Poll: Send Your Troops Home, America

[WildManBill]

Normally, being an American, I would say something along the lines of "pissing off the most powerfull nation in the world probably isn't a good idea" but to be honest, I really don't know what to think anymore. Although, you can never win a war by running away. Argue all you want, about living to fight another day, but no matter what, the victors are those who stay. I think I will sum it all up with "I am no longer "Proud" to be an American, I am only just ok with it now." Shame really.

 

[JWAN]

Also, America's populace sucks"

Uh, maybe you suck, but I sure as hell don't.
Keep me out of your weird self-hatred thing.

Anyway, if it's costing that much, why the hell are we keeping troops all over the place?

It's not like it's making anyone hate us less.
So withdraw all of our troops - if things get worse, maybe people will see that they were doing some good.
If things get better, people will continue to hate America, but at least we'll be in marginally less massive debt.

I agree with this.

I'm pretty patriotic, and I love my country and what we fight for (freedom), but we need to keep our noses out of other people's asses. Until it's neccessary, of course.

If someones threatens us or attacks us were going to find you and kill you and within 24 hours we will be in your country dismantling your military at 2700 fps.

..what are you getting at?

Self defense is self defense. Afghanistan was run by the Taliban, they attacked the WTC in '93 and its believed that they were also responsible for attacking the USS Cole. Us thinking that if we laid off they would lay off so we did, then they attacked the WTC the second time, leveling it. I say fuck that strategy, if they want a fight take it to them and blow the shit out of them before they make good on their promise.
Ending an issue before it becomes a catastrophe is another good way to put it.
That's why I think we should stick around in South Korea, North Korea has already tried to Ninja the south by tunneling under the DMZ and its a good thing the tunnels were discovered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Demilitarized_Zone#Incursion_tunnels

I should have said 2,756 ft/s that's a little more accurate.

 

[JWAN]

What, may I ask, are all these soldiers to do if not occupying foreign countries? Its not like we have a surplus of jobs back here at home...

Watch gardening programs on the TV, or possibly episodes of Masterchef on BBC iPlayer (if you get that). It sure beats sitting in a hot desert being shot at all day by people who hate your guts.

Why do people always seem to forget that all US troops are volunteers?

I don't see what that has to do with my post. My point is that there are better things to do than be fighting pointless, dangerous and costly wars miles from home - voluteers or not.

pointless? can you elaborate?

 

[SilentHunter7]

Really? You want the states to give up US soil. Becuase all bases are techuncally part of the US.

Meaning you've invaded and stolen land from other people.

Excuse me???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland

 

[Satin6T]

i'm gonna go ahead and assume the vast majority of you hate america,
I love america and i'm proud to be an american

Spoiler

While I love America too, I, in no way supported Bush.
You should not make the two equivalent.

/You're probably just trolling the Europeans though

I'm not making the it equivilant
believe me I'm not, I know why lots of people hate him

but I didn't lose my respect for Bush until he started giving money to banks

 

[chronobreak]

they haven't won ANY wars EVER!

Care to elaborate? Do you not know how America even gained it's independence? The Revolutionary War, Spanish-American War, and Mexican-American war spring to mind, unless you want to count the wars we helped other people win.

You're right, we didn't win The Revolutionary war, The War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, Philippine-American War, WW1, WW2, The Cold War, The Persian Gulf War, ect.

Ninja'd.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

A lot of you might not realize that removing U.S. bases from every foreign country would basically remove our force projection ability completely. Which means no relief efforts after tsunamis [http://www.pacom.mil/special/0412asia/index.shtml], no defending against modern-day pirates [http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE53A1LP20090412], no earthquake recovery assistance [http://www.southcom.mil/AppsSC/news.php?storyId=1528]. And if an ally suddenly finds that an enemy force is in their country, killing their mans, and asks us for help? No can do, guys, we can't get anyone over there.

Really, if you think having us around is bad, imagine what not having us around would be like.

 

[T3h Camp3r T3rr0r1st]

We're America! We own the world, god dammit. And who cares if we are in debt, we'll just nukem' all to hell!

Seriously though, we need to stop being such an asshole of a country. I can understand having bases for peacekeeping purposes in unstable countries, but I'm pretty sure countries like Britain can take care of themselves.

yeah gotta love american English...


OT: america should stay the fuck away from everywhere ALL of their last wars havn't been their wars, also they haven't won ANY wars EVER! that they have been in start to finish and even World War 2 wasn't a victory if you have to reduce a place to radioactive rubble.

You're right, we didn't win The Revolutionary war, The War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, Philippine-American War, WW1, WW2, The Cold War, The Persian Gulf War, ect.

every one else won your civil war (tee hee)

 

[hebdomad]

Yes it is true that some American bases provide security and stability for some regions around the world, and if they pulled out now, the power vacuum would be devastating.

The same goes for Russian and Chinese military bases as well... oh what was that? America is not the only super power? oh darn.

Get your heads out of the sand... the world IS bigger than just America people.

 

[Arcticflame]

None of those poll options - Depends on a case by case basis.

 

[Lexodus]

Really? You want the states to give up US soil. Becuase all bases are techuncally part of the US.

Meaning you've invaded and stolen land from other people.

Says the man with a UK flag. If anybody's guilty of invading and stealing foreign land....or is there some kind of statute of limitations for that?

Says the man with a USA flag.

Oh, whoopdee doo. Just because I was BORN in Britain and, as such, have a Union Jack on my profile page, instantly means I agree with every underhanded or violent move my country has ever made in the past.

 

[chronobreak]

every one else won your civil war (tee hee)

What does that even mean?

 

[HassEsser]

There aren't enough options. If there was one saying "9/11 was planned by America, and they should get the fuck out of The Middle East, and I am American. Also, America's populace sucks" I would check that in a second.

Does anyone mind if I bite on this one?

You have two choices, HassEsser, you can either PM me for the rest of this discussion, or go on to state exactly HOW the United States "planned" an attack on it's own country, in front of everyone. I'm not going to disrespect you, and I promise to take a real look at your arguments, and not flame you because I disagree, but I want to see your reasons. As you posted such a thing in this thread, I think it is fitting if we examine it.

I just can not believe how someone, after all this time, could still believe America killed over 3,000 of its own people to further some sort of political agenda.

Also, I think you are just kind of flaming America.

I would be more than happy to tell you. And I see no disrespect in you questioning me openly.

Let's start this off by talking about the planes. The planes were NOT commercial airlines, it was, in fact, a Military aircraft, and could have possibly been flown by no one (remotely). Some ways of telling is how there are no windows on the side. Commercial planes have windows, military do not. Also, it would have been infuriatingly more difficult to maneuver a commercial plane like a military plane.

Now, explosions: When a plane crashes into a giant tower, explosions don't just go off at the bottom of said tower, there has to be, what most refer to as, "Explosives." How did they get there? I'm saying it was planted by the U.S.

And, Motives: What else is there to say other than O I L . It was obvious we were running out, and it was obvious the Middle East had a bunch of it. So, Bush said something along the lines of, "Hmmm, I can't think of a reason to invade, so let's make one up!" Now, we have been there FAR too long, and there is virtually no reason we should be there, other than to anger more people, or to bring democracy, but I don't think guns will be necessary for that.

Now, I hope you can keep an open mind, and also consider how hard it is to hijack a plane, even before 9/11.

EDIT: And, yes, you could say I am "flaming America" (figuratively), after all, our society is so..... bad...... Disney Channel; MTV; huge ego's..... SCENE KIDS!!!

Need I say more?

 

[Lexodus]

Really? You want the states to give up US soil. Becuase all bases are techuncally part of the US.

Meaning you've invaded and stolen land from other people.

Excuse me???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland

Did I once say that I agreed with what my country has done in the past? No. Smagmuck, however, did.

 

[T3h Camp3r T3rr0r1st]

every one else won your civil war (tee hee)

What does that even mean?

yet another child lest behind...

Americans were killing Americans how can the world not win (!)

 

[Lexodus]

Really? You want the states to give up US soil. Becuase all bases are techuncally part of the US.

Meaning you've invaded and stolen land from other people.

Says the man with a UK flag. If anybody's guilty of invading and stealing foreign land....or is there some kind of statute of limitations for that?

Says the man with a USA flag.

Oh, whoopdee doo. Just because I was BORN in Britain and, as such, have a Union Jack on my profile page, instantly means I agree with every underhanded or violent move my country has ever made in the past.

Fair enough. But why point the finger at America then?

Actually, I was pointing at war in general. And the dude above who said that it was America's land, despite being in another country with its own government.