Poll: Pastafarianism

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

Perhaps there is an FSM, somewhere in this relatively infinite universe, but I wouldn't build a religion out of it myself. Maybe just want to kill it and its kin for harvest of the sweet sweet spaghetti entrails.

I find atheists who use this argument as an endall-beall argument to put off Christians in the same light I see hardcore vegans who freak out when someone tells them they eat meat. I have no issue with your beliefs, nor do I care what you believe. It is your right to believe whatever you wish. When it becomes wrong is when you believe you can tell me what my beliefs should be or how I should live my life. It is the very definition of rude and insulting (especially when I have people much younger than me get in my face over certain beliefs/eating habits... good god I want to strangle them.)

 

[interspark]

So what you're saying is.... you think it makes you cool to seriously believe that all religions are stupid and foolish and need to realize how ridiculous they are?

Which is just as bad as a preacher walking door to door yelling at people to convert.

So, as said above, don't get angry when people call atheists douche bags. You really wanna prove you're way of life is better? Then be an atheist who doesn't spout of his beliefs unless asked by someone "What do you believe?" or some such form.

no, that isn't what i'm saying in the slightest! everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief, whether they want to worship a 2000 year old carpenter or a flying ball of spaghetti. yes, i think it's ridiculous but i wouldnt go and tell a confident believer that because it would be extreemly rude and stupid!

 

[d3structor]

Pastafarianism came about when the school board wanted to put creationism in the curriculum in Kansas. This dude didn't like the fact that religion was going to be taught in the science classes and basically said "if you teach that then you have to teach this as well" and so Pastafarianism was created.

The schools dropped creationism after that whole fiasco and now it is mostly normal.

edit: ninja'd someone for the first time

 

[Glerken]

Nope. Cause I dont poke fun at peoples beliefes.

If you want to, thats fine, but stop acting all surprised when someone mentions that athiests are assholes.

Pastafarianism was made not to poke fun at people's beliefs, but as a statement against the Kansas school board voting on teaching Creationism alongside Evolution in the schools.

Read the letter Bobby Henderson wrote to them. He wasn't creating a mock-religion, he was making a legitimate point.

Oh, and yes I will be surprised and pissed off when anyone generalizes any group of people. Especially one that I am a part of.

 

[Deacon Cole]

I can think of better ways to mock religious beliefs. Such as just reading the crap people actually believe to them. I don't think they know how absurd their beliefs are.

 

[interspark]

Simple enough question, are you a Pastafarian and what are your views on it?

I would be but i live with my mum and I dought she'd take it seriously

EDIT: sorry, if i could just clear this up now, Pastafarianism is NOT a joke, it's a religion like any other! THATS THE WHOLE POINT! *sigh* just look it up on wiki

I did. I got <link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody_religion>this. Seriously, it's a joke religion meant to poke fun at people. Stop treating it like anything else.

i think you'll find <link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster>this to be a bit more informative, and you're very mistaken it is certainly NOT made to poke fun at people and ISNT a joke religion

 

[Glerken]

Simple enough question, are you a Pastafarian and what are your views on it?

I would be but i live with my mum and I dought she'd take it seriously

EDIT: sorry, if i could just clear this up now, Pastafarianism is NOT a joke, it's a religion like any other! THATS THE WHOLE POINT! *sigh* just look it up on wiki

I did. I got <link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody_religion>this. Seriously, it's a joke religion meant to poke fun at people. Stop treating it like anything else.

i think you'll find <link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster>this to be a bit more informative, and you're very mistaken it is certainly NOT made to poke fun at people and ISNT a joke religion

Dude, sorry to say this, but you're not helping.
It is annoying as hell well people just keep repeating jokes they heard other people say. You're a bit late to the party with Pastafarianism.

lacktheknack, read my post or d3structor's and that's what it was really about, because it wasn't made to be a joke religion, or poking fun of religion.
Unfortunately, after that it just blew up and became an annoying internet fad that people keep repeating trying to be funny.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

Wow, I'd never think I'd see something like this. You know what we have here guys? A fundamentalist Pastafarian. This is truly the start of a new era.

OT: Nope, I'm an agnostic atheist. I appreciate the FSM argument but I recognize it for what it is: a satire on why religious beliefs shouldn't be taught alongside scientific theories.

 

[kikon9]

I more just integrated the FSM into the cthulhu mythos. I'm a cthulhite if you didn't realize.

 

[d3structor]

snip

agreed

I was raised in kansas for a good portion of my childhood so this was really scary for me.

 

[Tharwen]

I don't see the point of agnosticism. I feel that, if there's so little evidence that you're limited to pondering the very existence of a god, you might as well go the whole way and take it for granted that it doesn't exist.

A similar example would be being agnostic about whether or not there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine. Yes, I can never be sure without going in there and checking (and, realistically, not even then, but that's irrelevant), but to base my actions on the assumption that the bed could be there is totally pointless.

It's deciding that their isn't enough evidence to come to a conclusion.

You have schrodingers bed in the other room and in your mind you simply MUST decide that there is a bed in there or there is no bed in there. The agnostic atheist just has the balls to put their hands in the air and admit "We don't know".

Proudly proclaiming there is a bed or there is no bed without checking just makes you look a bit silly.

That's not what I said. I said that to assume that there is a bed is pointless, and that acting as if there was one is equally pointless.

So the only logical action is to think that any room you haven't been in doesn't have a bed in it?

For something as unlikely as a grand four-poster bed or an omnipotent being, yes. There is absolutely no reason to assume that there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine.

 

[interspark]

Dude, sorry to say this, but you're not helping.
It is annoying as hell well people just keep repeating jokes they heard other people say. You're a bit late to the party with Pastafarianism.

lacktheknack, read my post or d3structor's and that's what it was really about, because it wasn't made to be a joke religion, or poking fun of religion.
Unfortunately, after that it just blew up and became an annoying internet fad that people keep repeating trying to be funny.

i'll say this again, pastafarianism is NOT a joke and i'm not trying to be funny! there are alot of profound and meaningful views behind pastafarianisms existance and meanings!

 

[Danzaivar]

I don't see the point of agnosticism. I feel that, if there's so little evidence that you're limited to pondering the very existence of a god, you might as well go the whole way and take it for granted that it doesn't exist.

A similar example would be being agnostic about whether or not there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine. Yes, I can never be sure without going in there and checking (and, realistically, not even then, but that's irrelevant), but to base my actions on the assumption that the bed could be there is totally pointless.

It's deciding that their isn't enough evidence to come to a conclusion.

You have schrodingers bed in the other room and in your mind you simply MUST decide that there is a bed in there or there is no bed in there. The agnostic atheist just has the balls to put their hands in the air and admit "We don't know".

Proudly proclaiming there is a bed or there is no bed without checking just makes you look a bit silly.

That's not what I said. I said that to assume that there is a bed is pointless, and that acting as if there was one is equally pointless.

So the only logical action is to think that any room you haven't been in doesn't have a bed in it?

For something as unlikely as a grand four-poster bed or an omnipotent being, yes. There is absolutely no reason to assume that there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine.

Well if you have so much faith without the need for evidence, I envy you.

 

[Tharwen]

I don't see the point of agnosticism. I feel that, if there's so little evidence that you're limited to pondering the very existence of a god, you might as well go the whole way and take it for granted that it doesn't exist.

A similar example would be being agnostic about whether or not there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine. Yes, I can never be sure without going in there and checking (and, realistically, not even then, but that's irrelevant), but to base my actions on the assumption that the bed could be there is totally pointless.

It's deciding that their isn't enough evidence to come to a conclusion.

You have schrodingers bed in the other room and in your mind you simply MUST decide that there is a bed in there or there is no bed in there. The agnostic atheist just has the balls to put their hands in the air and admit "We don't know".

Proudly proclaiming there is a bed or there is no bed without checking just makes you look a bit silly.

That's not what I said. I said that to assume that there is a bed is pointless, and that acting as if there was one is equally pointless.

So the only logical action is to think that any room you haven't been in doesn't have a bed in it?

For something as unlikely as a grand four-poster bed or an omnipotent being, yes. There is absolutely no reason to assume that there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine.

Well if you have so much faith without the need for evidence, I envy you.

You're saying you need evidence for something not to exist?

 

[Danzaivar]

I don't see the point of agnosticism. I feel that, if there's so little evidence that you're limited to pondering the very existence of a god, you might as well go the whole way and take it for granted that it doesn't exist.

A similar example would be being agnostic about whether or not there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine. Yes, I can never be sure without going in there and checking (and, realistically, not even then, but that's irrelevant), but to base my actions on the assumption that the bed could be there is totally pointless.

It's deciding that their isn't enough evidence to come to a conclusion.

You have schrodingers bed in the other room and in your mind you simply MUST decide that there is a bed in there or there is no bed in there. The agnostic atheist just has the balls to put their hands in the air and admit "We don't know".

Proudly proclaiming there is a bed or there is no bed without checking just makes you look a bit silly.

That's not what I said. I said that to assume that there is a bed is pointless, and that acting as if there was one is equally pointless.

So the only logical action is to think that any room you haven't been in doesn't have a bed in it?

For something as unlikely as a grand four-poster bed or an omnipotent being, yes. There is absolutely no reason to assume that there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine.

Well if you have so much faith without the need for evidence, I envy you.

You're saying you need evidence for something not to exist?

No, I just need evidence to draw a conclusion one way or the other. That was the whole point of the age of enlightenment!

 

[Tharwen]

I don't see the point of agnosticism. I feel that, if there's so little evidence that you're limited to pondering the very existence of a god, you might as well go the whole way and take it for granted that it doesn't exist.

A similar example would be being agnostic about whether or not there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine. Yes, I can never be sure without going in there and checking (and, realistically, not even then, but that's irrelevant), but to base my actions on the assumption that the bed could be there is totally pointless.

It's deciding that their isn't enough evidence to come to a conclusion.

You have schrodingers bed in the other room and in your mind you simply MUST decide that there is a bed in there or there is no bed in there. The agnostic atheist just has the balls to put their hands in the air and admit "We don't know".

Proudly proclaiming there is a bed or there is no bed without checking just makes you look a bit silly.

That's not what I said. I said that to assume that there is a bed is pointless, and that acting as if there was one is equally pointless.

So the only logical action is to think that any room you haven't been in doesn't have a bed in it?

For something as unlikely as a grand four-poster bed or an omnipotent being, yes. There is absolutely no reason to assume that there is a four-poster bed in the room next to mine.

Well if you have so much faith without the need for evidence, I envy you.

You're saying you need evidence for something not to exist?

No, I just need evidence to draw a conclusion one way or the other. That was the whole point of the age of enlightenment!

Isn't that basically the same...?

 

[Wired_Head]

Isn't it exactly as bigoted to say that all atheists are assholes as it would be to say that all christians/muslims/belgians are?

*Sigh* I hate when Belgians show up at my door at 9 in the morning on a sunday asking me if I have invited belgian waffles into my breakfast. And they want to teach Poirotismes in school!

 

[Danzaivar]

No, I just need evidence to draw a conclusion one way or the other. That was the whole point of the age of enlightenment!

Isn't that basically the same...?

Not in the slightest.

 

[Zeetchmen]

I <3 being Pastafarian

It makes as much sense as any other relgion

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

Dude, sorry to say this, but you're not helping.
It is annoying as hell well people just keep repeating jokes they heard other people say. You're a bit late to the party with Pastafarianism.

lacktheknack, read my post or d3structor's and that's what it was really about, because it wasn't made to be a joke religion, or poking fun of religion.
Unfortunately, after that it just blew up and became an annoying internet fad that people keep repeating trying to be funny.

i'll say this again, pastafarianism is NOT a joke and i'm not trying to be funny! there are alot of profound and meaningful views behind pastafarianisms existance and meanings!

You realize that you are not really helping your arguement that much by being so vague. What about Pastafarianism makes it so profound and meaningful? The things that it teaches you from its holy book? Or it being used as an example of the ridculousness to teach intelligent design alongside the theory of evolution in science class? You have to specify otherwise people are going to get the wrong impression.