Poll: What do you think about Crysis 2 on consoles?

[T-Bone24]

I like multiplatform games. Allows for more people to enjoy it; I've never understood the vast amounts of anger if a series moves multiplatform. That won't be the reason if it gets any worse. More platforms means more sales and moneys for the developers and means more gamers get to enjoy it. What's the problem?

 

[Locko96]

Well, let's put it this way. I loved Crysis, truly did, but it...to put it lightly.....anally raped my computer. I also own an XBOX 360 too so this is great news for me. Getting the 360 version.

 

[AlanShore]

How can you guarantee that the PC experience won't be changed? There are plenty of games that have been negatively influenced as a direct result of going multi platform.

And there are plenty of games that haven't been influenced as a direct result of going multi-platform, negative nancy. Besides, have you named any of those games yet? I may have missed them while scanning the topic, but you don't seem to have actually supplied anything noteworthy to the discussion.

No, I can't guarantee that PC gamers won't find something to cry about - But you can't guarantee they will.

So you admit that your claim of "Your experience of the game won't be changed at all" was total rubbish then, since you don't know that at all? Considering that there are games that have suffered, and it's the negative experiences that stick in your mind the most, you can't really blame PC gamers for being a bit apprehensive about this news. If you're a PC only gamer that has an interest in Crysis 2, there is no upside for you whatsoever to this game going onto consoles whilst there is plenty of room for downside.

Ok, want some examples: Deus Ex 2, Thief 3, the later Command & Conquer games, Supreme Commander 2, Oblivion, Fallout 3, the new Rainbow 6 games, Operation Flashpoint, the upcoming Xcom game that's going to be an FPS, Wolfenstein, Modern Warfare 2, and add to that god knows how many bad console ports PC gamers have been given. So, tell me, how many games are there where the PC version has directly BENEFITED from going multi platform?

 

[Artemicion]

So you admit that your claim of "Your experience of the game won't be changed at all" was total rubbish then, since you don't know that at all?

Whelp, considering it's a matter of opinion, no, it's not total rubbish.

Considering that there are games that have suffered, and it's the negative experiences that stick in your mind the most, you can't really blame PC gamers for being a bit apprehensive about this news. If you're a PC only gamer that has an interest in Crysis 2, there is no upside for you whatsoever to this game going onto consoles whilst there is plenty of room for downside.

Well maybe you should consider not whining about it and just see what happens, then? If the experience really does get degraded, then by all means feel free to rant and rave - after it's come out.

Deus Ex 2, Thief 3

Weren't the best to begin with, and a PC exclusive wouldn't have changed that.

the later Command & Conquer games, Supreme Commander 2,

Actually my friend owes me 20$ now, because I bet him that you'd inevitably name RTS, which were indeed made for the PC.

Oblivion, Fallout 3, the new Rainbow 6 games, Operation Flashpoint,

I own all of these games for both PC and Xbox(Oblivion for PS3). The differences are skin deep. You're wrong. As it happens, I was going to name Bethesda's games as those who haven't been harmed by their console counterparts, but I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, because it's clear nothing I say will change your mind. You may be onto something with Operation Flashpoint, because I have to turn the settings down low and can't fully experience the game, but it wasn't that great, either.

the upcoming Xcom game that's going to be an FPS

Make that 40$ for "games that haven't been released yet".

Wolfenstein,

Didn't have a good premise, wasn't interesting. Being beyond the PC didn't hurt it.

Modern Warfare 2

Actually, I'm surprised you didn't name Half Life 2. I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with MW2. It's a solid game on all platforms.

and add to that god knows how many bad console ports PC gamers have been given.

That is irrelevant. If a good console game makes a bad PC game, then that's too bad for PC gamers, but it's not the console game's fault. If the game is made with the console in mind, then yeah, the PC game won't be so good.

So, tell me, how many games are there where the PC version has directly BENEFITED from going multi platform?

Really I'm not sure how to answer this question, because the console game is generally a port of a PC game if the PC version exists - therein, the PC game isn't affected by the console version. I actually purchased my Fallout3 on PC after playing it on console because I liked it so much and wanted to play it at school, and when I played it I really didn't notice much different - other than user-made content, which is the bee's knees. If anything, the console version gave me incentive to buy the PC version as well - so there's your direct benefit. Publicity.

In all of your examples the only thing that may have been hurt was the reputation of the game (and as I mentioned, it probably didn't). Not the graphics(for modern games, anyways), not the controls (Exception: RTS) and certainly not the story.

I won't go further in the discussion, however - I've read your other posts, and I can see that you're either a troll or simply blindly opinionated.

 

[AlanShore]

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You've totally missed my point on almost all counts. I'm arguing that games in a franchise have been harmed by way of going multi platform, so while Fallout 3 might be almost identical on both the PC and consoles, compared to its predecessors Fallout 1 & 2, it's completely shallow. Same with Deus Ex 2, compared to the original it's so dumbed down it's ridiculous.

And what's wrong with citing RTS games as examples? If the complexity of the game is reduced in order to try and make it playable on a console, that sounds like the PC version has lost out to me.

Just because I don't like the console gaming experience doesn't make me a troll.

 

[Delusibeta]

Well, successful troll is successful. If you can't see what went wrong with MW2 PC (namely IWnet is an extremely crap replacement for the dedicated servers used in previous CoD games, and if you get dumped into a laggy game it is simply unplayable. It also allowed pirates in, and is partnered with an anti-cheat that's designed for dedicated server and thus sucks in MW2. Overall, the multiplayer is a backwards leap on all counts) then I conclude that you're probably trolling.

Suggesting Half Life 2 is a better example than Modern Warfare 2? Really?

On topic: While I feel it sort of defeats the point of the game, I can't see any major problem with Crysis 2 being multiplatform (especially if it means TimeSplitters 4 will turn up for the PC).

 

[AlanShore]

Well, successful troll is successful. If you can't see what went wrong with MW2 PC (namely IWnet is an extremely crap replacement for the dedicated servers used in previous CoD games, and if you get dumped into a laggy game it is simply unplayable. It also allowed pirates in, and is partnered with an anti-cheat that's designed for dedicated server and thus sucks in MW2. Overall, the multiplayer is a backwards leap on all counts) then I conclude that you're probably trolling.

Suggesting Half Life 2 is a better example than Modern Warfare 2? Really?

On topic: While I feel it sort of defeats the point of the game, I can't see any major problem with Crysis 2 being multiplatform (especially if it means TimeSplitters 4 will turn up for the PC).

Thank god someone understands what I was trying to say!

 

[Jaeke]

Well, it seems there's quite a bit of dispute about Crysis 2 on consoles, PC gamers freaking out. Console gamers going "What the hell is Crysis?" I personally think its a great idea, I'm a PC gamer at heart but my 360 is faithfully working away beside my TV. I thought Crysis was great, as also did almost everyone else who played it apparently. But what do you guys think, should it have stayed a PC exclusive? or do you like it the way it is

HAHA that made my day

 

[unoleian]

No matter what, the idea that a game may have been compromised by going multi can never really be proven, since the godly exclusive version was never actually released in any of these cases.

'sides, my understanding of the original Crysis was that it was a middling shooter of questionable depth with eye (and motherboard) melting graphics.
How, exactly, was that formula compromised by its going multi? Have the PC, you still get the eye-melting part...

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I'm arguing that games in a franchise have been harmed by way of going multi platform, so while Fallout 3 might be almost identical on both the PC and consoles, compared to its predecessors Fallout 1 & 2, it's completely shallow.

But was Fallout 3 hurt by being multiplatform or hurt by being done by a completely different developer that has a different approach to making games?

New Vegas may answer some of those questions... or it might pose even more.

 

[Xanadu84]

I'm dedicated to the survival and flourishing of PC gaming, but this doesn't bother me. The reason? By releasing it on multiple platforms, the developers, well known for pushing the boundaries of graphics on the PC, will have more money. Also, there will be the ability to compare and contrast. Certainly, plenty of people will buy the game on Console instead of PC. But a lot of the more dedicated fanbase of gaming will look at how beautiful Crysis 2 is on the PC, and decide to broaden there horizons, and try the PC out as a platform. It will only serve to broaden everyone's horizons, not to mention encourage both PC and Consoles to have there respective strengths highlighted.

My prediction is that the bigger fallout from Crysis on consoles is that PS3 will have a chance to shine, with its raw power really coming into play. Not a diss to X Boxers, but the PS3 does have a lot of Horsepower, and Crysis will show it off. Hopefully owners on all consoles will enjoy it, because there consoles of choice reflects there play style.

 

[eels05]

I'll let you know when I've played it.

 

[Mechsoap]

atleast it wont brutally murder your computer

 

[Jack and Calumon]

Crytek need to do this... especially with Germany thinking about banning violent videogames...

Calumon: Stealth Engaged. *Sneaks Behind Jack* Maximum Strength *Jumps on Jack* HIYA!

Jack: Argh! Christ Calumon! C'mere!

Calumon: Maximum Speed!

 

[Daipire]

There should be a 'neither'

 

[Antjenks]

I have to agree with all the exclusivity breeds elitism arguments here, but I would personally like to see more than just multi-platform releases, I want cross platform gaming. Not being able to play with a friend online just ebcause they own a different platform sucks IMO.

 

[JaymesFogarty]

How is this going to take down PC gamers a peg or two? The graphics, sound, and freedom provided by PC is still going to remain superior forever. That's the price paid by console gamers if they want cheap, limited systems that are "easy" to use.

Sound? Isn't that the speakers job, not the consoles?

 

[splatterguy734]

I'm glad its coming to console means I'm able to play it.

 

[Petromir]

How is this going to take down PC gamers a peg or two? The graphics, sound, and freedom provided by PC is still going to remain superior forever. That's the price paid by console gamers if they want cheap, limited systems that are "easy" to use.

Sound? Isn't that the speakers job, not the consoles?

What do you think produces the sounds for the speakers to produce? Producing high quality sound, paerticuarly surrond sound (which has gameplay advantages) can be a systems hog.