They're only overpowered if you have no idea how to play the game. Terrans can build strong defenses and have an emphasis on unit conservation, but they're all very weak in certain places. Just build a few roaches or a colossus, and the entire ground force will be pushing up daisies; and a decently-sized mutalisk swarm can lay waste to multiple battlecruisers.
Poll: Starcraft 2: Are Terrans overpowered?
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They dont need prisms or nydus, they got dropships. 'good' terran players will have towers or supply depots on the edges of their bases so they can easily see any warps/worms, and worms die FAST. its been shown that if you have 1 marauder on patrol, he can kill a worm EASILY within the 20 seconds they take to appear. Let alone sensor towers. I dont think they are a jack of all trades race anymore, they have maybe the most options for cheese, masters of defense AND offense with thors and siege tanks, stimmed MM balls can destroy buildings in SECONDS, and a large group of marines are probably the most cost effective strike force in the game (especially with enough medivacs to retreat them fast) Plus that new smart fire for tanks.. if only they did the same thing for zerglingRooker said:
I wouldn't say Terrans are overpowered but mid game they are basically invincible if they manage to get their mech build up and going and stimpak's are overkill when it comes to bio armies.
Marauder > roach, heck, a stimmed marine ball > roach, and you just wasted gas. Couple thors will keep those BC's safe and pwn roach behind the marines. So a smaller cheaper force can beat that. If you get Broods, couple vikings will fix them up fast, they could have 4-6 vikings out as soon as they see a greater spire going up.HT_Black said:
As for the first thing you said, even most SC2 professionals agree terran are slightly OP and zerg slightly UP, many zerg pro's are becoming terran now, even they're ease of use is a big advantage, alot less APM requirements.
out of all of the nerfs top 3 units got (roaches, immortals, marauders) marauders got nerfed the least and are now one of the best units in the game (aside from the whole no shooting air thing) they also have to infamous terran turtle, which I've seen win games... so yeah I'd say so.
That's interesting view. Kinda reminds me of the early days of Pro starcraft, where it was all protoss vs zerg, and terrans were thought to be a terrible race. Then came Boxer, Nada, Iloveoov, and others who showed how to play the race effectively.DarkDain said:
Here is a nice TvZ set that shows the races well. TLO (The Little One) usually plays random but is a fantastic terran player. Its a close and entertaining matchup, all five games. Take from it what you will
. http://www.youtube.com/user/HuskyStarcraft#p/u/13/yIcg0n-ZFmI
Edit: Don't know how to show the video, so here's a link.
watDormin111 said:
Vikings are the best AA unit in the game, and Battlecruisers win games. I'd say that heavy air is the most balanced part of the game across the board, aside from the Toss's critical mass Void Rays.
Terran are not OP, people just need to learn how to beat them. They're a very simplistic race that has very solid defense and offenses with nothing more than an a-move command. Does that make them OP? No. It just means that Zerg and Toss need to develop more complex strategies to win.
And that's where the fun comes in.
For example
BANELINGS. Use them, win.
TLO used to be random but he acknowledges himself that terran were extra powerful and so he uses them now. Those 3 terran players are just skilled players, they could of been good at any given race and have played for years now, patches followed to keep a balance. Similarly in korea, the dire hard zerg players, are switching over to terran because of the state of the zerg.Kuhkren said:That's interesting view. Kinda reminds me of the early days of Pro starcraft, where it was all protoss vs zerg, and terrans were thought to be a terrible race. Then came Boxer, Nada, Iloveoov, and others who showed how to play the race effectively.DarkDain said:
Here is a nice TvZ set that shows the races well. TLO (The Little One) usually plays random but is a fantastic terran player. Its a close and entertaining matchup, all five games. Take from it what you will
http://www.youtube.com/user/HuskyStarcraft#p/u/13/yIcg0n-ZFmI
Edit: Don't know how to show the video, so here's a link.
Some say they just lost the swarm identity and are less fun to play and require higher apm just to keep up. I've seen that video too, i've seen every video Husky and HD has ever released ;o along with some teamliquid videos, there was a nice long TvZ match TLO played, 4got who the zerg guy was, but they kind of agreed at the end, terran REALLY had many advantages. Zerg lost army after ultra army against terran metal and terrain advantages.
If there is some break-through zerg strategy that has not been found by all the zerg die hards and guilds that play endless games looking for them, rest assured they would release more balances later. As long as the terrans come up with enough detailed evidence while being drowned out by calls of QQ like the zerg have put up with on the forums. Cant be fun to compile a 7 page argument just to be told 'qq l2p' by a bronze terran lol (true sc2 stories!)
That would be frustrating to be told off by a bronze level terran :/ . I can see where you are coming from about the imbalances, we may be seeing some fixes in future patches. Figured it was more of a learning curve before, however I do now understand and concede to your stance. Looking forward to the HDH2 tournament, should have some fantastic matchesDarkDain said:
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Terrans aren't overpowered straight up because everything they can do can be countered. However, they ARE overpowered in that making a simple MMM ball and attack-moving it in the general direction of the enemy takes far less effort than effectively countering said MMM ball. Basically, they get handed an easy and powerful unit combo that most enemies have to jump through hoops to get rid of.
Marauder is the only really OP terran unit. it outmatches pretty much all protoss ground forces and in the early game, a big group of marauders would destroy a protoss army. we already know through campaign that they rape stalkers, but concussive shells prevent pretty much anything from reaching them early on, unless you rush the charge tech for zealots.
they are my sole complaint about terrans, everything else is well balanced.
they are my sole complaint about terrans, everything else is well balanced.
Well it wasnt all his 7 page argument, it was all the great posts scattered around the forum as well as insight from the top sc2 players. I 4got his name but one of the very top zerg professionals said he had too much obligation to his job and team to continue using the zerg, so he went terran. I mean think about it, when a all zerg focused player can do BETTER by switching races, it speaks volumesThat would be frustrating to be told off by a bronze level terran :/ . I can see where you are coming from about the imbalances, we may be seeing some fixes in future patches. Figured it was more of a learning curve before, however I do now understand and concede to your stance. Looking forward to the HDH2 tournament, should have some fantastic matches
he had to apologize to his zerg fans Did you see the most awesome match ever that HD did? Between master asia and some protoss player, was an hour long game, most epic. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374772370That's a real shame. I love watching zerg matches because of the speed and intensity of matches. Also why I used to main zerg in BW. No wonder why I haven't heard of the game, it came out yesterday and I was out all day XD. Gonna watch that bad boy right now, thanks!DarkDain said:Well it wasnt all his 7 page argument, it was all the great posts scattered around the forum as well as insight from the top sc2 players. I 4got his name but one of the very top zerg professionals said he had too much obligation to his job and team to continue using the zerg, so he went terran. I mean think about it, when a all zerg focused player can do BETTER by switching races, it speaks volumesThat would be frustrating to be told off by a bronze level terran :/ . I can see where you are coming from about the imbalances, we may be seeing some fixes in future patches. Figured it was more of a learning curve before, however I do now understand and concede to your stance. Looking forward to the HDH2 tournament, should have some fantastic matches
Marines and marauders are simply just powerful. If you're not quite prepared for them you've pretty much lost.
I play mainly Terran and have easily learned how to combat my own MMM tactics. Watch your replays and learn from your mistakes. They're not overpowered, you just need to learn how to play the game.
No. Blizzard put far too much time into beta testing and balance tweaks for anything to be overpowered. Heck, the game was in beta so long people started to forget it wasn't even out yet.
Acccctttuuuuaaaallly alot of pro sc2 players that played beta tried to tell blizzard that zerg were UP back then, but instead zerg were hit with a series of nerfs right before release, like nydus build time went from 10 to 20 seconds >< and once exposed to more people it became more evident. Even just looking at how user friendly the terran are makes them better than zerg. Even the computer zerg can almost never beat terran computer, at the very least two a.i.'s should be equally matched.Twilight_guy said: