What he means is that you didn't exercise your democratic right, thereby removing yourself from the system, thereby meaning you don't have the authority to complain about anything or anyone. whoever wins. Whilst you are right that no matter who you or they elect, we will end up hating them, you still neglected to perhapes change this by voting (albiet fruitlessly) for a nicer minority party chap, or even the Monster Raving Looney Party to announce your disconnection.master m99 said:because i didnt vote?...i CANT vote and im just pointing something out i would love to be proved wrong but at the end of the day it just takes one screw up and will end up hating him im sorry that just what i honistly belive. so is it that i cant complain because of my age or because i think other will complain?Wedlock49 said:Then you've no right what-so-ever to complain about anything that the government comes into power.master m99 said:tbh i dont really keep up with or care about politics granted im 17 but still, at the end of the day where going to end up hating the guy in power and using them as a nice convienent blame figgur anyway. im not trying to be a downer or anything i just honistly belive we need someone to hate/blame and the more powerfull someone is the more likly they are to become that figure.
The same thing happend where i am, but frankly i'd not mind a (Major party i voted for) controlled constituency, provided they don't win a majority in the ellection.Wadders said:I voted for a major party. It was a sort of tactical vote though, because the party I originally wanted to vote for dont stand a chance in my constituency.
i see what your saying there granted im not sure if i agree that i would have no right to complain about changes as i live in the uk and so may be effected but i can see what you mean who knows maybie when i can vote ill pay more attenchion but untill then i just dont really see the point on brushing up on things that dont interest me personally and i cant really use but at the end of the day im better off studieing for my exams (which i should really be doing now >.> <.<) at the moment maybie next year.GrinningManiac said:What he means is that you didn't exercise your democratic right, thereby removing yourself from the system, thereby meaning you don't have the authority to complain about anything or anyone. whoever wins. Whilst you are right that no matter who you or they elect, we will end up hating them, you still neglected to perhapes change this by voting (albiet fruitlessly) for a nicer minority party chap, or even the Monster Raving Looney Party to announce your disconnection.master m99 said:because i didnt vote?...i CANT vote and im just pointing something out i would love to be proved wrong but at the end of the day it just takes one screw up and will end up hating him im sorry that just what i honistly belive. so is it that i cant complain because of my age or because i think other will complain?Wedlock49 said:Then you've no right what-so-ever to complain about anything that the government comes into power.master m99 said:tbh i dont really keep up with or care about politics granted im 17 but still, at the end of the day where going to end up hating the guy in power and using them as a nice convienent blame figgur anyway. im not trying to be a downer or anything i just honistly belive we need someone to hate/blame and the more powerfull someone is the more likly they are to become that figure.
It's like I always say: Apathetic is a letter away from Pathetic. Harsh, but I cannot think of a less nasty pun/analogy/fable
....but he can't vote. He doesn't have a democratic right to exercise, since he's not old enough to vote.GrinningManiac said:What he means is that you didn't exercise your democratic right, thereby removing yourself from the system, thereby meaning you don't have the authority to complain about anything or anyone. whoever wins. Whilst you are right that no matter who you or they elect, we will end up hating them, you still neglected to perhapes change this by voting (albiet fruitlessly) for a nicer minority party chap, or even the Monster Raving Looney Party to announce your disconnection.master m99 said:because i didnt vote?...i CANT vote and im just pointing something out i would love to be proved wrong but at the end of the day it just takes one screw up and will end up hating him im sorry that just what i honistly belive. so is it that i cant complain because of my age or because i think other will complain?Wedlock49 said:Then you've no right what-so-ever to complain about anything that the government comes into power.master m99 said:tbh i dont really keep up with or care about politics granted im 17 but still, at the end of the day where going to end up hating the guy in power and using them as a nice convienent blame figgur anyway. im not trying to be a downer or anything i just honistly belive we need someone to hate/blame and the more powerfull someone is the more likly they are to become that figure.
It's like I always say: Apathetic is a letter away from Pathetic. Harsh, but I cannot think of a less nasty pun/analogy/fable
your age isn't a factor, I'm too young to vote as well. But showing an interest in politics is always good, you can't just demonize them all. I read your post as a reasoning as to not vote so I responded in kind.master m99 said:because i didnt vote?...i CANT vote and im just pointing something out i would love to be proved wrong but at the end of the day it just takes one screw up and will end up hating him im sorry that just what i honistly belive. so is it that i cant complain because of my age or because i think other will complain?
Wedlock49 said:i wasnt demonising them in fact what i said was more demonising of average people and there need to hate someone then the person them selfs im not trying to rationalise my lack if interest in politics as i dont belive i have to as it just doesnt interest me. also as i live in the uk i think i have to right to ***** and moan about this stuff if it ends up effecting me. to put it in extreame terms its kinda like a dog if you didnt like them and didnt learn anything about them you still have to right the moan if one bites you in the ass...man i suck at explaining these things...that and spellingmaster m99 said:your age isn't a factor, I'm too young to vote as well. But showing an interest in politics is always good, you can't just demonize them all. I read your post as a reasoning as to not vote so I responded in kind.
The Lib Dems are new now? Sure they might have changed the name slightly after they absorbed the Social Democrats, but the Liberal Party (essentially the same thing) was founded way back in 1859; unless Wikipedia decieves me.Daystar Clarion said:The Lib Dems deserve a shot at it I think. All parties were new at one point, it's time for the Libs to prove themselves.
Whilst there are many good reasons to dissuade someone from backing the BNP, I'm going to avoid the most obviously controversial and skip to the EU:Wedlock49 said:I can't legally vote yet but I'm at odds with all the parties in power. I support the BNP's stand on immigration as well as withdrawing from the EU but i'm not overly keen on some of their other policies.
UKIP are very much the same as the BNP for me.
I do not trust labour even though they're the most logical party for me to vote for.
Liberal Democrates in my opinion wont have the strength to pull us from the recession.
I'm not wealthy enough to see Conservatives as an option.
Green party can go take a walk for all I care.
So i'm left pretty in the middle... I would probably use my vote tactically if it were given to me and vote either Liberal Democrate or Conservative as I haven't any faith in a Labour government.
I find this offensive tbh, We have the right to vote and one vote can make a difference. You should consider yourself lucky to be in a country where free elections take place and you should take full advantage of that.Psychophante said:I didn't bother. Couldn't care less who f**ks this country up next.