Poll: Paedophile sentenced to be beheaded then crucified

[orc33]

i dont see death penality as a good punishment form, 30 years (or more) in solitary confinement seems like a better punishment to things like this.

 

[Symplify]

Totally acceptable, to be honest. The guy raped 5 kids. He will have fucked up their whole lives, and it's not worth wasting tax payer money on locking him up.

Go get raped/molested and then say you're cool with letting child rapists hang out in asylums.

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

While child rape and murder certainly does deserve to be punished harshly, I'm personally not a huge fan of the death penalty. Especially carried out in such a barbaric way, and especially when the person being punished is mentally unstable.

I do however support forced chemical castration for sex offenders. Mentally unstable or not.

Millions of animals are euthanized simply because they have a disease that may or may not affect us, thousands of animals will die when they don't have a disease simply because we worry they MIGHT have a disease.

So, why should we even waste our time arguing 'He has a disease! Let him live!'

I recall this man that raped and killed his daughter, they had every bit of proof to know he was the culprit. The only thing that stopped him from being thrown in jail was his excuse -

'I have a disease'

One thing I wonder is, why, why do we let them lurk around us? If he has a disease that makes him even more dangerous. It could be argued that I have a disease as well, and that I should be taken from the world as well, but seeing that my 'disease' doesn't hurt anyone I suppose
I'm fine.

Animals aren't humans.

It's a simple fact, isn't it? Yet so many people seem to enjoy disregarding this.

If an animal has a disease that causes it to kill, you put it down. If a human being has a disease that causes them to kill, you cure them. Or at least try to cure them, while making sure they don't harm anyone again.

Why? Because a human life is worth more than an animal life. There, I said it. It's a statement that'll drive treehuggers up the walls, but I would kill a thousand cute little baby seals to save a single human life. But this really isn't the thread for such a discussion.

Anyway, even if you believe that certain things can validate taking a man's life (and to be honest, even though I would always prefer alternative solutions, I can imagine such situations), there is no excuse for brutally executing a mentally ill person without a fair trial.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Eh, Decapitation can be humane, if done right--Guillotine. Quick, painless, doesn't leave half the neck there or a crushed spinal cord and windpipe, sure, that's humane. I don't get the crucifixion bit afterward, though. Dude's already dead, why string him up on some wooden beams so that he can smell all gross and be picked by the birds? It's a bit redundant and unnecessary, since it's not like you're really deterring crime...

 

[orangebandguy]

They're crucifying him after he's lost his head? Bit daft isn't it?

 

[InfernoJesus]

When you continue to punish someone after you've already killed them, it ceases to be a punishment. Maybe they just enjoy this kind of thing but it seems like the same result could be achieved by just shooting him.

 

[ChocoFace]

Well...this is rather weird
Hmm well they might see it as an eye for an eye as leaving a child for dead could be seen by that court as murder probably.

On a less serious note how's the beheading being carried out? Sword, axe, guillotine or another method?

Personally, all I have to say is that I never knew crucifixion was still carried out.

Karate chop.

 

[Internet Kraken]

I support, and LOVE it. Seriously, bring that to the USA. Crimes would drop like a sniper shot over 500 miles!

I don't see the logic here. Do you really think our crime rate would drop if we enforced such ridiculous punishments? Nobody commits such a serious crime thinking that they will be caught, so to them it doesn't matter what the punishment is.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Seem to be a lot of Saudis on the Escapist. Who would've known.

 

[thedo12]

Just quietly though, if I had a child and someone raped him//her I would take the law into my own hands, Rorschach style.

as a liberal I have no problem with that,


however I do have a problem with giving the government the power to kill people, Honestly I don't get republican's who want the govenement to kill people for them. They think the government isn't reponsible enough to give people basic healthcare however they think the govenment should have the power to kill people and have a massive army?

In the ned if you want to personaly kill someone who wrong you, im fine with that, However if you want the government to do it for you then you instantly lost respect with me.

 

[Symplify]

Seem to be a lot of Saudis on the Escapist. Who would've known.

You mean a lot of people who hate pedophiles.

For those of you suggesting that prison would be more humane for him, then I have to ask whether or not you know how other criminals feel about pedophiles. (They hate,hate,hate,hate them.)

 

[Chipperz]

IF this is the right man, then he needs treatment, not execution. It doesn't sound like he had a fair trial, so there's no way of telling if he's the right guy, anyway.

Also, everyone that voted that this is right clearly supports Sharia law, which is, well, it's their thing I know, but I know in England there's a lot of worry that it might happen here...

How exactly would you 'treat' a pedophile? Give him a cup of tea and let him huddle up on the psychiatrist's couch and bawl about how 'misunderstood' he is and gosh darnit, those damn toddlers were just asking for it, being all sexy like that, you patting his hand all the while and cooing that he's a good person who did nothing wrong?

Fuck that. He is a rapist. He cannot change. He irreparably harmed five children. The bastard richly deserves to die.

Did he? You know that do you? The fact he didn't have a lawyer and the entire trial sounds very much like he was told what he did, regardless of whether or not he did it, doesn't compel me to believe the evidence.

Good to know you advocate stoning women for showing their ankles. Do you also believe in taking hands for theft?

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Seem to be a lot of Saudis on the Escapist. Who would've known.

You mean a lot of people who hate pedophiles.

That's right, if a person doesn't support crazy inhumane barbaric forms of punishment, then he must surely loves pedophiles.

Makes perfect sense.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Inhumane crimes demand inhumane punishment, in most other countries their stay in prison would be equally short and painful. I would have crucified him first for a few days, let people throw rocks at him, then behead him.

Saying that a child rapist deserves humane punishment, what is wrong with you?

 

[Go on]

This may sound inhumane but if he has raped 5 children and then left one to die it becomes really hard to defend him.

 

[Symplify]

Seem to be a lot of Saudis on the Escapist. Who would've known.

You mean a lot of people who hate pedophiles.

That's right, if a person doesn't support crazy inhumane barbaric forms of punishment, then he must surely loves pedophiles.

Makes perfect sense.

I didn't suggest that, you just did. I just said a lot of us hate pedophiles, and don't necessarily view the rather barbaric and archaic form of punishment the Saudis use to be unacceptable in this case. Nice try though.

 

[Sylocat]

The crucifixion of the corpse could just be the serve as an example to others. Like shoving the heads of your fallen enemies on wooden pikes. Though I could easily be wrong. I don't know much about the Islamic faith.

Psh. They're behind the times. Back when we had people we wanted to make an example of we would hang, draw and quarter them.

Wikiquote of what that entails exactly:

1. Dragged on a hurdle (a wooden frame) to the place of execution. This is one possible meaning of drawn.
2. Hanged by the neck for a short time or until almost dead (hanged).
3. Disembowelled and emasculated and the genitalia and entrails burned before the condemned's eyes (this is another meaning of drawn?see the reference to the Oxford English Dictionary below)
4. The body divided into four parts, then beheaded (quartered).

Typically, the resulting five parts (i.e., the four quarters of the body and the head) were gibbeted (put on public display) in different parts of the city, town, or, in famous cases, in the country, to deter would-be traitors who had not seen the execution. After 1814, the convict would be hanged until dead and the mutilation would be performed post-mortem. Gibbeting was later abolished in England in 1843, while drawing and quartering was abolished in 1870.

We British knew how to punish!

You certainly did.

So yeah, I have no objections to the beheading, but crucifying the body afterwards... well, I'm too busy to look it up right now, do they do the post-mortem crucifixion for other crimes?

 

[Sindaine]

Uh, durr. No, the children that were brutally raped and left to die weren't harmed in any way at all; you're right; I don't know enough about this case to make any kind of judgement. They totally just made all that up to kill an innocent man who had never been caught raping children before; totally.

And what does stoning women and cutting off hands have to do with jack shit? Are the victims pedophiles? Because if so then, aces, go to it!

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Seem to be a lot of Saudis on the Escapist. Who would've known.

You mean a lot of people who hate pedophiles.

That's right, if a person doesn't support crazy inhumane barbaric forms of punishment, then he must surely loves pedophiles.

Makes perfect sense.

I didn't suggest that, you just did. I just said a lot of us hate pedophiles, and don't necessarily view the rather barbaric and archaic form of punishment the Saudis use to be unacceptable in this case. Nice try though.

What can I say, I try.

But whatever, I've long since abandoned any pretense of arguing with anyone in a thread like this.