Poll: Suicide - Your opinion
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I've taken the liberty of going to the only source I know as very much reliable for statistics: the book called "SUICIDE AND ATTEMPTED SUICIDE - METHODS AND CONSEQUENCES" by Geo Stone, published by Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc. New York.Housebroken Lunatic said:
Electrocution by way of high voltage (NOT house current)
LETHAL INTENT: High
MORTALITY: 40 to 90 percent
Drowning:
Percent lethal: 76%.
LETHAL INTENT IN DRUG OVERDOSE: Highly variable, from nil to very high.
And for your last question, I am male, suffering from a myriad of mental ilnesses and handicaps.
PERMANENT INJURIES: Moderately likely.
Fourty to ninety percent, and that's ONLY from really high currents. So I'd have to break into an electric box on the street and cause a whole neighbourhood a day or so without power?
Jumping
LETHAL INTENT: High
FATALITIES: 40 to 60 percent
PERMANENT INJURIES: Frequent
Note from me; any bridges around here are above water and are not very high. I don't live in a town like yours I bet.
There is no specific information on train tracks, but how about this quote?
"Similarly, ten-year follow-up on ninety-four people who survived the usually lethal procedure of jumping in front of a train found no higher suicide rates than those who had sur-
vived less lethal methods". That's 94 VERY unhappy people. Also, at the time (4 AM) there where no trains running.
It always seemed a bit cowardly to me, but sometimes there are things in life that can't be fixed so easily. I guess I'd call it a viable alternative.
I sincerely hope, however, that the person who thinks to commit suicide takes all they have and all the people that care about them they'd be hurting by doing the deed.
I sincerely hope, however, that the person who thinks to commit suicide takes all they have and all the people that care about them they'd be hurting by doing the deed.
The Holy God doesn't take suicidals in Heaven, actually. They go to hell, I think.Rudeboy4360 said:
It's very much an escapist's way of dealing with a simple problem. People can survive even the most devestating changes to their life, unless they die of course.
Seriously, THAT you are concerned about? That a neighbourhood might have to go a day or so without power?Kenjitsuka said:
You know, for an ex-suicidal fellow you seem very caring of the possible inconvenience that total strangers might suffer.
One would think that someone who have decided to kill themselves wouldn't bother caring about such trivial matters...
I only consider it alright if you area bout to experience pain far worse and die. To clarify, I see it as alright if a person is extremely sick and terminal to choose euthenasia in order to stop it. I don't see it as alright when that 16 year old kid, commits suicide because his girl friend broke up with him. If you have something to live for and do it, I see that person as a coward who wasted the greatest gift of all.
I have a couple different views on Suicide.
If you have some kind of illness and are going to die within the next couple months and don't want to be a burden on your family and pay a bunch of money to the hospital, then I don't blame you there. You are doing something to help your family when you finally do die.
If you are killing yourself just because you think your having a bad life, that is cowardly. I won't lie and say that I had never thought about it. I was in a horrible depression in high school and didn't think my life was even worth it. I couldn't stand my mom or my sister. Neither of my 'dads' wanted anything to do with me. I had only a couple friends at school and I only saw them at school. I was always in my room alone. I was just having a tough time but I didn't think it was enough to truly end my life.
The reason I am really against suicide is because my best friend attempted it a couple times. It pissed me off every time she attempted it. She would cut her wrist and lay on the bed while everyone freaked out and tried to help her. I guess that because of her, I see it as people trying to get attention. The last time she attempted it, I ran outside crying my eyes out because I couldn't believe she would be so selfish to try something that would take her away from me and her family. She is the closet person to me. I have decided that the next time she attempts it, because she has a husband and a child, if she really wants to die, I will break our 8 year friendship and tell her to do it. I find it extremely selfish and I can't stand people that will do it for attention or because their think their life is so tough. Get the fuck over it! Everyone's life is hard. What does not kill you only makes you stronger.
Okay... I feel better now.
If you have some kind of illness and are going to die within the next couple months and don't want to be a burden on your family and pay a bunch of money to the hospital, then I don't blame you there. You are doing something to help your family when you finally do die.
If you are killing yourself just because you think your having a bad life, that is cowardly. I won't lie and say that I had never thought about it. I was in a horrible depression in high school and didn't think my life was even worth it. I couldn't stand my mom or my sister. Neither of my 'dads' wanted anything to do with me. I had only a couple friends at school and I only saw them at school. I was always in my room alone. I was just having a tough time but I didn't think it was enough to truly end my life.
The reason I am really against suicide is because my best friend attempted it a couple times. It pissed me off every time she attempted it. She would cut her wrist and lay on the bed while everyone freaked out and tried to help her. I guess that because of her, I see it as people trying to get attention. The last time she attempted it, I ran outside crying my eyes out because I couldn't believe she would be so selfish to try something that would take her away from me and her family. She is the closet person to me. I have decided that the next time she attempts it, because she has a husband and a child, if she really wants to die, I will break our 8 year friendship and tell her to do it. I find it extremely selfish and I can't stand people that will do it for attention or because their think their life is so tough. Get the fuck over it! Everyone's life is hard. What does not kill you only makes you stronger.
Okay... I feel better now.
There are some(albeit very few(in my mind)) times when suicide is acceptable. Yes it may seem selfish but like you said, you never know what's going on inside someone else's mind. Like for instance if you are old, with no hope of recovery. I know you weren't aiming at assisted suicide, but here it is. Sorry.
I care too much about what strangers think, yes.Housebroken Lunatic said:
I don't want to inconvenience others, and go to great lenghts to not do so.
Stopping the agony that is my life should be as clean as possible, which is why I have devised a three tier, ten drug plan that's 200% guaranteed... Least gruesome and inconvenient to others that way.
And about caring, I'd do it again in a heartbeat if not for my mother. I held of many years the first time for that reason, but years of therapy with psychiatrists have only made my life worse. So in a rage I chose for myself, for once, instead of for others.
That's one point for all you who say people who commit suicide are selfish; the majority DO care way more than normal about others. How about no longer being a downer/leech of social welfare etc.?
I find it selfish, pathetic, idiotic.
For one, it's the easy way out. Once you're dead that's it, no more dealing with life's problems, instead running from them like a coward. Who has to deal with it all afterwards? Oh that's right, their family and friends.
It's also horrid to think that some people decide to kill themself when there's people in hospitals and other circumstances struggling for life due to a disease or a car crash or whatever that would love to stay alive.
It's also a waste of potential. Instead of killing themself they could just simply deal with their problems as best they can, and then perhaps attempt to do something constructive with their life.
I find the thought of someone killing themself disgusting and pathetic. There's no words to describe how much it angers me.
(Please note, I am talking about people with no mental disease or physical disease that want their REAL suffering to end, I'm more referring to people like for example pathetic little emo kids who cut their wrists because their parents make them do a lot of chores)
For one, it's the easy way out. Once you're dead that's it, no more dealing with life's problems, instead running from them like a coward. Who has to deal with it all afterwards? Oh that's right, their family and friends.
It's also horrid to think that some people decide to kill themself when there's people in hospitals and other circumstances struggling for life due to a disease or a car crash or whatever that would love to stay alive.
It's also a waste of potential. Instead of killing themself they could just simply deal with their problems as best they can, and then perhaps attempt to do something constructive with their life.
I find the thought of someone killing themself disgusting and pathetic. There's no words to describe how much it angers me.
(Please note, I am talking about people with no mental disease or physical disease that want their REAL suffering to end, I'm more referring to people like for example pathetic little emo kids who cut their wrists because their parents make them do a lot of chores)
