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Dogstile

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TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
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TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
Well lets see, I sit in a desk for 2 hours and get lectured, then I move to a DIFFERENT desk and get lectured again. That certainly sounds like the real world to me.

Although I have to say highschool is alot more realistic. Its grade school that used to drill holes in my fucking skull. Walk in a straight line. Give me 10 real life scenarios where that would apply, and I will sacrifice my left nut
Get ready to give me your left nut.




Goose walking in a tv show

Goose walking in Soviet Russia

Goose walking in Russia

Goose walking in China

Goose walking in Japan

Goose walking in a 3rd world country

when a policeman tells you to walk in a straight line

marching in the army

those tiny hallways where one line of people walk along a straight narrow path going one way, and a straight narrow path leads back to where you just were

Walking in a prison line, in prison.
Close, but I dont think posting 'In a third world country" 3 times will cut it. 2nd, Nazi Germany is done, not comming back(hopefully) so I wouldnt be able to use it there. 3rd, Grade school doesnt count cause I was looking for real life scenarios where I could apply my knolledge, not where I learned it.

Close, but I get to keep 1/2 my potential children. For now.
what about now (edited the quote. was easier)
 

LooK iTz Jinjo

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I think schools try to be as unrealistic as possible. I go to a school which only has students from years 10-12, so you would think that they would treat us more like adults and shot us some respect. And you'd be wrong. We had a new principle come midway through last year, his first act? Ban iPods on school grounds. Apparently these are anti-social and cause students to become introverted as well as being a distraction in class - say what you like about the distraction in class but when I'm in the Library during a free I think I have the right to listen to my fucking iPod. Now as is the case now days Phones are tolerated during recess and lunch, and most teachers don't care about them being used in class as long as you are discrete, I have an iPhone. Apparently this conflicts with the rules regarding iPods. I've had my phone confiscated during lunch because I left the headphones plugged in when I took it out of my pocket and some idiot teacher goes "I'm bored let's take this kids iPod. Oh it's a phone he says, fuck him I'll take it anyway."

Um don't know about you but I'm pretty sure that in the real world most people have iPods in 90% of waking time and people email the person on the other side of the room because they can't be fucked getting up and telling them whatever the fuck it was that they wanted to tell them.

Oh and one last thing. When in life am I EVER going to need to be able to find the derivative of a complex equation. I mean COME THE FUCK ON! SERIOUSLY?!

The South Australian school system is shit. I know my mum's a teacher and my dad works for the fucking education department, so I've heard 18 years of complaints about it. It's fucked.
 

Reklore

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I live in New Zealand and we have nothing as bad with the school system as you guys do. I Feel sad for ya, I hate the sound of you school.
 

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The_Logician19 said:
Do you know what I'm talking about? A student getting a week of detentions for writing an essay about the essay question not having depth. Another student getting suspended for yelling at a teacher because he wouldn't break up a fight. I got suspended (and nearly expelled) because I said, "Right, because there's no place for the real world here."

This shouldn't happen. It does not create a safe environment for learning; in fact, it doesn't create a learning environment at all. I never felt safe at school because I wasn't sure what to expect from day to day, and I suffered intensely for it.
When I was in High School I ended up in the principals office numerous times. However, I never got so much as a detention. My record from my old high school is 100% clean and here's why. I did take the time to stand up to my teachers/administrators and protest something that I found wrong, but I did it the proper way. Yelling at your teacher for not breaking up a fight, belittling the educational system without providing logical ways of improving it, and in general, being a smartass are not the proper ways to go about voicing your opinion. If you choose to voice them this way you should be anticipating some type of punishment.

The most important thing you can do to voice your thoughts the proper way is to remember who you are talking to. Your teachers and administrators, whether you like it or not, are your superiors and they demand you treat them that way. So when your teacher has said something you find wrong or did not do something you believed they should, then present the problem to them after class. The last thing your teacher wants is to be belittled in front of his students. Also, addressing him/her after class shows to them that you actually care about the issue. If it is something asinine like a comment such as, "Right, because there's no place for the real world here," just don't say it or at least say it in a politer tone that shows you are addressing the other person with some amount of respect. If you have an issue with a particular essay question on a test, ask your teacher what exactly they are asking. If there really is no depth to the question, then it was likely intended to be that way. You could also answer the question to the best of your ability and approach the teacher after class about the depth of the question and how you chose to handle it.

Oh, and while it might not seem like it now, this parallels real life quite well. If you don't address your superiors(boss, drill instructor, etc.) with the respect they deserve(and the doesn't mean by how much you THINK they deserve) you'll do even worse than the guy who sat there and did nothing.

p.s. Sorry about this ending up looking like a rant. I truly didn't intend it to end up that way.
 

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Onmi said:
My problem is when we have to take classes that will NOT help us in the future.
This is one of the biggest problem with the American education system. Students that can not get out of the mentality that what they are learning will not help them in the future.
Hmmhmm, yes indeed, what riffraff. *turns nose up* Why can't these hooligans just grow up and become scientist engineers who specialize in writing essays about historical figures like the rest of us, so that they can be sophisticated enough to write poetry on a day to day basis, because that's so practical. Hmmph! Next they'll be saying that it doesn't require 12 years of History classes to be a construction worker or an auto mechanic. What unreasonable rapscallions.

People like you are what make the American education system inefficient. Does the information taught to you in high school have its benefits? sure. I would even go as far as to say that at some point in your life you will almost definitely use some of it. However, the mandatory criteria is, for the most part, pointless. Why is it that I have to spend 3 months in English class every year analyzing and writing fucking poetry? Unless I want to be a poet, I could probably accomplish more by spending that time with my thumb up my ass. This applies to most of the main subjects. When it all comes down to it, a very small percentage goes on to become historians/politicians, scientists, mathematicians, or authors, and possibly other than very few isolated individuals, noone is all four. In fact I would say the only part of my high school education I will likely use are my elective classes. There is no reason why high school should take four years, and I've yet to find a situation, even in my imagination, where reading "to kill a mockingbird" or Learning about the american revolution for a third time will prove useful.

If noone questions or complains about a faulty system, nothing will change.
 

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If I could go back in time and confront my Grade 6 teacher, I'd tell her she's a ***** and eat veal sandwiches, covered with cheese in her face and say the veal wasn't organic.

She has made me hate enviromentalists. It may be unfair but... she got me suspended because I took a plane to London. (Also I told her to fuck off when she said I'd get detention for that trip, but.... c'mon....)
That reminds me of the middle school "Earth Sciences" teacher I had. One of the activities she had us do (when we probably had nothing better to do) involved using little boards ('turtles') to get across a small outdoor basketball court ('the ocean') without touching it. At the end of it, I dropped one of the boards back onto the court and said "Sacrifice to the sea gods!"

She tried to hold me after class for this reason: "What if that was a real turtle?"

I exclaimed that it wasn't a real turtle and walked away.
 

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Unfortunatley, sometimes it really is a case of fuck you, that's why. The people that make these decisions sometimes don't think logically, or think of what is best for everybody....or they do think they are doing whats best, and totally screwing up at it.

For the most part, It's whatever makes the people in charge happy. They let the power go to their head. The argument "That's the way it is here" doesn't stand up in court. So I say sue them.
 
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Booze Zombie said:
Enjoy your bowel cancer, if you plan on eating meat and go out of your way to make sure it has GM in it...
Can I just point out that "organic" food is a scam. Also non-organic doesn't mean GM

http://www.cracked.com/article_17084_5-ways-people-are-trying-save-world-that-dont-work.html

Please read the first section.

EDIT: Before you bring it up (which I'm guessing you will), I don't get my information from comedy sites. My friends family are farmers and they know that it makes no difference.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
It's not an American problem either. I have no idea what this guy is talking about.
I suppose that guy has been watching too many zeitgeist films recently.
 

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Onmi said:
My problem is when we have to take classes that will NOT help us in the future.
I agree with you completely.
Internet Kraken said:
This is one of the biggest problem with the American education system. Students that can not get out of the mentality that what they are learning will not help them in the future.
I don't know much about your education system, but back in my old school up until year 9, it was mandatory for all students to have 1 lesson of dance a week. I can't see how that would be useful for the majority who didn't want to carry it on. I feel they should have at least given us the choice.
 

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North American education systems are no longer about education; they are about control. They want to "teach" you to be subservient and to not ask questions. They only "teach" their version of things, often warped and lacking facts. I'm sure you've noticed this in, say, history class. Just BS. The education system needs a complete overhaul.
 

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Sightless Wisdom said:
I fully agree. I'm currently in grade ten, my second out of four years of Highschool, and I've had many such conflicts in the past. Sadly I'm terrible with examples... so I'll use a minor one from today.

I was in math class, and our teacher had just assigned our homework. She gave us the last 20 minutes of class to work on it. Me, being the kind of person I am decided I'd rather talk to my friends who were sitting beside me, and do my homework at home. Apperently I'm crazy. My teacher came over to my desk and told me to do my work in class, "but it's homework isn't it" I said to her. She responded with a "No, it's classwork". At this time I looked behind her to see what was written on the board: Homework:(insert page and questions here). I laughed and pointed it out, I also said that it's my responsibility to get it done and that I would do it tonight. She completely ignored that and asked if I would rather she continue teaching, to go on to the next lesson. I told her nor because it would e counter-productive but that wouldn't be what our homework was about and thus confusing. She said"Exactley". Now the problem here is that she insisted that me sitting here and saving my homework for home was counter-productive aswell. As if it were somehow undoing any progress I'd made. Obviously this is completely absurd. Because of little things like this, I often get detentions, I've been near suspensions may times and likely expulsion.

The teachers don't seem to understand logic, it truelly bothers me.
Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but I hate you. I hate you. I hate your attitude, I hate your post, and if this is representative, I hate your life and I hate everything you stand for.

The teacher gave you an assignment. A perfectly reasonable one: Do your homework in class. This kind of thing happens all the time, maybe you got through the work faster than expected, maybe the class understood the material better than most, maybe she just planned badly. So she sets you something useful to do with your time (Yes, homework is useful) rather than just wasting the rest of the lesson and you decide to be horrendously arrogant and up yourself and argue with her. For. No. Reason.

This isn't "logic" it's belligerence. You weren't given a detention for contradicting her, you were given detention for being a dick.
I'm glad you hate me. I'll take it as a complement to my understanding of the world.

My problem is not that she gave us homework. It's she blatently ignored everything I said. The she worded it, she just didn't listen whatsoever. If she had provided ANY sort of arguement that made sense, I would have been fine with it. Instead she just pulled a ***** move, and said...no, do it. There was no reason for this, I was disturbing nobody, not causing any problems...nothing.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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I should've put this in my last post but whatever.

One thing I hate is what people are saying about teachers being our suppirriors. That just bothers me. It goes against any sort of idea of equallity I have. There have been two types of teachers in the past, good and bad. The good I treat with respect not anymore than they give me, but equal. The bad, I talk to the same way and they think I'm being offensive, and I get in shit for it. I treat everyone with an equal amount of respect until they prove they are worth more or less. Additionally, though I'm leagally required to go to school up to a certain point, I'm nto required to be nice to all my teachers, jsut follow the rules and pass the courses. Which I do, and the majority of the time with better than average grades.
 

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School was evil. You had to think according to the way they wanted while they made your life as miserable as humanly possible. After my dad died and i went back to school two days after the funeral i sat down in the class and was told i was a "fucking disgrace" as i missed two weeks off and the teacher claimed when his mother died he still went to school.

Long story short after being pretty much a model pupil since i started i went off the rails, made a website about the school which publicised some truths about individuals and made everyones life as miserable as they made me that day....

Anyway after that i went to college and they do expect you to think differently and its rewarded.....then university where it was back to school mentality but most of it is spent on copious amounts of alcohol so it was bearable.

After my time in school, 4 years of college, 4 years of uni, im now less likely to be employed than someone just out of school.
 

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Sightless Wisdom said:
I should've put this in my last post but whatever.

One thing I hate is what people are saying about teachers being our suppirriors. That just bothers me. It goes against any sort of idea of equallity I have. There have been two types of teachers in the past, good and bad. The good I treat with respect not anymore than they give me, but equal. The bad, I talk to the same way and they think I'm being offensive, and I get in shit for it. I treat everyone with an equal amount of respect until they prove they are worth more or less. Additionally, though I'm leagally required to go to school up to a certain point, I'm nto required to be nice to all my teachers, jsut follow the rules and pass the courses. Which I do, and the majority of the time with better than average grades.
Firstly I had to quote this, I may be missing carefully crafted satire however. I would say they are your Superiors simply because they are able to spell the word correctly! Teachers have the single worst job in the world especially in Britain at the moment. You see a child coming into school every day covered in bruises, do you report it? If the answer is yes you can get in horrible trouble, social services may not give a damn and that then opens the abusive parents ability to sue you for slander. If the answer is no then it reaches the papers and "Teacher ignores abuse!" stories appear and you use your job.

See a fight, break it up or not? If the answer is yes you open yourself to injury, reprisal and accusation of inappropriate touching. No and you stand and watch a child be beaten to a pulp. You have no powers to discipline apart from talking to them.

School was a hellish place for me when I was a pupil, I was thrashed by a teacher so I can see the flip side of the arguement as well!

But teachers have to be accountants, bouncers, police, educators, psychiatrists and psychologists with a little twist of social worker! So bear them and the system a thought.

Its as always politicians that fuck up everything with their stupid and illogical policies. Why can't Obama's America annex us and save us from the predations of the Brown government?
 

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One of the main points of regular schooling is to groom people into accepting authority. Without some acknowledgement of a higher body than ourselves society would be a very different and probably a lot worse place.
The germans accepted the nazi authority way back, look how well that went. : )

(yay! I invoked Godwins law! XD)
 

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tight rope walking
Cadet Drills
measuring paces
waiting in line (bank, post office)
Military marching
Tread mill exercise
Racing on foot (50m)
umm...
umm...
Shutting up and walking like your teacher tells you...that'll show'em
 

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I got a "class conference"(don't know if you guys have this in your country, but Germany it's when you and all your teachers and parents of the involved assemble in a room, and they judge over you, and talk shit about how evil you are, and decide how to punish you) because I *****-slapped some dick who thought he was funny making fun of me. I forgot what my punishment was, though.