If you think that is bad in Ireland if a burgular comes into your house and injures themselves on your property they have the right to sue you!!!Sulu said:
Poll: Poll: Shall we allow deadly force on a burgular?
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I'm of the view that anyone in act of committing a violent crime has forfeited their own rights just as they have forfeited the rights of others. It's a basic fairness that scales from the schoolyard through to international relations.
Especially in an uncertain situation such as a home invasion. Saying "Oh, murder isn't justified against theft" misses the point. The home owner has no idea why the trespasser is there, only that they've broken and entered.
Especially in an uncertain situation such as a home invasion. Saying "Oh, murder isn't justified against theft" misses the point. The home owner has no idea why the trespasser is there, only that they've broken and entered.
That is incredibly flawed. It's his or her own fault that they were on my own foggin property in the first place; why should you have to pay for their buffoonery? Their bungled burglarizing, as it were.Glademaster said:
Agreed. They made their choice, and you made yours. Simple as that. If one happens to be poor and down on their luck, there happens to be quite a few legal alternatives to burglary.Suiseiseki IRL said:
I from Florida, U.S.A, where its a Stand Your Ground State, you are allowed to use lethal force against intruders in your home and not be charged unless the police suspect it was not merely self defense. And the thing is that this is psychological more than anything else because the thing with criminals is that their lives depend on correctly judging whether or not a victim can defend him or her self. If they know that they can be killed for entering a persons home they will be less likely to take that risk. Can they still break into your home and kill you? Ya, but that right to defend yourself with whatever means at hands is one more detterent against them.
As far as I'm concerned, if someone is in my house unlawfully and I don't know what their intentions are, use of lethal force is acceptable in order to protect myself and my family. Although I would go armed, I would try to get them out the house without having to resort to violence. For example I would say "I've already called the police and they will be here any minute. I am armed so leave now."
*facepalm* you're kidding right? Please tell me you're kidding.Cargando said:
OT: In most cases a burgler is going to be armed. Also, if some guy tries to steal your shit, what are you supposed to do, subdue him? That's extremely difficult, especially if he's armed or stronger than you are, and he's probably not going to use the same courtesy on you. If there's a stranger in your house with criminal intent it's stupid to go at them unarmed in ANY case, and I don't know anyone who can survive being stabbed in the neck. I would consider it an extension of self defense. So yes, someone should be allowed to kill a burglar.
I think so. If someone breaks into a person's house, they should at least be aware that they are risking their lives if they want to invade someone's privacy and steal their property.
Ye it is extremely bad but it does happen although I think they are in the process of changing it at the moment.G1eet said:
Attacking them before they attack you I can understand but stabbing someone to death without any better reason other than them stealing something that can be replaced...no. What makes anyone a better person than those burglars if you murder them without good cause. And don't tell me stealing your stuff is good cause, it's a bullshit excuse.
In Florida, we have the Castle/Domain Law. In other words, if you come in MY house, threatening MY family, I have the legal right to blow your head off. If we did not have the right to defend ourselves we might as well be sheep or cattle.
Anyone who attempts to rob another person's home has basically signed their own death warrant, they get exactly what they deserve when they get shot or stabbed. Protect yourself, don't expect a cop to do it for you, your likelihood of surviving goes down sharply if you are too scared to save your own life. Arm yourself!
No person who breaks into my house is gonna make it away unscathed, I intent to make them die in my house in the process, I'll likely be saving many other victims in the future.
No person who breaks into my house is gonna make it away unscathed, I intent to make them die in my house in the process, I'll likely be saving many other victims in the future.
This is the most idiotic mindset I have seen in a while. You think you can talk a hardened criminal out of robbing or murdering you? You think that in the matter of 3 to 5 seconds you can figure out the mindset and intent of someone who likely intends to do serious harm to you? I hope you don't live in a house without some serious deadbolts because your time on this planet would be short in a real robbery.Hardcore_gamer said:
This is exactly how I feel about the situation, save yourself, don't expect others to do it.