Poll: Paedophile sentenced to be beheaded then crucified

[dubious_wolf]

Im Still a fan of the rope and tree method... keeps the cost of capital punishment down and is quick and clean, ah the days of the old west... I will miss you... crucifying the body seems pointless the dudes dead. I understand using it as a deterrent so others maybe more hesitant, but all you have to do is publicize the beheading.... it will give you the same shock value without the rotten smell. Although Beheading is pretty humane, I just prefer the gallows. less mess

EDIT: I don't want him to suffer (i mean he is going to suffer psychologically after all he knows he is about to die) Causing him to suffer and be in any sort of pain physically is inhumane and anyone calling for him to suffer is a little too blood thirsty in my opinion.
OH Shit he didn't have a lawyer? That's a BIG NO NO... I'm against the verdict just because of that. You can't kill someone without running them through a FAIR trial, FAIR means he gets legal representation, simple as that.

 

[Jark212]

In my country it would be 50 years in a decent jail followed by a 5-star meal, and then a completely painless death, just taking place a few years before they would die of natural causes...

*Sigh* public execution and crucifixion is a bit extreme... Firing squad in a undisclosed location in much more appropriate.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Sorry, that was a bit difficult to understand, I'll admit. My point was that regardless of whether or not it deters other criminals, it will stop this one from committing any more crimes without a shadow of a doubt.

While I disagree with killing someone for such a purpose, I will say that if you do so at least do it in a humane way. Beheading someone and then crucifying their corpse serves no purpose.

It stops repeat offenses and provides some emotional relief for the victims.

I believe the punishment should fit the crime. If you kill and rape children, I think a punishment like this is perfectly fitting, especially considering that rape gives people mental illnesses (I know this for a fact), and pretty much screws up their whole lives.

That;s not true. Unless you can prove that rape is 100% guaranteed to have screwed up the lives of everyone that has been raped, then you can't call it a fact.

And really, does beheading someone and crucifying their corpse really provide emotion relief for the victims? I doubt that seeing a vermin infested corpse nailed to wooden planks would help them.

One of my friends was raped as a child. She now suffers from borderline personality disorder, depression with psychotic features, and numerous other problems.

Okay, but not every rape victim is just like your friend. I never denied that rape causes emotional problems. What I meant was that it does not always ruin someone's life permanently.

Have you ever been raped? Do you know any victims?

Why does it matter if I was a raped or not? You said that rape will give people permanent mental disorders. You said this was a fact. Well you need to prove that this is a fact.

Yes I have met victims of rape. Rape victims that are now living perfectly normal, healthy lives. This is exactly why I'm questioning your statement.

It often does, but I never said always.

But it does.

Often.

"especially considering that rape gives people mental illnesses (I know this for a fact), and pretty much screws up their whole lives"

Your own words disagree with you. You said you know for a fact that it gives people mental illnesses and screws up their whole lives.

And again, please provide proof that it often does. You seem to be basing all of your claims off of this one person you know.

 

[asinann]

My only issue is that he had no lawyer, and if he IS a retard like is being said, he could have been locked in a room for a bit then when the interrogator came in and asked "Do you know why you are here?"

He says "no"

The interrogator says something along the lines of "you raped and killed little kids."

Retard says, "Oh, I guess I was bad."

Whether he actually did it or not, that's the problem with interrogation when you don't have a lawyer present.

 

[Brockyman]

I don't understand why they would crucify him AFTER cutting his head off... they should do it before, for a few days, then cut off his head. No excuse to raping and killing children...

 

[JaredXE]

Hmmmm, could I modify his punishment?

Off with his nuts, then off with his head. Then decapitate him and string him up to a cross.

I don't care if some people say that he has mental health problems. Mental illness should not be a shield against punishment for crimes. Even if the person doesn't realize what they are doing is wrong, that is EXACTLY why they need to be locked up or executed, because they have no remorse and wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

Whatever else I think of Islam and it's culture and laws, those guys do know how to get biblical on a criminal's ass.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Never mind. I don't think this thread is destined for great things.

I suppose when I read the op and noticed that crucifixion, beheading, paedophilia, Islam and religion, were all brought up together in one thread I should have known that south was the only direction.

 

[FightThePower]

Talk about stooping to his level.

Paedophilia is a mental condition, people.

It was still his choice to rape and murder children.

Yeah, I'm not arguing against that, but beheading and then crucifing him, and with people on here saying he should be tortured as well...talk about overkill.

Isn't locking him away for the rest of his life enough?

What's the difference between that and the death penalty?

Oh, wait...wasted money and resources.

I'd prefer that anyway. I'm usually against objective morality, but I think human life is sacred and that killing someone is inherently wrong.

It may also interest you to know the leading cause of death on Death Row in California is, in fact, Natural Causes. They recently spent $220 million on building a new Death Row building; money well spent, eh?

 

[Akai Shizuku]

What's the difference between that and the death penalty?

Oh, wait...wasted money and resources.

Waste is relative to the purpose of a thing. And purpose varies from opinion. To me, this is not a waste. Most likely, it is the same for the other 30% who voted that this is inhumane.

Have you ever been raped? Do you know any victims?

While I can't speak for Kraken, I know victims, and I have seen some of them return their lives to some level of happiness. Yes, there is a memory there that is traumatising, but whether or not it is debilitating depends on their willpower and how severe the experience was. Both of these factors vary a lot. Someone with a strong willpower, who was raped but not continually for days like some people, for example, may be able to break the threshold of grief and repair their lives thereafter. I've seen it happen.

<url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_and_aftermath_of_rape>Wikipedia supports my point.

 

[Brockyman]

How exactly does that make them better than the pedo or do anyone justice?

That's just cruel and they're just as fucked up if not more.

Yes, rape is bad and when it has something to do with children, its worse (by social standards. Its all the same to me.) but killing someone and putting it up for display? Thats just fucked.

Um..it's saying "IF YOU RAPE AND LEAVE CHILDREN FOR DEAD, WE WILL KILL YOU?" Sounds like a good message to send honestly.

It makes them better then the pedo b/c.. THEY AREN'T RAPING CHILDREN!

There is NEVER an excuse for child abuse.. ever. Not mental illness. Not genetic issues. Not having an abusive childhood themselves. NOTHING. There is no rehab, no surgery, no therapy that can cure a pedo. All pedos should all die the most horrible way possible.


SIDE NOTE:
It's funny, Muslims are protected when they won't let female school children out of a freakin BURNING BUILDING b/c they aren't covered according to Sharia law, but people get all pissy when they do something right for a change. Beheading is too good for this guy... cut of his penis first...then behead him.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

Talk about stooping to his level.

Paedophilia is a mental condition, people.

It was still his choice to rape and murder children.

Yeah, I'm not arguing against that, but beheading and then crucifing him, and with people on here saying he should be tortured as well...talk about overkill.

Isn't locking him away for the rest of his life enough?

What's the difference between that and the death penalty?

Oh, wait...wasted money and resources.

I'd prefer that anyway. I'm usually against objective morality, but I think human life is sacred and that killing someone is inherently wrong.

It may also interest you to know the leading cause of death on Death Row in California is, in fact, Natural Causes. They recently spent $220 million on building a new Death Row building; money well spent, eh?

A total waste of money. You don't need to detain prisoners for years before finishing the job, as cold as that may sound.

 

[Phoenix Arrow]

Their law is their law and I'd be damned if it doesn't work as a pretty impressive deterent.

 

[Serge A. Storms]

I will always prefer the U.S.'s justice system, and I generally don't like the death penalty in the U.S. because it doesn't do much to deter crime and it costs millions of tax dollars to kill someone 20 years after they did the crime. That being said, seeing this kind of execution of what would generally be considered a reprehensible being worthy of execution is almost like a form of escapism for me. A dream of living in a society where the child fuckers don't get to infect the rest of society. But I also understand that it's a dream and it must be a dream, as restrictions put on the ability to receive fair representation and the right to appeal in a country with a real judicial system would inevitably result in innocent lives lost and a failure of the system as a whole. I'm not going to cry about this, but I'm not going to celebrate Saudi Arabia's judicial system just because they have the ideal punishment for the worst criminals.

 

[Deef]

Seems like a good way to dissuade any other would-be pedophiles.

 

[Silva]

<url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_and_aftermath_of_rape>Wikipedia supports my point.

At no point does that article say that victims must experience one of these problems, or that these are all permanent. So no, it doesn't, not the part which we were disagreeing with, anyway. This is because there are degrees of severity involved.

 

[toapat]

Wait, so they're going to behead him then crucify him?

That seems a bit unnecessary. Not because it's inhumane or anything, but because he's already dead after the whole beheading.

Seriously. The priorities seem a bit messed up here.
Couldn't they be original and do both at the same time or something?
Now that would be interesting.

I say bring back the good old hung drawn and quartered. Or maybe fifths... yes that could work nicely.

even better, snake a hook through their bowls and hook it into their skull, then pull their arms in one direction and the hook in the other

 

[CoziestPigeon]

I don't see how chopping off someones head and then crucifying them is humane. Though I guess that I'm biased since I'm against killing people for any reason.

A lot of people on this website have said that pedophiles should be horribly punished, so they should like this.

I dunno about you, but if I was sentenced to death, I'd much prefer beheading. Much faster than this terrible lethal injection shit.

 

[Silva]

Their law is their law and I'd be damned if it doesn't work as a pretty impressive deterent.

I see a problem here - if 40 people are killed this way in Saudi Arabia each year, then it's not deterring a thing.

 

[Snotnarok]

I think they're doing it wrong, crucify him first, then take his head off. If you think modern day punishment is better than this, then you're wrong, what do you think happens to these men who wind up in jail? You don't honestly think that other prisoners won't find a way to make this mans life hell or simply dead.