I always liked my grandfather's sentiment on suicide (teenage and depression linked not assisted) He once explained it as a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Poll: Suicide - Your opinion
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I find error in your logic. For you see, having a child is not the only commitment a person has, voluntary or not.Housebroken Lunatic said:
Sure, we might not choose to be born, but it is we who choose to have friends and associates, to live at some place, most of us choose to be employed. We choose to be part of the society and not a hermit in the middle of nowhere.
These are all things affect by a choice of suicide. So even without having a child there are plenty of reason to go on. There are friends, there is family. There is the police who has to look upon your body after your death, possible bystanders who see the results of your suicide or even a nice lady next door who will spend the next few nights sleepless over your death even if you never talked.
Yes, there are expectations others put to you. These can be the problem that leads to suicide, but that brings it back to my point: suicide is not the solution, it's the cop-out.
And you accuse me of oversimplification and that people are not just meant to solve problems they are presented with.
Oversimplified, yes they are. Any choice you make can be reduced to a problem. Oversimplified, the choice of taking a breath is solving a problem (of asphyxiation).
But the problems I meant in my earlier post are mostly those of economical, social or mental problems. "Where can I get the money to live next week? Why don't I have any friends? Why do I keep having nightmares?"
No healthy, mentally stable person with a decent economical situation just decides one day that "Well, this seems like a nice day to end it all. Goodbye world". There is some problem at the root, known or not, that the person is unwilling or unable to solve and leads the person not only contemplate suicide but also actually do it.
And that is my point: To not even try to solve the problems, to just give up, is stupid and idiotic. Because once you are dead there is no way to experience more things, to try new things out, to learn something new or to just have fun. You have to be alive to do these. And as long as you are alive, things can be changed for the better with work and effort.
EDIT: Oh, and about perspective? Naturally there are differing views and opinions on this subject. I just presented mine.
Suicide is for the weak and cowardly. Living through this life, vile as it is, is a sign of strength.
Cowardice. Taking the "easy" way out. No matter what your problem is, its only temporary. Eventually, it will resolve itself and suicide is not the answer.
Although, I can see where someone would want to die if, say, they were a vegetable. But that would be assissted suicide.
Although, I can see where someone would want to die if, say, they were a vegetable. But that would be assissted suicide.
Quite frank, i don't give a damn about whether it's brave or not. All I know is that many people kill themselves, and it could've been prevented. It's not acceptable that this happens, and I don't think people do enough to try and help people in these situations.
Usually it's just weak. You might be depressed, but it's not something you can't take.
But, if you're like, evil or sumthin but don't wanna get people killed and instead commit harakiri, that's honourable. Although the latter is somewhat unlikely.
But, if you're like, evil or sumthin but don't wanna get people killed and instead commit harakiri, that's honourable. Although the latter is somewhat unlikely.
Corrected.the_joker1112 said:
Your problem,
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Anyway, Suicide should always be thought about, all unfinished business must be finished.
All you nay sayers, have you even considered WHAT the reasons might be?the_joker1112 said:
If YOU yourself have been in a severe clinical depression for years, tried hard to overcome it, and are still suffering constantly suffering from mental ilness, THEN you can say that you're aware of what "problums" can BE. If that where the case you wouldn't drop such a line so easily.
Also, some people say "only if you're terminally ill".
I'd like to remind them that several psychiatric problems can't be cured either, so it would apply in a lot more cases than you would think.
By the way, is it just me or are a lot of people too lazy to actually read back a few pages before saying "cowardly" and skipping away?
May I add that I think people dismissing those who are depressed as "emo" are a very big part of the problem. I've seen far too many desperate people (especially online) abandoned because everyone thought they were emo. Sure, there are some people who are overdramatic, but isn't it worth humouring those people to make sure you don't leave those genuinely in need feeling even more like no-one cares?
I'm christian, so in my books suicide is the worst sin one may commit.... and not only because the Big Book says so, i also see suicide as supreme cowardice. I just can not think of anything in this world that would make one want to die.
Sure, sometimes life can suck monkey balls but still, things will get better, and if not, fuck it, start praying, doing good deeds and hope for the best.
Sure, sometimes life can suck monkey balls but still, things will get better, and if not, fuck it, start praying, doing good deeds and hope for the best.
Depends.
All I have to say is don't bother praying or going to some crazy ten steps group or some random drug.
Get psychiatric help,get help from a friend,try to find something that brings you joy.
But if nothing works, don't let everyone force you to bother with false hope.
Your life, your choice.
All I have to say is don't bother praying or going to some crazy ten steps group or some random drug.
Get psychiatric help,get help from a friend,try to find something that brings you joy.
But if nothing works, don't let everyone force you to bother with false hope.
Your life, your choice.