Poll: Voting Age
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defining the rules of such a test would either very lax or very complex ultimately very hard to define you have to allow people to vote who have contributed to society in some wayGlerken said:
I would argue that those who do give blood and raise a family are quite the minority amongst their age group, and the majority continues to be whiny arrogant self-important nutcases who should not have an opinion that gets heard by large amounts of people. In fact that's my biggest problem with the internet.Pezzer said:
Exactly! And the minute you do that you undermine democracy and the whole thing becomes pointless...I was just thinking out loud...murphy7801 said:
There is a difference between repeating what your parents say, and being well informed. Most people at that age only know what is told to them by their parents and their teachers as far as presidential candidates are concerned, both of which are probably fairly biased. Letting these people vote would not improve the voting process in any way, shape or form.carnkhan4 said:
I typed up a rather long response, but the Escapist had an issue so no way am I typing up all that again. Here is my condensed version.BardSeed said:
Propaganda, used by authority figures, needs to stop, would take big shift.
Kids, or at least teens, smart, just don't use smart as it's beaten down by "do as I say" rhetoric.
Sorry it's not as productive as my other writing, but it was long and took me an hour to come up with.
in an ideal world i would have to say it would go by maturity. can you make a decision like this? if so you can drink, smoke and have sex, if not then you can't.
since that is impossible i will go with 17/18. i was annoyed by my inability to vote, but i will next time.
since that is impossible i will go with 17/18. i was annoyed by my inability to vote, but i will next time.
I like the original rules on voting you had to own at least some amount of land.
That way your really have a state in the state.
That way your really have a state in the state.
But there are responsible people living in apartments. Seems like that would shut out a lot of people from voting. And what about the people who live in a house they pay for, but it's under someone else's name? Say for instance, a spouse?Raregolddragon said:
this whole argument come in two halves
1. if you say that people at 16 are intelligent enough thats one thing but dont think thats entirely the point its like having an opinion on something because you been told its the right thing to say were as going out there making a mistakes with your life realizing why certain choices are because you have experienced more of life.
2. if you have a test to vote how do define what qualifies on being able to vote im mean how does someone become able to judge a fellow person let alone devise a test to judge. In the end how can one say that his fellow populace are not his peers with the diversity verity of human experience knowledge emotion one person let alone a room of people cannot account for a populations wealth of these thing so we have to have a general system like age consent.
1. if you say that people at 16 are intelligent enough thats one thing but dont think thats entirely the point its like having an opinion on something because you been told its the right thing to say were as going out there making a mistakes with your life realizing why certain choices are because you have experienced more of life.
2. if you have a test to vote how do define what qualifies on being able to vote im mean how does someone become able to judge a fellow person let alone devise a test to judge. In the end how can one say that his fellow populace are not his peers with the diversity verity of human experience knowledge emotion one person let alone a room of people cannot account for a populations wealth of these thing so we have to have a general system like age consent.
Sorry to hear about losing your post; I was looking forward to an in-depth reply. Just remember to keep a copy of your post next time, I guess. You won't stop the parties putting out their propaganda. Even if you can get them not to lie(no chance), they still need to make their party sound better. Children are more affected by propaganda; it's an evolutionary trait. We do as authority figures say, because obviously they know best, right? Who's more authoritative than the people running the country?A random person said:
Don't forget that the average person really isn't that intelligent. Couple this with the gullibility found in youth and you have greater amounts of propaganda, as parties just try to win their little popularity contest among the young.
I aim to please.murphy7801 said:
This would just make the class divide even greater.Raregolddragon said:
Lowering the voting age to 16 is foolish. At least till the government realise that atudents need political education before 16.
At 16, in my opinion based on my experience of people i have met, most people are not mature enough to be trusted. The amount of retarded 16/17 year olds i know who say vote bnp and so on.
People need to be less ignorant and more mature before the voting age can be lowered to 16
At 16, in my opinion based on my experience of people i have met, most people are not mature enough to be trusted. The amount of retarded 16/17 year olds i know who say vote bnp and so on.
People need to be less ignorant and more mature before the voting age can be lowered to 16