Poll: Suicide - Your opinion

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MaskedMori

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dark-amon said:
Suicide is an act of cowardice and selfishness. There is no excuse for it, there is nothing that may justify it. Only those who choose to run away or give up would end their lives. There is nothing noble or rightesous about it.
Thos who would consider suicide should remind themself that there are alwasy a choice, and that thet should choose to find and solve the despair that leads them.
This would be true, if life had any purpose or meaning. People's life are their own and they have a right to end it if they wish, as long as it stays within his life and his alone. Killing your family then yourself is selfish, unless they are willing... Which would probably never happen.
 

MaskedMori

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joshthor said:
i think suicide is a selfish thing. depends on the reason though. if they are depressed and cant see a way to make anything better - selfish. if they are suffering from a terminal illness i can see why they would choose that.
It's only selfish if it ends up destroying another person's life. (A child perhaps) Other than that I think it's up to the person if they want to live or die. Cut your ties before your necks. <--- That is going to go into my quote file... Definatly. ^_^
 

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Suicide is a really touchy subject. However, I believe that if you wanna commit suicide, go for it, just consider one thing: is your life really so down the toilet that you'd consider offing yourself? Hanging yourself or drowning yourself or throwing yourself off of a cliff takes BALLS, so all of the above need to be...worth it (if you catch my meaning and don't just see me as an asshole.)

I can understand those in the hospital who are suffering from everything but Alzheimer's, and all of the pain they are going through, and if there is no hope for them and they want to end their suffering, then they damn well should be allowed to do it themselves. It would make everyone happy: they don't have to feel catastrophic amounts of pain on a neverending basis, and doctors cannot be sued for malpractice, even if they assist in the self-offing.

(Personally, I would never kill myself: I have too much to live for, being but a young lad of 17, and am under the personal philosophy that there is a way out of ANY situation.)
 

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Jurassic Rob said:
Yes, imagine how unreasonable I am, when a friend of mine killed himself leaving his two children, both under 10 without a Dad!
Remember that in the majority of suicides, the depressed individual often believes they are doing others harm by remaining alive. To them, they are being selfish, and suicide is the way they can stop harming their loved ones. The idea that the suicidal only think of themselves could not possibly be more wrong.

No, it doesn't make sense to us, but we aren't the ones with the crippling mental illness. And it is an illness. Nobody blames cancer patients for giving in to the disease, but when Depression claims a life we persecute the victim. It doesn't show up in a blood test, but it's as real as any tumor. The unfortunate loss of so many people each year stands as a sober proof.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Terminally ill only, having to go through your body falling in disarray just wishing for death but are kept alive to suffer more is cruel.
 

Cali0602

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Insanum said:
Cali0602 said:
My unit is doing a bunch of briefs Marine Corps wide about suicide awareness and I'll tell you all the same thing I told the people giving the briefs.

"It is a screening process. Do not remove it!"
Slightly Confused - Could you elaborate?
Certainly...

Can you, reader, think of a time when you wanted to off yourself, either as a passing "omg I just want to die" or "christ, just make this stop"? Of course you can. Everyone has had suicidal "ideations" at some point or another, maybe multiple times.

But what really separates those who deserve life from those who don't is the will and fortitude to push through the hard times, the bullsh!t, the agony, and survive. So when I say "suicide is a screening process, don't remove it" I'm saying it weeds out those who deserve life from those who don't, cause there are plenty of people who want life but get it taken away.

I refer back to a very bad movie that had the best truth I've heard in a movie:
Leo DiCaprio: "I figure life's a gift and I don't intend on wasting it.."
(I can't believe I just quoted Titanic)
 

Custard_Angel

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The only time suicide is a viable option is in the event of a zombie apocalypse. Then, suicide is the best option next to survival. In non-zombie induced death you give the greatest gift to the remaining surviving. The gift of one less number to add to the ranks of the dead.
 

chris89

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I find it mostly Selfish, especially if it's commited or aided by Public transport, e.g. Underground network and the Railways as people don't relise what the drivers go through after hitting someone with their train, and the same for the Police, Clean up crews etc.
 

Textbook Bobcat

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I honestly believe that as long as the individual concerned puts no-one else in forseeable harm that it should be their decision to do as they wish.

If they genuinely have no desire to live anymore, then surely it's selfish of everyone they know to "guilt" them into staying alive.

Clearly if they have some responsibilities (I'm talking young children needing emotional support, not financial support for a wife) then a little extrovert thinking is required.

People that go out, kill themselves swiftly should be the victim of no ill judgment. Individuals that constantly threaten, take pills in "easy to find" locations and other such spineless attention seeking actions are certainly worthy of scorn.
 

Insanum

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Cali0602 said:
Insanum said:
Cali0602 said:
My unit is doing a bunch of briefs Marine Corps wide about suicide awareness and I'll tell you all the same thing I told the people giving the briefs.

"It is a screening process. Do not remove it!"
Slightly Confused - Could you elaborate?
Certainly...

Can you, reader, think of a time when you wanted to off yourself, either as a passing "omg I just want to die" or "christ, just make this stop"? Of course you can. Everyone has had suicidal "ideations" at some point or another, maybe multiple times.

But what really separates those who deserve life from those who don't is the will and fortitude to push through the hard times, the bullsh!t, the agony, and survive. So when I say "suicide is a screening process, don't remove it" I'm saying it weeds out those who deserve life from those who don't, cause there are plenty of people who want life but get it taken away.
I never looked at it that way...A self form of natural selection?
Cali0602 said:
I refer back to a very bad movie that had the best truth I've heard in a movie:
Leo DiCaprio: "I figure life's a gift and I don't intend on wasting it.."
(I can't believe I just quoted Titanic)
Yes. Feel Bad. VERY Bad.
 

geldonyetich

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You know, it's interesting, I have been feeling pretty down and out what with the economy being crap and me being a 32-year-old loser living at home. When society itself would seem to have no place for you, thoughts of suicide come naturally: a world which has no room for one's self would seem to entreat one's self from remove themselves from it.

However, along these lines of thought, it emerged that suicide was not really an answer for me. This is because I have always striven to live truthfully. You see, when you endeavor to live truthfully, you do not hearken to the path of whats easy but rather the path of doing what's right. Suicide is, and always has been, the "easy way out" in that it offers a quick and dirty solution to all your problems, but a person who is looking to do things the right way will nary ever resort to a quick and dirty solution about anything.

So I live - I shoulder my burden as an unemployed schmuck and hope to find the right way out of it. Any burden, even crippling, painful illness, can be seen in a similar light of suicide being more "easy" than "right." Thus, my vote goes to "cowardly," no "depends" about it.
 

s0p0g

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I see it as a form of cowardice. Loads of people consider it, but only a few actually do it.
I personally have a fear of dying and what's to come after death, I don't know why anyone would want to find out sooner.
so on the one hand you say it's cowardice to commit suicide, but then you say you're alive because you are afraid to die and of what may or may not be afterwards.
thus, people who (seriously try to) commit suicide aren't afraid of it. that makes them braver than you are, by your argumentation.
please try not to contradict yourself.



i think there is one option missing: "understandable" (or perhaps that goes with a viable alternative, but still, it's different)
i know someone who (seriously) tried to kill herself two times now (at least i know of two attempts), and both times it was sheer coincidence that she could be brought to a hospital and be saved (or her life, that is. but discussing that would lead too far, i guess); she chose situations (no one at home over the weekends etc.) where, if she were not "disturbed" or found because her parents or sister returned earlier than planned would be dead now.
i had looong talks with her, and so did her psychologist, and i think, from her point of view, i can undertand why she chose not to live.
and no, no emo-shit with her, don't you even dare thinking that.

there are more possibilites than somatic illnesses or injuries that make your life appear pretty... unappealing. sometimes, someone's life has been fucked up royally so far; sometimes people adhor or detest themselves so much, that they come to the conclusion to get to the root of the problem - to themselves.


but i'll go with "depends". there are situations that are pretty ridiculous. or when someone tries to run from their responsibility (financial ruin of their enterprise/company/... )
really depends on the case.
 

dark-amon

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MaskedMori said:
dark-amon said:
Suicide is an act of cowardice and selfishness. There is no excuse for it, there is nothing that may justify it. Only those who choose to run away or give up would end their lives. There is nothing noble or rightesous about it.
Thos who would consider suicide should remind themself that there are alwasy a choice, and that thet should choose to find and solve the despair that leads them.
This would be true, if life had any purpose or meaning. People's life are their own and they have a right to end it if they wish, as long as it stays within his life and his alone. Killing your family then yourself is selfish, unless they are willing... Which would probably never happen.
A lack of meaning dosen't justify suicide. It's a personal moral failure. you say that people have the right to end their own life, but I think you are as wrong as it is possible to get. Ones life is never simply ones own. if it where you would first have to live completley removed from all other living beings until all that has ever had a bond to you is no more, and even than it would be a failure towards your duty as a living being!
 

confernal

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If someone is going to end there life then its like throwing away the perfectly good book or muffin in the trash.... Once you throw it in the garbage its not yours anymore. Therefore we can kidnap thes people and force them into slavery!!!!(hey! they were going to kill themselfs!)
 
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I don't know how much religion comes into it, but being an Atheist means I'm terrified of dying and becoming part of the void we all came out of (it creeps me out when I try to imagine the fact that once I wasn't born). Suicide therefore is something I would only even consider if I was going to die anyway, and only after hours of horrific torture or something to that effect.
 

Hot'n'steamy

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OK here's my 2c-

If you have a child/someone dependent on you- you are a coward.
If you actually kill yourself you are to be pitied and morned.
If you attempt you are an attention seeker.

Killing yourself is the easiest thing in the world. Stand in front of a train. Swim out to sea at night.

People who "attempt" by slitting their wrist perpendicularly are just attention seekers.

If I seem incredibly insensitive it's because I have known a number of people who have committed suicide; and I've also seen the rise of teenage angst culture that placed suicide on some revered plinth, a martyr to the "scene" scene; where attempted suicide is a act to be (literally) worn on the wrist with pride.