It's deciding that their isn't enough evidence to come to a conclusion.Tharwen said:I don't see the point of agnosticism. I feel that, if there's so little evidence that you're limited to pondering the very existence of a god, you might as well go the whole way and take it for granted that it doesn't exist.
A similar example would be being agnostic about whether or not there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine. Yes, I can never be sure without going in there and checking (and, realistically, not even then, but that's irrelevant), but to base my actions on the assumption that the bed could be there is totally pointless.
That's not what I said. I said that to assume that there is a bed is pointless, and that acting as if there was one is equally pointless.Danzaivar said:It's deciding that their isn't enough evidence to come to a conclusion.Tharwen said:I don't see the point of agnosticism. I feel that, if there's so little evidence that you're limited to pondering the very existence of a god, you might as well go the whole way and take it for granted that it doesn't exist.
A similar example would be being agnostic about whether or not there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine. Yes, I can never be sure without going in there and checking (and, realistically, not even then, but that's irrelevant), but to base my actions on the assumption that the bed could be there is totally pointless.
You have schrodingers bed in the other room and in your mind you simply MUST decide that there is a bed in there or there is no bed in there. The agnostic atheist just has the balls to put their hands in the air and admit "We don't know".
Proudly proclaiming there is a bed or there is no bed without checking just makes you look a bit silly.
So the only logical action is to think that any room you haven't been in doesn't have a bed in it?Tharwen said:That's not what I said. I said that to assume that there is a bed is pointless, and that acting as if there was one is equally pointless.Danzaivar said:It's deciding that their isn't enough evidence to come to a conclusion.Tharwen said:I don't see the point of agnosticism. I feel that, if there's so little evidence that you're limited to pondering the very existence of a god, you might as well go the whole way and take it for granted that it doesn't exist.
A similar example would be being agnostic about whether or not there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine. Yes, I can never be sure without going in there and checking (and, realistically, not even then, but that's irrelevant), but to base my actions on the assumption that the bed could be there is totally pointless.
You have schrodingers bed in the other room and in your mind you simply MUST decide that there is a bed in there or there is no bed in there. The agnostic atheist just has the balls to put their hands in the air and admit "We don't know".
Proudly proclaiming there is a bed or there is no bed without checking just makes you look a bit silly.
Pretty much this.AxCx said:Nope. Cause I dont poke fun at peoples beliefes.
If you want to, thats fine, but stop acting all surprised when someone mentions that athiests are assholes.
And that is part of what Pastafarianism is meant to make us think of: Tell me, what makes Pastafarianism someone else's joke, and Judeism, Buddihism or Christianity a profound, enlightening belief?Soylent Bacon said:There's a difference between a profound, enlightening belief and a bunch of kids repeating someone else's joke until everyone else gets sick of hearing it.
So satirists are assholes now are they? Pastafariansim is no more offensive, nor less necessary then political political cartoon satirists.AxCx said:Nope. Cause I dont poke fun at peoples beliefes.
If you want to, thats fine, but stop acting all surprised when someone mentions that athiests are assholes.
interspark said:i do and it most certainly isnt! the point of pastafarianism is to put other religions in perspective! even if there is a god, the idea of him/her visiting the earth (like in the bible) is VERY far-fetched, so all religion is is people's views on "god". long story short, it's all made up! (but not necessarily wrong), and the fact that it's ridiculous just emphasise this point.... ehhh look you should probably look it up on wiki, that would explain it better than i couldEcher123 said:And you...do?interspark said:Simple enough question, are you a Pastafarian and what are your views on it?
I would be but i live with my mum and I dought she'd take it seriously
I thought pastafarianism was just a joke.
I did. I got <link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody_religion>this. Seriously, it's a joke religion meant to poke fun at people. Stop treating it like anything else.interspark said:Simple enough question, are you a Pastafarian and what are your views on it?
I would be but i live with my mum and I dought she'd take it seriously
EDIT: sorry, if i could just clear this up now, Pastafarianism is NOT a joke, it's a religion like any other! THATS THE WHOLE POINT! *sigh* just look it up on wiki
To be fair making fun is hardly that bad.AxCx said:Well, thats kinda the point. You are right, of course. But I wasnt speaking of challenging people. Pastafarianism is just downright making fun of them.Ampersand said:I find that when i challenge peoples beliefs I only get told to fuck off by people who can't defend themselves with reasoned arguments......or people who haven't had enough sleep.AxCx said:Sure it is.Klumpfot said:Isn't it exactly as bigoted to say that all atheists are assholes as it would be to say that all christians/muslims/belgians are? They're all just people, and anyone who says that about almost any other group is a bigot. Right?AxCx said:Nope. Cause I dont poke fun at peoples beliefes.
If you want to, thats fine, but stop acting all surprised when someone mentions that athiests are assholes.
As for the question regarding belief in the FSM, no. He was killed by Her Royal Highness, the Invisible Pink Unicorn. I have no opinion on whether or not this was justified.
What I meant was that its no wonder christians or muslims get pissed off when you stand in the corner laughing at them saying "lolz they havent found the true pasta saviour yet".
I mean, put on your trollface and get on there nuts, by all means. But dont get on there nuts and then scream "OH GAWD THESE PEOPLE ARE SO MEAN AND NASTY" when they tell you to fuck off.
I cant believe so many people find it so hard to grasp what im saying. Has my english gotten worse, or are you guys just as militant about your athiesm as rednecks are about there christianity?