CulixCupric said:
technically, humans are animals, because we're living organisms, and do not fit in the categories of plant, fungi, bacteria, virus, microbe, insect, arachnid, or mineral.
but i understand that you mean that our own survival comes first, and you mean to only say we need to preserve our species, correct?
It seems I didnt think my first post through enough and I apologise for its confrontational tone, Ill try and explain myself more civilly and thoroughly here.
For the record Im well aware that humans are animals, as for your second paragraph I agree with the 1st point but disagree with the second- humanities welfare and survival comes first but inflicting unnecessary suffering on animals is cruel and debatably evil.
I think where you and I are going to disagree strongly is about what constitutes "unecessary suffering"- to me animal testing for medical reasons counts as a necessary evil, doing so for cosmetics is an unnecessary one.
The same goes for farming methods- you'll get no arguement from me that the more intensive ones are incredibly cruel but in my mind they are necessary- people gotta eat, which Im sure is gonna illicit an arguement for veganism from you, which in my experience tend to be as pointless as any political or religious debate- I can explain my stance on that matter if you want but Id rather not because I doubt either of us will convince the other.