Poll: Public Execution

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Supreme Unleaded

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Lord S. Binkleheimer said:
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Mcface said:
I wish it would.
A single bullet to the dome = about 25 cents.

Years and Years of keeping a convicted child rapist or murder = $232.7 million per year. (in ONE state!)

I think its pretty obvious.
Arent 9mm Bullets about $2 a pop now, it would take alot more then .25 to excacute someone, but I know an even cheaper way.

"Before he was hung from the gallows high, he yelled pleas for mercy. They stopped after a quick drop. And a sudden stop." Cookie for the reference.
Meh use a .50

It costs more, like $5-$10 I believe.
But I want to see someone survive being shot by a .50 from any distance under 100 meters by a Barret.
No, im pretty sure it's $2, my friend baught a bunch recently and he said it was $2, of course this is in NH, but anyway, why would you want to waste the extra money on bigger bullets when a 9mm to the face would kill you anyway.
 

Flying Dagger

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Our ancestors also used to burn people for heresy and execute for theft, you think we should adopt that too? Murder for murder doesn't work. If you said lashing, I'd still disagree but I'd be more likely to agree with you than this one.
don't forget burning people for being witches, that was a death penalty too.
 

PxDn Ninja

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I'm for it, however the third option has me confused. How can it be a public execution if it is private?
 

Internet Kraken

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PxDn Ninja said:
I'm for it, however the third option has me confused. How can it be a public execution if it is private?
TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
EcoEclipse said:
TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
Note: Edited the post to include a "Only if it is private option"
That defeats the purpose of it being a public execution.
I relize this, but alot of people where saying "executions yes public no" So I though adding that option so they could be heard aswell
There's your answer.

bobknowsall said:
Oh hooray, another flame-bait topic. Is it just me, or are these on the rise lately?
I haven't noticed anymore than usual.
 

ChromeAlchemist

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Flying Dagger said:
ChromeAlchemist said:
Our ancestors also used to burn people for heresy and execute for theft, you think we should adopt that too? Murder for murder doesn't work. If you said lashing, I'd still disagree but I'd be more likely to agree with you than this one.
don't forget burning people for being witches, that was a death penalty too.
Yeah, but potato(e) pot(A)to, similar thing.
 

Jinx_Dragon

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Mcface said:
I wish it would.
A single bullet to the dome = about 25 cents.

Years and Years of keeping a convicted child rapist or murder = $232.7 million per year. (in ONE state!)

I think its pretty obvious.
Back when they thought like this they would just take you out of the court room and the next day they would hang you. They did it for lots of crimes, such as stealing one horse, cause they all believed that it was deterrent. People still stole horses, raped and murdered and the vast majority of people got away with it.... while a good deal of people who where 'just the wrong colour' where lynched instead.

Now even when we became more 'civilised' there where hundreds of people on death row for crimes they had not committed. The invention of DNA evidence would free so many people it isn't funny, clearly showing a flaw in the system itself.

So in efforts to not murder innocent people mandatory appeals where put in place. Simply put the courts could not refuse to listen to an appeal of a person who has been convicted of murder... there are easily half a dozen applicant courts. Now even the guilty know very well if they file all appeals it can take DECADES to actually be punished. Most will die of old age before they are executed and clearly use this to their advantage.

Now who do you think pays for all the applicant courts and of course keeping the person imprisoned waiting for the re-trails?

Yet we can't change the system, we have proven it works too well to keep the majority (not all but most) of innocent people from being executed. A person could not truly say they are for justice and support a system where innocent people are likely to be killed, maybe at a higher rate, as the guilty. If you are going to support killing innocent people then how can you be sure you wont' one day be executed for a crime you didn't commit.

For that matter how can you refuse to call yourself a murderer, you are supporting murder of innocent people after all.

The cost of death penalty, thanks to this system, now FAR out reach the cost of just holding them in prison till the end of their natural lives. The execution itself isn't expensive, no, but ensuring we have someone who has even a slightly higher probability of being guilty over innocent sure is....

PS: It is very easy to be found guilty of a crime under the US justice system, this is because of juries. Juries know nothing of laws, they can't tell when people are lying and they can be swayed by emotional responses. With prosecuted being rated on 'cases won' many have no qualms about using emotional responses to get a conviction. They will put people on the stand who have a invested interest to see the defendant take the fall. They will over look inconvenient little truths that might bring reasonable doubt in hopes the defendant lawyer, often someone juggling a dozen cases and working for peanuts, will not realise.

Sadly the vast majority of murder cases are convicted on circumstantial evidence. Keep that in mind if you are for the death penalty: They are usually guilty of nothing more then being close to the crime scene at the time of the murder. Very few people confess or are caught with the bloody knife in their hands.

If you support a system that kills innocent people then you are a murderer.
 

brighteye

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"Our ancestors used to exicute people publicaly for crime. It served as a warning as well as the ultimate detterent. "

Not only our ancestors, they still do in some countries, like China and Iran to name a couple.
Yet somehow, rape and murder still seems to go on (they also hang people for drugs and tax evasion).

Well if they are ineffective to deter from furter serious crime what good are they ?

In my opinion the biggest lesson you learn from them is as earlier stated:
"Tell the world that killing people is acceptable if you think you have a good reason"

That brings an society with less caring people and a possible breeding ground for extreme religion or extreme belief in the infallability of the state (yet again China and Iran ).

Well, look at those two countries all of you who chose "YES", wich country is it you want most ?
 

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I think private excecutions are the way to go. mainly for a couple of reasons.

1) I'd like to think we have evolved a little bit above the savage level (we aren't that much.. but just a bit)

2) Jails are not efficient, they cost a shit load of money to run, and then how many of those people when they get out of jail do another offense? Probably alot.

3) I'd only agree to the death sentence on SERIOUS offences, as in 1 rape would call for jail but 2+ equal Death. with murder, it's a life for a life tho so open season. ALSO there should be a buffer time of 5 years for new evidence to turn up.

4) We are screwing up nature with the whole "Fuck you natural selection!" I don't want the sick and twisted to procreate. they should die, or be sterilized and be imprisoned for life.

Yarr Arm the shields, hide the flammables. It's about to get hot @_@
 

Mcface

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Chicago Ted said:
Mcface said:
I wish it would.
A single bullet to the dome = about 25 cents.

Years and Years of keeping a convicted child rapist or murder = $232.7 million per year. (in ONE state!)

I think its pretty obvious.
I would like to know where the fuck you pulled that statistic from.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty
 

Deadpoolsbrain

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Public revenge would not be a good thing. I do however think humiliation punishments like the stocks would be a great deterrent of crime.
 

Mcupobob

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Yes,we should kill people who are unmentaly fit and who commite acts unspeakable in socity. Its not about revenage it's about safty, I don't belive in rewarding a murder and rapist with free room and board,healthcare, and three square meales a day its just not worth the effort.
Mcface said:
A single bullet to the dome = about 25 cents.
where do buy your bullets?

OT. Not in public death is personal and a public exucuton sound appealing oh and only if the person is at least 90% found gulilty and goes through a year of trails.



Internet Kraken said:
No

The death penalty is stupid. It has no point. Nobody commits such a serious crime like murder thinking that they will get caught, so the death penalty is in ineffective deterrent against crime. Plus you never know if someone is 100% guilty. There is always room for error. If you find out that the person you just killed did not actually commit the crime, what happens then?

I really don't see why people approve of the death penalty.
If they don't think they won't get caught then why do they hide the bodie and evdince?
 

Froobyx

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I feel like it's the best way to get rid of the ones that are in there for long term sentances/ gonna die there anyways.

Just using up tax payers money on someone who's gonna spend the rest of their life in jail.

You know, cos British prisons are already over crowded...
 

PxDn Ninja

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Internet Kraken said:
PxDn Ninja said:
I'm for it, however the third option has me confused. How can it be a public execution if it is private?
TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
EcoEclipse said:
TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
Note: Edited the post to include a "Only if it is private option"
That defeats the purpose of it being a public execution.
I relize this, but alot of people where saying "executions yes public no" So I though adding that option so they could be heard aswell
There's your answer.

bobknowsall said:
Oh hooray, another flame-bait topic. Is it just me, or are these on the rise lately?
I haven't noticed anymore than usual.
Oh, well see. That is what happens when you read the first post and then post a question lol. Perhaps now I have learned to read before I post.
 

dsau

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eh... fuck it why not. if people love to watch SAW then why not let them see the real thing.

*sigh* i thought romes collapse would have taught us a lesson...
 

Internet Kraken

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Mcupobob said:
Internet Kraken said:
No

The death penalty is stupid. It has no point. Nobody commits such a serious crime like murder thinking that they will get caught, so the death penalty is in ineffective deterrent against crime. Plus you never know if someone is 100% guilty. There is always room for error. If you find out that the person you just killed did not actually commit the crime, what happens then?

I really don't see why people approve of the death penalty.
If they don't think they won't get caught then why do they hide the bodie and evdince?
"If they don't think they won't"

What? Do you mean "If they think they won't".

And to answer your question, there are few people that are dumb enough to think they can get away with murder if they leave the evidence lying out in the open. Of course they dispose of the evidence. If they didn't that would increase their chances of being caught. If they knew that they were going to be caught, like you suggest, then why would they even bother to hide the evidence?
 

Hallow'sEve

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No, but I don't think we should keep them in comfy prisons either. Let them mine for diamonds in Arizona in a work camp for the rest of their life.
(Either that or exile to an island)