Poll: Paedophile sentenced to be beheaded then crucified

[DoomyMcDoom]

I would get him locked in a cell, being beaten with ladles till death... either from starvation, or other causes as he would just be hit with ladles, and not fed till he died.

it's a much more awesome way to kill a prisoner who is a child raping filthbag.

 

[AdmanUK]

The killing of the man is to stop him re-affending, as it is obvious he will never be normal and sticking him in a cell to rot or be killed by inmates is just pointless. Plus the display of his corpse is more of an ultimate dishonor so yeah I say go for Saudis only personally I would have done it the other way round to make the bastard suffer. As for your point about it being no better, justice isn't about being better, it is about balancing the scales while assuring no reaffence is commited

 

[FightThePower]

Talk about stooping to his level.

Paedophilia is a mental condition, people.

It was still his choice to rape and murder children.

Yeah, I'm not arguing against that, but beheading and then crucifing him, and with people on here saying he should be tortured as well...talk about overkill.

Isn't locking him away for the rest of his life enough?

 

[Akai Shizuku]

More on topic, I agree. Pedophiles, especially those who kill their victims, deserve no rights.

Take the rights away from one, you might as well take the rights away from everyone. Once you start including allowances and caveats into what is, and what is not, acceptable treatment for human beings then you wind up dehumanizing humans.

Guantanamo bay? Did you object? Well there were many people who thought that was justice. They were terrorists, going to kill and maim people who were just going about their business. So locking them up and torturing them all day long was actually humane.

To forestall your next point, there really isn't a difference. Leaving an improvised explosive device in a village where kids play, knowing that they could be killed, and raping those kids, are two things that are pretty much on par with each other as far as evil goes.

<url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp#Criticism>I very much do believe there is a difference.

 

[Xan Krieger]

Wish we did that here...

agreed.
As for the people suggesting he be locked up in a prison or asylum that would be a lot more exspensive then an axe, some nails, and a few pieces of wood. Besides, after the crimes the guy did he is no longer really deserving of humane treatment.

As for those saying it's a mental illness, "He can't help it." is not a real good reason to keep someone around.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

Talk about stooping to his level.

Paedophilia is a mental condition, people.

It was still his choice to rape and murder children.

Yeah, I'm not arguing against that, but beheading and then crucifing him, and with people on here saying he should be tortured as well...talk about overkill.

Isn't locking him away for the rest of his life enough?

What's the difference between that and the death penalty?

Oh, wait...wasted money and resources.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

More on topic, I agree. Pedophiles, especially those who kill their victims, deserve no rights.

Take the rights away from one, you might as well take the rights away from everyone. Once you start including allowances and caveats into what is, and what is not, acceptable treatment for human beings then you wind up dehumanizing humans.

Guantanamo bay? Did you object? Well there were many people who thought that was justice. They were terrorists, going to kill and maim people who were just going about their business. So locking them up and torturing them all day long was actually humane.

To forestall your next point, there really isn't a difference. Leaving an improvised explosive device in a village where kids play, knowing that they could be killed, and raping those kids, are two things that are pretty much on par with each other as far as evil goes.

<url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp#Criticism>I very much do believe there is a difference.

Yes, you do believe there is a difference. Others don't. There are people who would like to see the people in Guantanamo simply taken behind a tent and shot through the head. Why do we not do this? Due process.

The person who was beheaded and crucified did not have this.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

More on topic, I agree. Pedophiles, especially those who kill their victims, deserve no rights.

Actually, the majority of child rapists aren't paedophiles. They're just bastards with a power complex who have a position of power over a child.

In fact, rape in general is usually about power, not sex.

That actually makes it worse.

 

[Tdc2182]

Wait, so they're going to behead him then crucify him?

That seems a bit unnecessary. Not because it's inhumane or anything, but because he's already dead after the whole beheading.

I was gonna say this.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Sorry, that was a bit difficult to understand, I'll admit. My point was that regardless of whether or not it deters other criminals, it will stop this one from committing any more crimes without a shadow of a doubt.

While I disagree with killing someone for such a purpose, I will say that if you do so at least do it in a humane way. Beheading someone and then crucifying their corpse serves no purpose.

It stops repeat offenses and provides some emotional relief for the victims.

I believe the punishment should fit the crime. If you kill and rape children, I think a punishment like this is perfectly fitting, especially considering that rape gives people mental illnesses (I know this for a fact), and pretty much screws up their whole lives.

That;s not true. Unless you can prove that rape is 100% guaranteed to have screwed up the lives of everyone that has been raped, then you can't call it a fact.

And really, does beheading someone and crucifying their corpse really provide emotion relief for the victims? I doubt that seeing a vermin infested corpse nailed to wooden planks would help them.

One of my friends was raped as a child. She now suffers from borderline personality disorder, depression with psychotic features, and numerous other problems.

Okay, but not every rape victim is just like your friend. I never denied that rape causes emotional problems. What I meant was that it does not always ruin someone's life permanently.

 

[Maze1125]

More on topic, I agree. Pedophiles, especially those who kill their victims, deserve no rights.

Actually, the majority of child rapists aren't paedophiles. They're just bastards with a power complex who have a position of power over a child.

In fact, rape in general is usually about power, not sex.

That actually makes it worse.

I agree.
But it's important to recognise the distinction between paedophiles and child rapists.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

Sorry, that was a bit difficult to understand, I'll admit. My point was that regardless of whether or not it deters other criminals, it will stop this one from committing any more crimes without a shadow of a doubt.

While I disagree with killing someone for such a purpose, I will say that if you do so at least do it in a humane way. Beheading someone and then crucifying their corpse serves no purpose.

It stops repeat offenses and provides some emotional relief for the victims.

I believe the punishment should fit the crime. If you kill and rape children, I think a punishment like this is perfectly fitting, especially considering that rape gives people mental illnesses (I know this for a fact), and pretty much screws up their whole lives.

That;s not true. Unless you can prove that rape is 100% guaranteed to have screwed up the lives of everyone that has been raped, then you can't call it a fact.

And really, does beheading someone and crucifying their corpse really provide emotion relief for the victims? I doubt that seeing a vermin infested corpse nailed to wooden planks would help them.

One of my friends was raped as a child. She now suffers from borderline personality disorder, depression with psychotic features, and numerous other problems.

Okay, but not every rape victim is just like your friend. I never denied that rape causes emotional problems. What I meant was that it does not always ruin someone's life permanently.

Have you ever been raped? Do you know any victims?

 

[Akai Shizuku]

More on topic, I agree. Pedophiles, especially those who kill their victims, deserve no rights.

Actually, the majority of child rapists aren't paedophiles. They're just bastards with a power complex who have a position of power over a child.

In fact, rape in general is usually about power, not sex.

That actually makes it worse.

I agree.
But it's important to recognise the distinction between paedophiles and child rapists.

I agree, and it was my mistake. I ask all pedophiles reading this to dismiss my derogatory comment and forgive me.

-stifles laughter-

Seriously though, my bad.

 

[HyperCubed4]

so raping one kid is excusable? ill keep that in mind next time i touch your daughter in the ass.

Yes, you're right. That's exactly what I said. You hit it right on the dot. Raping one child is perfectly okay. I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say that you're not a complete idiot and you're trying to be funny, despite the fact that you want to touch my future daughter in the ass (you sick disgusting fuck, you), but that you just took my post out of context.

Raping children is not okay, no matter what the circumstance. My point is that if you rape five children--and apparently, kill one as well--then jail is simply not good enough. Sure, that pedophile will probably have to watch his back every waking second and not close his eyes for one of those seconds for fear of getting raped/murdered/castrated/etc. But it makes more of an impact if you show the entire town that if you rape a child, you're going to get fucked over and made an example of. The death penalty does that too, but only for a small audience.

In my eyes, I do consider crucifying someone to a crowd and then cutting off their head (or vice versa, although I prefer the former of the two options) to be a just punishment. You're setting an example for all those who choose to do something unfathomably horrid in the future. I've seen a video of a man who was shot almost point-blank in the face with a shotgun for raping someone's daughter. The man who shot him? The victim's father. You see? Why can't North America have laws like that? Too inhumane? Fuck that. Pedophiles are barely human anyways.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Sorry, that was a bit difficult to understand, I'll admit. My point was that regardless of whether or not it deters other criminals, it will stop this one from committing any more crimes without a shadow of a doubt.

While I disagree with killing someone for such a purpose, I will say that if you do so at least do it in a humane way. Beheading someone and then crucifying their corpse serves no purpose.

It stops repeat offenses and provides some emotional relief for the victims.

I believe the punishment should fit the crime. If you kill and rape children, I think a punishment like this is perfectly fitting, especially considering that rape gives people mental illnesses (I know this for a fact), and pretty much screws up their whole lives.

That;s not true. Unless you can prove that rape is 100% guaranteed to have screwed up the lives of everyone that has been raped, then you can't call it a fact.

And really, does beheading someone and crucifying their corpse really provide emotion relief for the victims? I doubt that seeing a vermin infested corpse nailed to wooden planks would help them.

One of my friends was raped as a child. She now suffers from borderline personality disorder, depression with psychotic features, and numerous other problems.

Okay, but not every rape victim is just like your friend. I never denied that rape causes emotional problems. What I meant was that it does not always ruin someone's life permanently.

Have you ever been raped? Do you know any victims?

Why does it matter if I was a raped or not? You said that rape will give people permanent mental disorders. You said this was a fact. Well you need to prove that this is a fact.

Yes I have met victims of rape. Rape victims that are now living perfectly normal, healthy lives. This is exactly why I'm questioning your statement.

 

[skywalkerlion]

I read in the news to day that A saudi man has been sentenced to be beheaded and then crucified [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8342005.stm].

The guy had raped 5 children. Dumping one of them in the desert, left for dead. Amnesty International are not happy saying he has mental health problems and he was not given access to a lawyer. The article doesn't mention it but Im sure they aren't crazy about the beheading then crucifixion thing either.

Apparently in Saudi beheading is used for serious crimes with over 40 people decapitated this year. They claim it is an Islamic and a humane way to kill someone. The crucifixion involves displaying his body up on wooden beams.

So is this justice? Do you feel that Amnesty are right? Would you introduce the punishment in your country? If so for which crimes? Your thoughts please.

The man deserves to die brutally, and a beheading is fine, but what the hell? CRUCIFYING, after he's dead and left without a head??

That's inhumane.

 

[Silva]

What's the difference between that and the death penalty?

Oh, wait...wasted money and resources.

Waste is relative to the purpose of a thing. And purpose varies from opinion. To me, this is not a waste. Most likely, it is the same for the other 30% who voted that this is inhumane.

Have you ever been raped? Do you know any victims?

While I can't speak for Kraken, I know victims, and I have seen some of them return their lives to some level of happiness. Yes, there is a memory there that is traumatising, but whether or not it is debilitating depends on their willpower and how severe the experience was. Both of these factors vary a lot. Someone with a strong willpower, who was raped but not continually for days like some people, for example, may be able to break the threshold of grief and repair their lives thereafter.

I've seen it happen, and truly, I wouldn't believe it either, if I hadn't. It is a very moving thing to watch.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

Sorry, that was a bit difficult to understand, I'll admit. My point was that regardless of whether or not it deters other criminals, it will stop this one from committing any more crimes without a shadow of a doubt.

While I disagree with killing someone for such a purpose, I will say that if you do so at least do it in a humane way. Beheading someone and then crucifying their corpse serves no purpose.

It stops repeat offenses and provides some emotional relief for the victims.

I believe the punishment should fit the crime. If you kill and rape children, I think a punishment like this is perfectly fitting, especially considering that rape gives people mental illnesses (I know this for a fact), and pretty much screws up their whole lives.

That;s not true. Unless you can prove that rape is 100% guaranteed to have screwed up the lives of everyone that has been raped, then you can't call it a fact.

And really, does beheading someone and crucifying their corpse really provide emotion relief for the victims? I doubt that seeing a vermin infested corpse nailed to wooden planks would help them.

One of my friends was raped as a child. She now suffers from borderline personality disorder, depression with psychotic features, and numerous other problems.

Okay, but not every rape victim is just like your friend. I never denied that rape causes emotional problems. What I meant was that it does not always ruin someone's life permanently.

Have you ever been raped? Do you know any victims?

Why does it matter if I was a raped or not? You said that rape will give people permanent mental disorders. You said this was a fact. Well you need to prove that this is a fact.

Yes I have met victims of rape. Rape victims that are now living perfectly normal, healthy lives. This is exactly why I'm questioning your statement.

It often does, but I never said always.

But it does.

Often.