Poll: What do you think about circumcision?

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FiveSpeedf150

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I'm pretty damn thankful my parents had it done for me. I've got a buddy who's parents followed the "let him decide when he's an adult" route. I had to drive him home from the hospital when he finally had it done, poor guy.

Plus, the whole "circumcised has fewer nerve endings" isn't always a bad thing... unless you like being a "Minute Man". Us cut guys last longer, and I don't hear the girls complain about that.

God I love being an American.
 

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Divine Miss Bee said:
besides, your son will thank you later because (myself included) every girl i know thinks circumsized is more attractive and most studies agree that sex and stimulation feel better to circumsized men than to uncircumsized ones.
that's culture, western europe has way less cut penises, only one i know who had his cut is my brother and that was for medical reasons aswell.

haha source of these studies? cause that sounds like bullshit to me, you do know the skin retracts during sex right? im pretty confident stating theres no big difference between erect cut and uncut. as for stimulation, the cut one is probably less easily stimulated and "feels less good" airquotes cause 100% subjective, than the uncut one that being protected.
 

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FiveSpeedf150 said:
I'm pretty damn thankful my parents had it done for me. I've got a buddy who's parents followed the "let him decide when he's an adult" route. I had to drive him home from the hospital when he finally had it done, poor guy.

Plus, the whole "circumcised has fewer nerve endings" isn't always a bad thing... unless you like being a "Minute Man". Us cut guys last longer, and I don't hear the girls complain about that.

God I love being an American.
Europeans are better in bed because we have to train to last longer. Takes practice to be the best. If you by default can last longer, you won't carry much value as a lover if you base your sexlife on that one fact.

Beside, most American women who have been with cut and uncut men say that they prefer having sex with an uncut for a longer time, since it doesn't cause as much friction due to the improved lubrication and motion of the foreskin to prevent shafing.
 

Y_P

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I don't know about lasting, never had problems yao_meme.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BPEWw2Fi5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gCddEv5LRs

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ILikeEggs

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ChaosStep said:
It's essentially mutilation with a primitive excuse. We should still go around burning ugly women on the assumption that they might be a witch.
To be fair, it would only be if said women weigh the same as a duck.

FiveSpeedf150 said:
Us cut guys last longer, and I don't hear the girls complain about that.
True to an extent, but if I were a woman, I'd much rather have a guy that finishes off marginally faster than have the possibility of painful/uncomfortable intercourse on a regular basis.

This is also assuming you're completely unaware of the fact that lasting longer doesn't mean much because the clitoris has far more to do with female orgasm than vaginal penetration.

"Waldinger et al. recruited 500 men (98 circumcised and 261 not-circumcised) from five countries: the Netherlands, United Kingdom, Spain, Turkey, and the United States and studied their ejaculation times during sexual intercourse. They found that the circumcised men in the study took on average 6.7 minutes to ejaculate, compared with 6.0 minutes for the uncircumcised men. This difference was not statistically significant."

That's right, cut guys last a whole 42 seconds longer than intact guys! I mean, it's nearly a minute!

FiveSpeedf150 said:
God I love being an American.
And every time someone says that and is as wrong as you are, I cringe.

Ultratwinkie said:
Actually there is no evidence to support that it lasts longer. That is something that is up to you personally. What is known however is that it damages nerves and causes callouses. You also used an anecdotal situation, which is horrible evidence. Forskin only causes problems for less than 5% of the total uncircumcised population.
The study I mentioned above does suggest otherwise, but in the end you're right that the difference is marginal.
Additionally, studies have shown that there is very little difference in glans sensitivity when comparing a circumcised and intact penis. As far as I've seen, callouses(or keratinisation) doesn't really happen either. Nerve damage is a given, however.

The primary reason for loss of sensitivity is the loss of the foreskin itself as show in the image below(I'm pretty sure you're aware, but the image does make things more clear):

 

Pipotchi

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I'm sure that vast majority of circumscised men suffer no ill effects, however while a vocal minority resent the fact that they were put through the procedure I dont see how it is morally defensible.

At best your kid wont mind being circumscised and worst he may end up resenting you for putting him though a medical procedure he might not need.

Circumscisions can and do go wrong and result in death and infection, to me it doesnt seem worth the risk.

Medically needed procedures excepted of course
 

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Shynobee said:
Honestly, I voted in this poll, and was downright shocked at the results.

52% think guys should decide when they are older??? Seriously? SERIOUSLY????

Do you have any idea how painful circumcision is? I'll you a hint, you are chopping off about half of the skin around a penis, arguably the most sensitive part of a man's body. It hurts. A LOT.

No sane grown man is going to want to do that. Ever. Even with modern anesthesia, no guy is going to want to drastically alter their body in such a way.

If parents want their kid circumcised, do it when they are born, when they won't remember their penis being any different. Its not like it matters anyway. There are arguments on both sides as to whether circumcision should happen, but at the end of the day, it really isn't a big deal.

So either do it right away, or not at all.
So the jist of your post is abuse your kids all you want, its fine if they dont remember ?

Hmmm toes arent much use, they look ugly. I wonder if I asked a doctor to remove them from a newborn if he would have me arrested.
Ok, I think I missed something... Since when is circumcision defined as abusive? There is no definitive proof on either side of this argument showing that circumcision is good or bad. So, in the end, it doesn't matter.

If done to a baby as early as possible by a trained physician, I honestly see nothing wrong with it. And if you don't want your child circumcised, don't circumcise them. Simple as that. There is nothing abusive about it.
 

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Phlakes said:
I'm circumsized, and I'm not any worse off than anyone else, and I don't care that doctors cut some of my skin off when I was too young to remember it.

Basically, there's no reason parents shouldn't be able to make the choice.
Aren't there medical disadvantages?
 

Sewora

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ravensheart18 said:
People keep repeating that but the science is actually mixed. Even the nerve ending question is disputed, in particular because the type of nerves that give you most of the pleasure during sex are not the type on the foreskin.
I don't need science to know that I can just rub my foreskin to orgasm. It's THAT sensitive. Hell, even urinating is an enjoyable activity due to the stimulation. If I retract my foreskin when urinating, i actually feel a slight frictionburn in my urethra because there's nothing to adjust the speed at which the urine moves through your urethra. I would imagine that it'd get less sensitive and hardened after awhile if you're circumsized.
So proof one; the foreskin is in fact more sensitive than the glans itself, this is proven because WE who haven't had our foreskin amputated can tell you that.
Proof two; the fact that we experience more sensitivity that circumsized men generally can't even relate to shows that there is in fact a physical difference.

You don't need a research team to figure that out, it's as simple as asking us. But circumsized men aren't interested in finding out whether or not they got the ugly end of a stick. They just want everyone else to shut up and stop telling them that it's an unecessary and life-altering procedure.
Then they want their children to be the same as them. It's a vicious circle that won't end until we educate children on the matter, and let them form their own opinions so that when it's their turn to decide whether or not to amputate the foreskin on their children, they can weight their options with a more educated view.

Very few adult men would ever willingly go through with circumcision without a damned good reason. Such as experiencing a medical issue such as Phimosis. So why would we assume children would appreciate it being done to them?

No one is saying circumcision shouldn't be done at all anywhere. But that it should be up to the person whether or not he wants a permanent procedure done or not. He never even gets the choice. And the child won't suffer or die from having a foreskin so there's no valid reason to circumsize the child to begin with.

It's very very simple.

Circumsized men can't get uncircumsized, so they never get to choose or try both.

Uncircumsized men can get circumsized. They can even pull the foreskin back and get the same sensation as being circumsized and decide whether they want it like that permanently or not.

Whether or not it'd hurt to get circumsized later is irrelevant, because you HAVE THE OPTION TO DO IT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO.
People do the stupidest cosmetic surgeries today and suffer from the pain caused by said surgeries. Why would circumsizion be any different?
If circumsizion is an acceptable procedure, it should be perfectly fine to perform other cosmetic surgeries on children to make them "perfect" in the eyes of their parents and their society.
 

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Shynobee said:
There is no definitive proof on either side of this argument showing that circumcision is good or bad. So, in the end, it doesn't matter.
If it doesn't matter, why force it on a kid?

If done to a baby as early as possible by a trained physician, I honestly see nothing wrong with it. And if you don't want your child circumcised, don't circumcise them. Simple as that.
But why should it be about what the parent wants? It isn't the parent's body. It should be about what the person with the penis wants.
 

TheRundownRabbit

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Really? This? Lets not let it become like a "Cut vs. Uncut" thread like on /b/.
I just really dont care. All I know is, if anyone tried to mess with little Jacob when I was fully aware, I would be like "Hell no".
 

BiscuitTrouser

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Shynobee said:
this isnt my name said:
Shynobee said:
Honestly, I voted in this poll, and was downright shocked at the results.

52% think guys should decide when they are older??? Seriously? SERIOUSLY????

Do you have any idea how painful circumcision is? I'll you a hint, you are chopping off about half of the skin around a penis, arguably the most sensitive part of a man's body. It hurts. A LOT.

No sane grown man is going to want to do that. Ever. Even with modern anesthesia, no guy is going to want to drastically alter their body in such a way.

If parents want their kid circumcised, do it when they are born, when they won't remember their penis being any different. Its not like it matters anyway. There are arguments on both sides as to whether circumcision should happen, but at the end of the day, it really isn't a big deal.

So either do it right away, or not at all.
So the jist of your post is abuse your kids all you want, its fine if they dont remember ?

Hmmm toes arent much use, they look ugly. I wonder if I asked a doctor to remove them from a newborn if he would have me arrested.
Ok, I think I missed something... Since when is circumcision defined as abusive? There is no definitive proof on either side of this argument showing that circumcision is good or bad. So, in the end, it doesn't matter.

If done to a baby as early as possible by a trained physician, I honestly see nothing wrong with it. And if you don't want your child circumcised, don't circumcise them. Simple as that. There is nothing abusive about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_analysis_of_circumcision#Costs_and_benefits

Do you really think not a single medical proffessional has looked into this?! Read through this. Quite a lot of negative studies, a few positive, but medically it does more harm than good. And pretty much ever developed countries medical organsiations have recognised this. Why dont the public? No idea.

Almost every positive aspect can be achieved with not banging hookers, using protection, and hygine. If you wanna forgo these get it cut at 18 when you can decide how much of a hassel they are.

And regardless of if its abuse or not what you are saying is - pain doesnt matter if you dont remember. Can i punch a baby if it does no permenant harm?
 

BiscuitTrouser

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Sober Thal said:
Just curious, are all the anti-circumcision people here, anti-abortion too?
Fraid not, for the excact reason im pro choice. A zygote isnt a baby. Logical fallacy there my friend :p

Thus i dont find them comparable AND in the same notion i find that abortion before a nervous system has formed to be ok.

I believe in freedom of choice for ones body. Again why im against circumcision since my body my choice should always ring true.
 

MrFalconfly

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Well it's your choice if you want to have bits of your body cut off.

But that's about it. Nobody else but you should make that choice.