Poll: What is Real? (My first post. yay?)

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QuidProQuo

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Real

-true; not merely ostensible, nominal, or apparent: the real reason for an act.
-existing or occurring as fact; actual rather than imaginary, ideal, or fictitious: a story -taken from real life.
-being an actual thing; having objective existence; not imaginary: The events you will see in -the film are real and not just made up.
-being actually such; not merely so-called: a real victory.
-genuine; not counterfeit, artificial, or imitation; authentic: a real antique; a real diamond; real silk.
-unfeigned or sincere: real sympathy; a real friend.

What you may not know is that reality is a rarity, or a virtue if you will. It is the need for normalcy which drives us all insane. Normalcy, like reality, is a vice. Both need equilibrium in our environment for either to exist.

Reality is most thought of as the state of things in the world. However, Reality is more or less the true meaning behind certain topics of life. Attempting to give our world such a name is just plain blindness. The great minds of our time, ever little the number may be, all know the state of things. The sins of our fathers, am i wrong?

All of the things you were forced to learn were handed down for generations. Everything you take for granted is another form of controlling you. Why can't we question that of which we sit for a sixth of our lives learning about? Evolution is of course the more popular subject of this lesson I'm teaching you.

Charles Darwin was a very brave man. He most likely knew his theories would be shot down by the church. The evidence was staggering. And in recent events, like the discovery of Ida, further pieces the puzzle of our existence together. The church makes billions of dollars a year, so what would it do if it was proven wrong? Oh, and to only further their defeat, the church is beginning to accept Evolution as fact. What happened to Adam and Eve?

It's all about control. Isn't a Christian tradition of "shunning" non-believers? And if you look it up, most minds throughout history are without religion. And even average people today are reconsidering their faith. What religion tries to do is unite all people under on category, and when their threatened, react with full force. Roman Empire, anyone? Or even Israel and Pakistan?

Religion is corrupt. We all know it. It is even said in the Book of Revelations that Satan, in the coming of his time, while appoint two assistants; The Beast of the Sea (Antichrist) and the Beast of the Land (corrupted clergyman). The Antichrist would come to power in the form as a political leader. He shall urge world peace and unite all of Earth under one government. There goes checks and balances. The Clergyman, a powerful religious leader, would further unite all people into one religion. Both men shall join forces until all of the world is under one banner, Satan's.

Councils of intellectuals will be erected. They know from research what is going on. However, they are powerless to defend themselves and are silently killed of by public officials under advisement of the Antichrist. Where to go then?

In the BOR, it is said God himself would descend upon the Earth to fend of the siege of Satan's Army with an army of his own, save they being Angels. Where'd all the rest of the religions go? To Satan's army. They've done nothing wrong in their lives. Since when is it not okay to not believe in a being who hasn't shown Himself for eons? It wouldn't matter. The Religious leader converted everyone outside of Christianity to Satan's legion. All the Christians go to some place in the heavens in the rapture.

I don't believe it's going to happen. The whole religion thing is weird to me. Why should a list of commandments be 10 long? Why not 11? Because 10 sounds official.(Carlin references aside, He had a good point)

Whenever you talk to someone about religion being wrong, they often remark religion is a good way to adopt moral values. That's it? What else do we do with our lives? No one can be a lifeless person forever.

What's amazing is that religion has been going on since post-caveman time. No one took a stand and called it out? No. Why? Because there's too many of the blind on the opposing side. Take Galileo for example. His theories directly interfered with the church's policy on the geocentric theory. He was prosecuted unanimously for his views being different than that of the clergy. Why might the church do this? They feared any people straying from the church would threaten their security and more importantly, their level in the tax bracket.

Of course, there is way more deception in life than that of Religion. But is by far the most out of hand.

I don't know what else to hit on. That's where you come in, my reader. Send me a query or some ideas for further subjects. I just might use it. Feel free to comment any thoughts on the material, for free minds are the hope for the future.
 

Hazy

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Great First Post.
Welcome to the community, here is your starters kit: containing a Hat, T-Shirt, and Anti-4Chan Poster. Hang it where you please.
 

Agayek

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TL;DR.

Anyone got a cliff notes?

PS - Hi new guy

xxhazyshadowsxx said:
Great First Post.
Welcome to the community, here is your starters kit: containing a Hat, T-Shirt, and Anti-4Chan Poster. Hang it where you please.
You forgot the Towel. How could you forget the Towel?!
 

FredFredburgur

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QuidProQuo said:
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Oh, and to only further their defeat, the church is beginning to accept Evolution as fact. What happened to Adam and Eve?
What did the church do to accept evolution?
 

QuidProQuo

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FredFredburgur said:
QuidProQuo said:
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Oh, and to only further their defeat, the church is beginning to accept Evolution as fact. What happened to Adam and Eve?
What did the church do to accept evolution?
I heard at a press conference a while ago at Vatican that the higher-ups (cardinals) agree with some aspects of Evolution.

I would also like to thank my early commenters for welcoming me to the community, though some people voted without reading
 

GenHellspawn

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3WGf9pX0A

My opinions on reality summed up in one tersely worded sentence. Every trace of the idea of reality is linked to the senses, and since it is impossible to prove whether the senses are relative or not, the idea of one pre-defined world, and one pre-defined reality shared by all entities, is improbable.
 

QuidProQuo

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GenHellspawn said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3WGf9pX0A

My opinions on reality summed up in one tersely worded sentence. Every trace of the idea of reality is linked to the senses, and since it is impossible to prove whether the senses are relative or not, the idea of one pre-defined world, and one pre-defined reality shared by all entities, is improbable.
Good comment, and as a matter of fact, when coming up with the title of this little post... I did think of that particular scene. Thank you for bringing that up!
 

JC175

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It's a good first post, but keep in mind that religious threads like this tend to incite a lot of shit throwing, along with Halo fanboy threads, vs. threads, etc.

There was something I heard recently actually, that the Church only officially accepted (eg. with a public statement) that the Earth rotated around the sun in the mid 90's? I can't remember what the fact actually was, but it was something that had been mindnumbingly obvious for centuries, so it could have been that.

But I agree with you, and Welcome to the Escapist!
 

JC175

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QuidProQuo said:
GenHellspawn said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3WGf9pX0A

My opinions on reality summed up in one tersely worded sentence. Every trace of the idea of reality is linked to the senses, and since it is impossible to prove whether the senses are relative or not, the idea of one pre-defined world, and one pre-defined reality shared by all entities, is improbable.
Good comment, and as a matter of fact, when coming up with the title of this little post... I did think of that particular scene. Thank you for bringing that up!
As Descartes showed us, the only true fact in the world is that if you are able to have rational thought, then you exist. Nothing else in the world is completely proveable, as all other facts rely on sensory perception.

(Sorry for the double post, I wanted to make sure the quote registered)
 

QuidProQuo

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JC175 said:
It's a good first post, but keep in mind that religious threads like this tend to incite a lot of shit throwing, along with Halo fanboy threads, vs. threads, etc.

There was something I heard recently actually, that the Church only officially accepted (eg. with a public statement) that the Earth rotated around the sun in the mid 90's? I can't remember what the fact actually was, but it was something that had been mindnumbingly obvious for centuries, so it could have been that.

But I agree with you, and Welcome to the Escapist!
I agree on the aspect of feces becoming projectiles, being that a lot of people are closed-minded. But this will maybe be my first of three posts regarding religion. And because I am new to the community, no one will read it so "shit-throwing" won't be much of a problem.
 

QuidProQuo

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Oh, and a little bit more to add.... anyone could be right in a topic like this. So please feel free to add something.
 

FredFredburgur

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FredFredburgur said:
QuidProQuo said:
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Oh, and to only further their defeat, the church is beginning to accept Evolution as fact. What happened to Adam and Eve?
What did the church do to accept evolution?
Yeah that kind where if like long haired and short haired dogs are brought into a cold enviroment the long haired gene will become prominent. (Micro-evolution i think?) because that can and has been proven.
 

QuidProQuo

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Well yes, the longer hair would survive. But my point was that the idea coming from the church talked about two original humans just coming from out of nowhere and procreating. Plot holes, much?
 

Bagaloo

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Quite an epic first post.
And extremely controversial in nature.
Interesting nonetheless. Welcome.