Poll: Suicide - Your opinion

[goatzilla8463]

It's their choice. How can you call someone who takes their own life a coward? You must be extremely brave to do that.

 

[Willwillwritehiswill]

Anyone attempting suicide is usually mentally unstable and in need of help. I believe it's our right to help me.

 

[Standby]

A persons life is no-ones but their own. They should have complete choice over whether they wish to live it.

 

[lizards]

If you have a horrible disease or condition which makes your lie agony then I support suicide, but if your doing it just because your life sucks or because you lost someone then your stupid, there's no valid reason to do.

I just have to ask you guys who keep coming with responses invoking "valid reasons". Tell me: could you mention any objective valid reasons to live?

(Im just curious)

Valid reasons? To enjoy life, to be happy, to fall in love, to experience the greatest high and best lows, to give life to the world, to change the lives of others, to hike 10 miles to a lake in the rain to eat icecream and enjoy the view, there are countless reasons to live and enjoy life, to throw that all away just because say your parents split up or you've failed all your goals in the short term is just plain stupid.

dont be so damn thick if a person is ready to commit sucide they are either mentally ill, very depressed, or like me just have never been happy and while most people are strong enough to resist it some arent and to say that its a selfish act or a cowardice act is a true sign of an moron

people dont just get it the intense sadness that runs through you every day until you cant take it anymore the fact that you no longer enjoy life and the fact that you are just overall depressed and if you think that they are a coward or whatever for wanting that to end then i would ask you to step outside and try it out because the people that say its a coward have never had such intense hate for life

use war as an example some people are right up their fighting and killing the other people while some are just staying back trying to not get killed and others are screaming in terror and those people that are screaming in terror are the ones that cant take it and just want to end it and you have no right or ability to say anything other than "i understand" or "i pity them"

and i dont know why you feel that you have the right to tell them they cant anyways my right to take me life is just as valid as yours to post on the internet

I have already said I believe its the right for someone to commit suicide if they wish but I still don't agree with it and will still view it as a stupid action in most cases, many people (mostly teenagers) have no real perspective on life and see their life as this horrible sadness when they in fact live in a first world country with all the freedom to change their life around if they really wish, but they see their girlfriend leave them or everything goes to shit and they just want to get out, but life is like that, its hard and shit happens, you pick yourself up and you change your situation, if that fails then you keep trying until it works, its not like you've got anything to lose if your already considering death. If you feel depressed go see a doctor or psychologist and talk through your problems, sort out any stuff in your life and I'm sure things will get better just because they don't look so good in the present.

well i dont know how on the edge your personality is but 99/100 people dont go directly from happy go lucky yo sucidal just because their girlfriend left or whatever most people who are considering it feel that they have tried everything else and usally most have because the kids that get picked on in school people who lost everything and people who are just unhappy dont really have the option of "you pick yourself up and you change your situation, if that fails then you keep trying until it works, its not like you've got anything to lose if your already considering death." and i fail to see that that is even remotely correct

at the end of the day most sucidals dont care whether they live or die and some dont want help but i do not think you have thought fully about what you are saying really

 

[joshthor]

i think suicide is a selfish thing. depends on the reason though. if they are depressed and cant see a way to make anything better - selfish. if they are suffering from a terminal illness i can see why they would choose that.

 

[Jurassic Rob]

Suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. They never think of the people around them, and are self centred pricks.

 

[Aqualung]

In terms of games, movies, or novels, I think- and don't get me wrong- that suicide can make a beautiful and tragic end to a story (see: Children of Hurin.)

But in reality... Well, who are we to judge? Anyone posting here obviously hasn't committed suicide, so how can we know the complex mix of emotions running through that person's head at the moment?

I don't think it's the least bit selfish, though.

 

[Logic 0]

Depends on how and why they do it.

 

[Insanum]

Suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. They never think of the people around them, and are self centred pricks.

I have asked this question three times in this thread and noone has bothered to answer it yet. Isn't it selfish of those around the suicidal person to basically say, "Just learn to deal with your horrible physical/emotional pain because I don't want you to make ME sad"?

I'd say its selfish to say its selfish?

 

[Dr. Gorgenflex]

I think you all should commit suicide if you've ever considered suicide, it would be a much better world.

 

[Insanum]

Suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. They never think of the people around them, and are self centred pricks.

I have asked this question three times in this thread and noone has bothered to answer it yet. Isn't it selfish of those around the suicidal person to basically say, "Just learn to deal with your horrible physical/emotional pain because I don't want you to make ME sad"?

I'd say its selfish to say its selfish?

Uhhh...care to elaborate?

Well, If say for example we were good friends. You felt suicidal, And i thought you were being selfish only thinking of you BUT the flip side of the argument - Im thinking about my feelings if you went through with it ~ Being selfish?

 

[Insanum]

Suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. They never think of the people around them, and are self centred pricks.

I have asked this question three times in this thread and noone has bothered to answer it yet. Isn't it selfish of those around the suicidal person to basically say, "Just learn to deal with your horrible physical/emotional pain because I don't want you to make ME sad"?

I'd say its selfish to say its selfish?

Uhhh...care to elaborate?

Well, If say for example we were good friends. You felt suicidal, And i thought you were being selfish only thinking of you BUT the flip side of the argument - Im thinking about my feelings if you went through with it ~ Being selfish?

Yes, exactly the point I'm trying to make! So do you agree with it? And I'm not even trying to say that there's not a hint of selfishness in suicide but that all the dead guy's "friends" standing around saying, "Look how that selfish bastard ruined MY day by killing himself!" seem ten times worse.

I never saw it that way, but i agree with you.

 

[Jurassic Rob]

Suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. They never think of the people around them, and are self centred pricks.

I have asked this question three times in this thread and noone has bothered to answer it yet. Isn't it selfish of those around the suicidal person to basically say, "Just learn to deal with your horrible physical/emotional pain because I don't want you to make ME sad"?

Yes it is, but most people with a shred of pity won't say that. I supported a friend of mine for 2 years, he called me nearly every night at all hours, and I always had time for him, and then he goes and does it anyway! Selfish, no other word for it!

 

[Insanum]

Suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. They never think of the people around them, and are self centred pricks.

I have asked this question three times in this thread and noone has bothered to answer it yet. Isn't it selfish of those around the suicidal person to basically say, "Just learn to deal with your horrible physical/emotional pain because I don't want you to make ME sad"?

Yes it is, but most people with a shred of pity won't say that. I supported a friend of mine for 2 years, he called me nearly every night at all hours, and I always had time for him, and then he goes and does it anyway! Selfish, no other word for it!

So your begrudging your friend for using you as his pillar for years...and he's selfish?

EDIT: I'd just like to ad that i respect your opinion, But i feel there are holes in your logic.

 

[Jurassic Rob]

Suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. They never think of the people around them, and are self centred pricks.

I have asked this question three times in this thread and noone has bothered to answer it yet. Isn't it selfish of those around the suicidal person to basically say, "Just learn to deal with your horrible physical/emotional pain because I don't want you to make ME sad"?

Yes it is, but most people with a shred of pity won't say that. I supported a friend of mine for 2 years, he called me nearly every night at all hours, and I always had time for him, and then he goes and does it anyway! Selfish, no other word for it!

I agree with Insanum's reply; do you consider even for a second what kind of agony he had to be in to end his life? I figured most of the people in this thread have no clue the extent of pain it takes to think death is the best answer. But you should, if you tried to help him for so long. I'm sorry for your loss, but would you really rather he still be here, suffering, so you didn't have to go through what you did?

His selfishness has nothing to do with how I feel. The fact is, he had two children under 10. Are you saying he wasn't selfish, leaving two kids like that?

 

[Insanum]

Suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. They never think of the people around them, and are self centred pricks.

I have asked this question three times in this thread and noone has bothered to answer it yet. Isn't it selfish of those around the suicidal person to basically say, "Just learn to deal with your horrible physical/emotional pain because I don't want you to make ME sad"?

Yes it is, but most people with a shred of pity won't say that. I supported a friend of mine for 2 years, he called me nearly every night at all hours, and I always had time for him, and then he goes and does it anyway! Selfish, no other word for it!

I agree with Insanum's reply; do you consider even for a second what kind of agony he had to be in to end his life? I figured most of the people in this thread have no clue the extent of pain it takes to think death is the best answer. But you should, if you tried to help him for so long. I'm sorry for your loss, but would you really rather he still be here, suffering, so you didn't have to go through what you did?

His selfishness has nothing to do with how I feel. The fact is, he had two children under 10. Are you saying he wasn't selfish, leaving two kids like that?

Kids weren't mentioned before. What we were saying was that dont you think it was a tad selfish to begrudge your friend for what he has done?