Poll: No Reality In This Classroom!

[TheNumber1Zero]

Well lets see, I sit in a desk for 2 hours and get lectured, then I move to a DIFFERENT desk and get lectured again. That certainly sounds like the real world to me.

Although I have to say highschool is alot more realistic. Its grade school that used to drill holes in my fucking skull. Walk in a straight line. Give me 10 real life scenarios where that would apply, and I will sacrifice my left nut

If I give you one, will you just crotch-punch yourself?

Drunk-driving tests. you must walk in a straight line to pass one of the tests.
Kinda sad that the only thinkable scenario involves getting away with being plastered.

OT: Anything Polynomials, exactly why must everyone (If not anyone) learn such things?

Exactly where would polynomials be even used? Least of all by me?!

 

[nepheleim]

In my elementary school, the teachers literally taught science the way they probably figured shit out in the stone age. That being "Hey this kind of makes sense. You got anything better?". I got in an argument with a teacher over whether or not air has mass. I said "I'll prove air has mass. Take two balloons and blow one up. Now put each on a triple beam balance. See? The inflated one has greater mass." My teacher stood there for a second with her mouth open then turned to me and said in the most condescending voice you'll ever hear, "No! It has more mass because it's bigger. Air has nothing to do with it."

I'd like to call BS on this story, but that's too retarded to not be true. Dang. I would hope that this teacher was summarily fired for reckless stupidity. Seriously, being that dumb around a chemistry lab is dangerous.

 

[Tdc2182]

The truth is, yeah, are free education sucks. We aren't learning the things that will help us out in our jobs, and we are not learning things that will help us in our families. I appreciate it, but my school doesn't have a class that will talk about current events. Thats pretty sad. We are not putting the education to a better use. Hell, I would appreciate the hell out of it if they weren' having us take another year of US history which we ae been in three years. We should learning World history, which only requires one year.

...yeah, are our free education sucks.

Yeah, apparently yours did.

Also, I went to two different middle schools and three different high schools, and all of them offered an International Affairs / Foreign Relations type class. And if your school doesn't, petition for one? Start a fundraiser. Or just watch the news / read the newspaper and content yourself with being self-educated.

Who's we? I plan to put my education to fantastic use. Making me lots of money. And many, many people use their educations in great ways. Y'know, science, medicine, ever heard of such fields? Most of those people didn't get where they are by dropping out of school and crying about how their educational system sucks. It is what you make it. They went through with it, just like everyone else has to, and made it to where they wanted to be.

This is called success.

And again, if you don't like the classes you're taking, educate yourself on the matter. If you've taken American History three times [which doesn't even make sense to me and my experience with schools], you should be an expert and it should be a breeze. Spend the time you'd normally be paying attention to the teacher to doodle or I don't know, read?

"I plan to put my education to fantastic use. (i think you mean ,)M(And also lower case m)aking me lots of money." So apparently your education sucked too. It's extremely annoying isn't it.

Like I said, I appreciate my education, but it is extremely stupid. I took Social Studies( which was history) in 7th, AP US history in 8th, and now I am taking Us history in 11th. And guess whats next year! US Government.

I do plan on using my education. To pass college. And then I will put that useless knowledge to the back of my brain when I get a job and never have to refer back to it again. Science, medicine, law enforcement, yeah you don't need to use the "education" High School gives us in those fields. Believe me, I know. My dad is head of DEA in Tucson and my mom is a nurse. She had to go through a bit of math but she says herself that you don't need most of it.

I guess I will give you some credit to most schools having a Foreign affairs but I go to a rather small and new school.
I'm not one of the kids who go out of their way not to learn anything, they are dumb.

And during my useless classes I catch up on my sleep or read.

And one more thing. You going through high school are probobaly smart enough to realize when you openly insult or try to embarass him through methods like what you did earlier in your post, makes people really pissed. I am sick and tired of people being dicks on this site. I am trying to have a reasonable arguement and you just be a Dbag about it. Don't insult of you are making the same mistakes.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

In my elementary school, the teachers literally taught science the way they probably figured shit out in the stone age. That being "Hey this kind of makes sense. You got anything better?". I got in an argument with a teacher over whether or not air has mass. I said "I'll prove air has mass. Take two balloons and blow one up. Now put each on a triple beam balance. See? The inflated one has greater mass." My teacher stood there for a second with her mouth open then turned to me and said in the most condescending voice you'll ever hear, "No! It has more mass because it's bigger. Air has nothing to do with it."

How do people like this become teachers? Seriously. Down here in Australia I have yet to come across somebody as retarded as that, but give me time, there's one everywhere.
You Americans seem seriously screwed over here, I've read a couple of posts on how your system is absolute shit and I'm going to have to agree with you. I am very lucky I live in Australia, but even here we are forced to learn subjects that we do not need to learn, especially languages like German and Chinese. In Primary School (I think you guys in the U.S. call it Grade School) we had to learn Indonesian! Just cause they're close to us! Yes, our Indonesian teacher was related to Sarah Palin.

 

[CAB_IV]

To be honest, My high school wasn't to horrible (though it has had stories). I've only had one teacher that was truly clueless (trigonometry is forever skewed in my brain).

I've found that the way most of my classes are skewed off reality is all the "Current events", "ethical questions" and "Controversial topics"

I have so many stories. Every single class i had was politically charged, usually to liberal side of things. without getting into extreme details, In high school we've been straight up lied to, and told its ok to steal from those who have more than us because that is "fair".

College wasn't much better. I'm a biotech major. My job aspirations are almost exclusively set around developing new tech by genetically manipulating micro-organisms to construct useful molecules for fuel or pharmoceuticals. Can Someone please explain to me why i have to take an english literature class?

That is quite possibly the worst class i've had to take. I believe you know you're S.O.L. when the professor starts insisting that killing your lover and sleeping next to his dead body for 10 years is NOT crazy (A Rose for Emily, look it up). You know its worse when she tries to say Edgar Allen Poe did it (we KNOW he had problems, and i'm not even sure he really did sleep with a dead person).

The best part of it all is that i had to pay for a class that contributes NOTHING towards learning about recombinant DNA or anything useful, just so that i have general knowledge (AKA mad ravings) from my teacher. I suppose it should be surprising. every course at my college other than math is required to discuss at some point how it affects Women's and Minority's issues. being aware is great and all, but once again, i fail to see how this is truly useful to me, and why i have to waste my time on being told i'm a bad person because i'm white with a Y Chromosome. All i care about is poking DNA, as far as i'm concerned, everyone else is a human being.

I was almost expelled for receiving a death threat.

I call bullshit, my good sir.

Unless you elaborate.

lol, its happened at my high school (yay college). Basically, to be "fair", everyone who is involved in any kind of conflict will get punishment.

the assumption is, that even though the guy giving the death threat may be a freakin psychotic maniac, that the "victim" may not be so innocent, and MUST have been doing something to cause himself to have his life threatened.

just being named is enough to get you punished. If you can't be proved to have done anything, and you just let people beat the shit out of you without defending yourself, you just get a lesser detention.

its complete nonsense, but it won't change anytime soon. of course, nothing ever really gets done in that highschool when it comes to discipline.

 

[stone0042]

If I were sent back 4 years to middle school, I would probably be expelled. When I look back I always wonder why I put up with the shit they gave us.

That's exactly how I feel. I mean, I was a "good kid", but I could have wrought havoc upon them ,and they very well deserved it. I bet i could have started a small scale revolution.

 

[lacktheknack]

Three smacktards go over to my friend's house during lunch and smoke meth. My friend tells them to get off his property. He tries to push them off, but they won't leave.

Back at school: the three idiots start throwing up and passing out. Five days suspension.

My friend: Didn't try hard enough to make them leave/stop. Expelled.

Yeah, you read that right.

 

[Urgh76]

Im in 8th grade and they are just full of shit! i mean, he treats us like we're retards and makes us feel stupid! And when we pack up in 8th period just before the bell rings, he flips out because it didn't ring yet! And we continuosly (can't even spell anymore) have to be doing something in study hall even if the bell is 2 seconds away... *phew* i feel a lot better!

 

[Urgh76]

Three smacktards go over to my friend's house during lunch and smoke meth. My friend tells them to get off his property. He tries to push them off, but they won't leave.

Back at school: the three idiots start throwing up and passing out. Five days suspension.

My friend: Didn't try hard enough to make them leave/stop. Expelled.

Yeah, you read that right.

what

the

fu- *BOOM*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Cpu46]

Has anyone ever had a teacher who had stoped teaching kindergarten the year before and just jumped up 3-4 grades? That happened to me in twice. The first time was during 2nd grade and wasnt so bad. a little anoying but alright, she realized we wern't in kindergarten. the second time was during fourth grade and i think half my class drove her to the edge of sanity. imagine trying to impose "the golden rule" and no swearing (including stupid) to a bunch of 10 year old kids.

On another note did anyones teachers "prepare" you for the next grade instead of teaching you the material you were suposed to learn?

For 6th and 7th grade the teachers tryed to "prepare us for Jr high and high school" by making us hand write all our papers in Cursive and then marking them wrong when they couldnt read them, rushing the chapters we were suposed to learn in math just so we could learn the more advanced stuff (i have no clue how that thought proccess worked), and generaly just acting "better than thou".

For Jr High the math teachers kept saying "you should have spent all year on this last year, why cant you do it?". History I never studied for but still Aced test after test. Science, the teacher called me by the wrong name but other than that it was fine.

By the end of 8th grade my Math delema had more or less leveled out but had left me with a severe lack of motivation seing as i kinda gave up halfway through 8th grade. That was until my mother took matters into her own hands and emptied my room of everything but my desk, bed, and cloths until my grades improved (that meant no game boy for me... doodleing FTW).

and all four years of high school were normal, with some residual problems in math.

Now taking my freshman year of college! Sleep is becoming a distant friend and the Internet and Classwork are taking its place.

 

[VanityGirl]

Actually, I find that some classes (at least college stuff) is pointless.

I'm in pre-pharm right now, I have to take a cultural perspectives class to get some of my core stuff done.
Core, I hate core with a passion.
Reason being.
-I'm going into Pharmacy, if anything I really need math, chemistry, and possibly latin. I do not need to know what the difference in Platonic and Aristotilian thoughts are.

For me, if I'm going to actually pay Money to go to college, I want to learn what I need to and get out. Teach me all the stuff I need to know, and cut the stuff I don't need to know.
I learned how to read and write just fine, thank you.

 

[la-le-lu-li-lo]

*snip*

Actually, we're both wrong.

The most correct way to have phrased those sentences would likely be as follows: I plan to put my education to fantastic use, namely, making me lots of money.

Well, that's to my preference of wording, but you get the gist.

I made it a separate sentence to formulate some kind of emphasis, which was quite silly indeed since I had corrected you on your grammar. It's simply how I would have spoken it I suppose.

I should also add that I don't think the American school system is exactly great. 'Tis not my point at all. My point is simply to stress the importance of not complaining about things that are 'facts of life', or that you don't bother to try and change. More importantly, I'm trying to push the importance of self-education, because sometimes our educational system is lacking. I didn't have a decent English class until 4th grade when I was put into the 'Gifted' program [gag], but I was well above my writing & reading level for my age by that time. My parents insisted I read, taught me early, and it soon became a passion of mine. I don't speak well because I've taken numerous English classes [only just finished High School two years ago], or because I've ever taken a writing class. It's because I read.

The moral of my story can be summarized by this example: Say you don't understand a certain lesson in Algebra. Do you say 'fuck it', drop the class / fail out, or do you try and learn it at home through your own methods? Maybe your teacher didn't explain it very well, but that doesn't mean you abandon the system completely. Work through it.

Not to mention, you have to consider yourself lucky to even have free public schools [if in fact, you do], or a decent educational system period. A lot of people are not quite so lucky.

And you're right, I am a bit of a douchebag, aren't I? I suppose I owe you an apology, as clearly you didn't deserve my hostility / mockery. I'm a full supporter of rational, reasonable discussions, and making jabs is certainly not the way to do it.

If I may throw an excuse your way, I haven't had the best of weeks, and my common courtesy has somewhat downgraded due to it. I shall attempt to rectify the situation.


[SIDENOTE]
[small]And then he went home and made a hearty breakfast...
All for you Matt.[/small]

 

[dsau]

school is mostly needless bull shit that makes little impact on our lives except in the act of....(i hate this word) conforming. however some teachers do teach the way it is supposed to be, by relating it to our lives, such as english

 

[Dr. UBAR]

I got in trouble for a subject that is very "iffy". We were in RE class talking about Aboriginal culture and I said that they are generally disadvantaged, so many of them revert to things like drugs and gangs etc. Teacher got pissed, said I was a racist.

 

[MercenaryCanary]

Oddly enough, I don't seem to have this problem.
When our High School English teacher asked me something about what the place in the brochure might be like based on the information it contained, she laughed when I said "Well, it seems like a place that seems really good for the first three days, and then after that magical third day, you quickly realize all the restaurants only serve alcohol, and the only places that do serve food are over-priced and terrible." Easiest. 100. Ever.

 

[Deleric]

My classes this year have actually been relatively smooth. I don't get tedious busywork assignments and the teachers are Okay.

But I absolutely HATED the needless paper-wasting time-consuming shit I had to do last year.

 

[Lullabye]

Has anyone ever had a teacher who had stoped teaching kindergarten the year before and just jumped up 3-4 grades? That happened to me in twice. The first time was during 2nd grade and wasnt so bad. a little anoying but alright, she realized we wern't in kindergarten. the second time was during fourth grade and i think half my class drove her to the edge of sanity. imagine trying to impose "the golden rule" and no swearing (including stupid) to a bunch of 10 year old kids.

Now and then I recieved a teacher that tryed to pull that shit during class where they spew all that "i am a teacher, take all of my words as fact, even if their not!" stuff, and then have their entire argument turned over by a child probably a fifth of their age. But mostly I got great teachers that treated the students like equals, especially in high school.

you my friend, have experienced what i like to call "reality rejection". WHere a person in a position of authority goes over the deep end with power(because ya know, teachers dont really have much else to do) and rejects reality and replaces it with there own.
like my counselor so nicely said "this is an institution, if you do not follow the rules and what the faculty here tell you to do, you might as well leave". I just love how they think "school" is so necessary. Like how i always say, schools not important, knowledge is.
Even today i had to EXPLAIN TO MY SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER WHY RACISM IS NOT BENEFICIAL TO HUMANITY! I shit you not. i think after 5 years of work, everyone needs to take a reality check.

 

[Lullabye]

I got in trouble for a subject that is very "iffy". We were in RE class talking about Aboriginal culture and I said that they are generally disadvantaged, so many of them revert to things like drugs and gangs etc. Teacher got pissed, said I was a racist.

haha, that wins out mine. but i once had my social studies teacher say mulattoes(meaning me) are pack mules.

 

[Nuke_em_05]

I think people are missing the point of public education, at least in the United States.

The idea is that you learn how to "learn". The subject mattter is irrelevant. It isn't a place for free-thinking or preparing for the workplace.

You do busy work to practice doing busywork, which you will most likely have to deal with starting out anywhere. You practice writing, you practice studying. You learn fundamentals of various fields to see what peaks your interest to study in College/Univeristy, and at least have a general understanding of the basics when you enter.

You can't claim that any given aspect isn't applicable to the "real world" because you have very little experience with it. You can't claim that you will never use any of that information, because you have no idea where you'll end up.

Questioning, being a smart-ass, picking fights, "calling people out", whatever, all irrelevant, and generally unproductive.

There's another important skill to learn, when to "sit down, shut up, and do your work". If you think that isn't applicable to the "real world", you've never been there.