not that she gave us homework. It's she blatently ignored everything I said. The she worded it, she just didn't listen whatsoever. If she had provided ANY sort of arguement that made sense, I would have been fine with it. Instead she just pulled a ***** move, and said...no, do it. There was no reason for this, I was disturbing nobody, not causing any problems...nothing.

She didn't need to give a reason. You were disrupting the class for no good reason. Arguing just prolongs the disruption. And yes, refusing to do work disrupts the class. She has to take time to deal with you rather than helping others, you're distracting your neighbours etc.

You were entirely in the wrong. She set work, you refused to do it on a fantastically trivial reason.

 

[EchetusXe]

Your school is the most fucked up institution I have ever heard of.

Closest we got to anything like that was when a new ego-maniacal headteacher insisted that students stand up when she walked into the room. Hitler much?

Anyway, she soon got tired of that after realizing it was more trouble than it was worth.

I remember one time she walked into the room after giving up on this policy. My friend rushed to his feet as a joke (the other 29 of us remained seated) and got told to sit down again. He completely owned the headteacher with that one.

 

[JenXXXJen]

Nah, my school's all "Weeee, be an individual!" and hippyish.

Bad luck on your mean schools

 

[WhiteTiger225]

http://archives.math.utk.edu/ICTCM/EP-8/C88/pdf/paper.pdf

Calculus is great... until you realize it won't help you with your main job you will have in life no matter your education level..

"May I help you sir?"
"Do you want fries with that?"
"You can find them in aisle 3 next to the foot powder"

Now THAT is useful to teach in school.

 

[WhiteTiger225]

Nah, my school's all "Weeee, be an individual!" and hippyish.

Bad luck on your mean schools

You are an individual. Just like everybody else.

 

[mykalwane]

Well stupidity does occur when you have people only memorizing answers instead of teaching them anything. Someone need to explain how the two trains question can be worked out rather then C.

 

[Gebi10000]

compaird to what i've read here my school seems pretty tame. theres just this one really assholisch teatcher, who gave me detention, because i didn't have sissors with me(in 9th grade=16years i mean wtf?).the baverian school system may be a pile of shit(to european standards), but at least It doesn't promote punishment.

 

[Zenn3k]

Two words: General Education. Honestly, in college, GE is a joke. They're forcing us to take classes in subjects we can already get by on, which is a waste of our time and money, when we could be taking the subjects we need for our major. If high school doesn't give us enough general knowledge to get by in the areas we don't specialize in, the school system has failed.

Wait, but it kind of does fail... America's school system, at least. Whatever. Point is, yeah, school is screwed up. The entire system has to be demolished and completely redesigned from the ground up. Unfortunately, that probably wouldn't affect anything anyway until a similar thing happens to our country...

This is exactly why I've gone to College twice, and left it two times without finishing.

I don't need an ENGLISH class requiring papers to be 10 paragraphs, and 5 pages, etc when I went to the school for computer programming.

Both times I got so worn out and tired by the Gen Ed classes that by the time the stuff I wanted to do came around, I just didn't care anymore, I wanted to NOT be going to school by then.

I can't stand school. It feels like a waste of my time. If I want to learn how to do something, I go online and research it. I don't need to sit in a boring, poorly lit classroom, with a bunch of morons, talking about things that do not matter.

 

[Zenn3k]

I fully agree. I'm currently in grade ten, my second out of four years of Highschool, and I've had many such conflicts in the past. Sadly I'm terrible with examples... so I'll use a minor one from today.

I was in math class, and our teacher had just assigned our homework. She gave us the last 20 minutes of class to work on it. Me, being the kind of person I am decided I'd rather talk to my friends who were sitting beside me, and do my homework at home. Apperently I'm crazy. My teacher came over to my desk and told me to do my work in class, "but it's homework isn't it" I said to her. She responded with a "No, it's classwork". At this time I looked behind her to see what was written on the board: Homeworkinsert page and questions here). I laughed and pointed it out, I also said that it's my responsibility to get it done and that I would do it tonight. She completely ignored that and asked if I would rather she continue teaching, to go on to the next lesson. I told her nor because it would e counter-productive but that wouldn't be what our homework was about and thus confusing. She said"Exactley". Now the problem here is that she insisted that me sitting here and saving my homework for home was counter-productive aswell. As if it were somehow undoing any progress I'd made. Obviously this is completely absurd. Because of little things like this, I often get detentions, I've been near suspensions may times and likely expulsion.

The teachers don't seem to understand logic, it truelly bothers me.

Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but I hate you. I hate you. I hate your attitude, I hate your post, and if this is representative, I hate your life and I hate everything you stand for.

The teacher gave you an assignment. A perfectly reasonable one: Do your homework in class. This kind of thing happens all the time, maybe you got through the work faster than expected, maybe the class understood the material better than most, maybe she just planned badly. So she sets you something useful to do with your time (Yes, homework is useful) rather than just wasting the rest of the lesson and you decide to be horrendously arrogant and up yourself and argue with her. For. No. Reason.

This isn't "logic" it's belligerence. You weren't given a detention for contradicting her, you were given detention for being a dick.

I'm glad you hate me. I'll take it as a complement to my understanding of the world.

My problem is not that she gave us homework. It's she blatently ignored everything I said. The she worded it, she just didn't listen whatsoever. If she had provided ANY sort of arguement that made sense, I would have been fine with it. Instead she just pulled a ***** move, and said...no, do it. There was no reason for this, I was disturbing nobody, not causing any problems...nothing.

She didn't need to give a reason. You were disrupting the class for no good reason. Arguing just prolongs the disruption. And yes, refusing to do work disrupts the class. She has to take time to deal with you rather than helping others, you're distracting your neighbours etc.

You were entirely in the wrong. She set work, you refused to do it on a fantastically trivial reason.

I would've put my head down and gone to sleep.

 

[CIA]

How many of you are currently in school or are recent graduates? More than a few, I'd suppose. Then you may know what I'm talking about when I ask if you've had problems with the reality in school.

Do you know what I'm talking about? A student getting a week of detentions for writing an essay about the essay question not having depth. Another student getting suspended for yelling at a teacher because he wouldn't break up a fight. I got suspended (and nearly expelled) because I said, "Right, because there's no place for the real world here."

This shouldn't happen. It does not create a safe environment for learning; in fact, it doesn't create a learning environment at all. I never felt safe at school because I wasn't sure what to expect from day to day, and I suffered intensely for it.

In school, you're told to sit down, shut up, and do what you're told. In the real world, people who do that rarely do more than scrape by. Why is it that school is penalizing us for wanting to succeed?

And how many of you have encountered this problem? If you wouldn't mind sharing your stories, please do so. If nothing else, it helps to vent.

Apologies Abound

It was actually five different essays on why five different questions lacked depth.

That was nothing compared to my 9th grade teacher, however. She said that rocks were alive, the earth was the center of the universe, and was surprised to learn that dihydrogen monoxide killes large numbers of people each year.

I can't believe I missed this first time around. That makes me sad.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Can I just point out that "organic" food is a scam. Also non-organic doesn't mean GM

http://www.cracked.com/article_17084_5-ways-people-are-trying-save-world-that-dont-work.html

Please read the first section.

EDIT: Before you bring it up (which I'm guessing you will), I don't get my information from comedy sites. My friends family are farmers and they know that it makes no difference.

Guess you don't use the biointensive method of farming, huh?

Thing is, though, those pesticides and GM strains don't make a difference, either.
You're better off just growing the damn stuff with as little tampering as possible, aside from weeding and all that basic stuff.

I could care less about the planet, I care more about me, which is why I go out of my way to make sure I never eat GM food.
I enjoy not having cancer.

 

[T-Bone24]

In Primary School, (Which is age 4/5-11/12 for all you non-scots) we weren't allowed inside the school building during break or lunchtime. It's Scotland, in the winter, -4 degrees and snowing, and we aren't allowed to fecking go inside? One day I had had enough and stayed in the classroom during break, got a right bollocking.

Now, in Secondary School, every year, we have to right down all the things we did well and are forced to right a (rather long) paragraph on all the progress we made doing extra-curricular activities. I don't do any extra-curricular activities, and am punished for not writing the full paragraph. None of the clubs are particularly exciting. Allotment club!? No thank you.

 

[ICantBelieveItGoesBoom]

Can I just point out that "organic" food is a scam. Also non-organic doesn't mean GM

http://www.cracked.com/article_17084_5-ways-people-are-trying-save-world-that-dont-work.html

Please read the first section.

EDIT: Before you bring it up (which I'm guessing you will), I don't get my information from comedy sites. My friends family are farmers and they know that it makes no difference.

Guess you don't use the biointensive method of farming, huh?

Thing is, though, those pesticides and GM strains don't make a difference, either.
You're better off just growing the damn stuff with as little tampering as possible, aside from weeding and all that basic stuff.

I could care less about the planet, I care more about me, which is why I go out of my way to make sure I never eat GM food.
I enjoy not having cancer.

Did you actually read anything that I or that article said?

The whole point is that non-organic stuff DOESN'T cause any health concern and, in fact organic crops are more likely to cause health problems.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Did you actually read anything that I or that article said?

The whole point is that non-organic stuff DOESN'T cause any health concern and, in fact organic crops are more likely to cause health problems.

Yeah... I'll be sure to take this comedy news website word for word as a valid source of information.

You're saying organic vegetables, the things we've lived on for thousands of years, are more likely to kill us than some shitty chemical we've started covering them in?

Pardon me, that just sounds the tiniest bit insane.

 

[similar.squirrel]

Only major problem I have with school is with the uniform. No matter how they try to explain it away, it will always mean the same thing: You want to seem British, and the local Bishop has you under his thumb.

 

[ICantBelieveItGoesBoom]

Did you actually read anything that I or that article said?

The whole point is that non-organic stuff DOESN'T cause any health concern and, in fact organic crops are more likely to cause health problems.

Yeah... I'll be sure to take this comedy news website word for word as a valid source of information.

You're saying organic vegetables, the things we've lived on for thousands of years, are more likely to kill us than some shitty chemical we've started covering them in?

Pardon me, that just sounds the tiniest bit insane.

Have you noticed that there used to be a lot less people in the world?

And "more likely" doesn't mean "OMFG ITS GUNA KEEL U!" just that there are actually health concerns with organically grown foods.

Also can we switch this to PMs? I hate to derail a thread too much.

 

[Internet Kraken]

My problem is when we have to take classes that will NOT help us in the future.

This is one of the biggest problem with the American education system. Students that can not get out of the mentality that what they are learning will not help them in the future.

Hmmhmm, yes indeed, what riffraff. *turns nose up* Why can't these hooligans just grow up and become scientist engineers who specialize in writing essays about historical figures like the rest of us, so that they can be sophisticated enough to write poetry on a day to day basis, because that's so practical. Hmmph! Next they'll be saying that it doesn't require 12 years of History classes to be a construction worker or an auto mechanic. What unreasonable rapscallions.

People like you are what make the American education system inefficient. Does the information taught to you in high school have its benefits? sure. I would even go as far as to say that at some point in your life you will almost definitely use some of it. However, the mandatory criteria is, for the most part, pointless. Why is it that I have to spend 3 months in English class every year analyzing and writing fucking poetry? Unless I want to be a poet, I could probably accomplish more by spending that time with my thumb up my ass. This applies to most of the main subjects. When it all comes down to it, a very small percentage goes on to become historians/politicians, scientists, mathematicians, or authors, and possibly other than very few isolated individuals, noone is all four. In fact I would say the only part of my high school education I will likely use are my elective classes. There is no reason why high school should take four years, and I've yet to find a situation, even in my imagination, where reading "to kill a mockingbird" or Learning about the american revolution for a third time will prove useful.

If noone questions or complains about a faulty system, nothing will change.

Don't know where you got the idea that I was trying to be smug, but if that's the way my post sounded then I apologize.

However, I stand by what I said. Most people don't know what they want to do with their life when they are still in school. By exposing them to many different subjects in school they are more likely to find one that they like and may choose to have a career in. Plus even if you already do know what you want to do with your life, your dreams might not become reality. So it's always good to have some general knowledge to fall back on.

Subjects you find to be pointless are ones that other people may enjoy. The same applies to subjects that you enjoy.