Poll: Where do you stand on animal rights?

[meece]

Pets do deserve a standard of living.

We have however go waaaaaaaay too far on improving the welfare of animals for testing on is totally ridiculous.... they have a better standard of living than most of the *world*

 

[SmilingKitsune]

Animals feel pain and fear just like we do. I'm not a vegetarian, but I whole heartedly think they should be treated with common decency.
I'm all for eating meat, but the way in which animals are kept is still in need of improvement, but it's getting a lot better.

 

[Social Pariah]

A right to be loved? Why should an animal give a shit about your love?

The right to be left alone by mankind would surely be preferable, perhaps if we pissed off and stopped keeping them for our own amusement.

 

[PhiMed]

What a stupid question.
I can believe that animals should be treated as humanely as possible while still enjoying eating meat. I can believe it is wrong to hurt an animal without reason while still feeling there is nothing wrong with humans benefitting from animal research. The world isn't black and white, especially in regards to this topic.

 

[Borrowed Time]

I like my leather and steaks. Mmmmmm steaks. I'm not necessarily for animal rights but I am against animal cruelty. Honestly, I can't answer the poll as it's much too vague.

 

[Seanchaidh]

To speak of animals having rights is rather absurd, as there is no way of knowing whether they might waive them or how they might exercise them; they are treated as property after all, and it's difficult to see how we'd accord meaningful rights to beings in such a relationship. We should therefore clarify what we're really talking about. The question is about human behavior towards animals and whether we think animals should be treated in various beneficent ways by humans. My view is that local communities should decide how they want to treat animals or if they want to leave it up to individuals. And I think information about how our food is harvested ought to be readily available so that people can decide for themselves whether they want to buy the product in full knowledge of the actions that have been performed in order to make that product. I do not believe that life is sacred nor that animals must be afforded any mercy as a law of justice. And I greatly enjoy eating some of them and that is not any kind of moral 'wrong'.

 

[Danzaivar]

Does an animal have a right to a decent quality of life? Absolutely.

Does an animal have a right to not have their life cut short so I can enjoy a steak? NO.

 

[Azraellod]

i believe that animals should only be killed/harmed when there is some sort of purpose to it.

incidentally, relieving boredom does not count as a purpose.

 

[Seanchaidh]

Why shouldn't relieving boredom count as a purpose? That seems rather arbitrary.

 

[Gerazzi]

I think only domesticated animals should get rights...
Because, you know... I actually care about them.

 

[yankeefan19]

I believe that although we shouldn't beat animals, we shouldn't become PETA. I say raising livestock to become food is okay.

 

[Liason]

Animals are very current thinking creatures and despite the fact that helping them does no one any valuable good aside from sentimentality and compassionate comfort, the morale of the general population would not be as it is if people did not feel "needed" or "important" by their pets. Thus abusing them has no benefits and I am in mild agreement they should be at least a minuscule amount protected.

 

[DuplicateValue]

Why is there no "I don't care" option??

'Cos I really don't. If it;s on my plete i'm gonna eat it, if it's not then I don't really mind.
At the end of the day it;s already dead and unlikely to come back to life by your refusal to eat it.

 

[DamienHell]

I'm fine with animal rights but I still want to eat them, own them and when I get money; wear them. I'm against the torturing aspect.

 

[Archaon6044]

my stance is that "you shouldn't be needlessly cruel to animals, and you should treat them well, but they are not human, and so do not have the same rights. what was all that crap a couple of years back where these activists wanted to give monkeys human rights? THEY AREN'T HUMAN!

people who treat animals as human (dressing your dog up in clothes for example) need to be sectioned

 

[Laverre]

Oh on a side note, we had scientific tests on humans, senseless killings for fun, cannibalism, make objects from human skin... you could argue we already treat animals like humans and stopping exactly that would help them more.

 

[Mr.Pandah]

I think we should make sure that humans get all those things before worrying about the animals. But I certainly oppose senseless mistreatment of animals.

Same here

I'm against people who mistreat animals just for the hell of it (like that group of students in the UK that microwaved a hedgehog), but I'm also against those annoying charities that beg you to prolong the life of some dog with terminal illness for four more minutes by donating the money to them that could be better used to save the life of an impoverished human child in the world. Animals deserve fair treatment, but my fellow man comes first. Also, I think there should be a limit, and sometimes even a ban on certain pets in areas; some place that harbors a population of critically endangered birds should be cat-free, I don't have a problem with cats, I have two that I love very much, but Fluffy can very well be problematic to an ecosystem where she has little to no predators and plenty of prey. I also think that if feral cat/dog populations are a problem (not too bad in the USA, really bad in some developing countries) you need to euthanize them for the good of the whole ecosystem. Also, animal breeding farms (puppy farms, cat farms, etc.) should be more regulated, the reason America's shelters are full to bursting is because of people who breed dogs like mad, make a ton of puppies that spend their whole lives in shelters.

However, our foodstuff...slaughter them, but do it humanely. Don't drag out the death in anyway shape or form. I know I wouldn't want to be part of a slow painful death if I knew someone was going to eat me X_X .

Why would they drag out the death? That's just inefficient.

I forgot the url, but there is a KFC video of people throwing chickens at walls and what not. Yeah, thats kinda what I'm talking about.

A lot of those videos are fake, the simple fact of the matter is that most of the alleged atrocities (cramming all the animals together into the same godforsaken place to live among their own filth and catch the various diseases that go around like wildfire in a situation like that) make for inefficient business. Dead, disease-ridden animals makes for bad business, though all the major meat companies pay less attention to tainted things than they should (though more food poisonings happen with vegetables), but basically the all-powerful magic of capitalistic choice forces them to pay attention. Logic: A diseased animal has a superb chance of yielding bad meat, bad meat that gets to consumers will cause a rash of food poisonings. Eventually, it will be discovered that the meat was the source of these poisonings; a company that gets a reputation for doing this a lot will go out of business to people who care just enough about the quality of their product.

Oh, and it sickens me that all the anti-lab-testing people are worried about stupid rats when millions of Africans are slowly dying of AIDS.

Well if those videos are true, my eyes don't lie to me. I can't stand "puppy mills" or any of those "animal farm" deals. Those are the places that breed and breed and breed animals and send them off to the pet shops where they are left to rot in cages if nobody wants them. I've seen the puppy mills and hanging in cages while your shit hits the floor and nobody comes to clean it up and getting fed the bare minimum just to be sent off to some pet store is disgusting to me.

 

[crooked_ferret]

That's interesting, because in Australia hunters hunt feral animals mostly (be it cats, pigs, buffalo, cute wikkle rabbits, whatever). They don't necessarily eat all the parts (who would want to eat cat?), but without them, feral populations would be much bigger and local wildlife would be in a much worse state. What may I ask then, is your opinion on those hunters?

I suppose it could be considered a bit cold, but nature has a habit of working itself out. Australia actually used to have super predators, they're all gone now. Along with the Marsupial tiger, that we killed off ourselves already. The last known one, died in a cage I'm sure the people that made that animal extinct thought themselves fully justified as well.
So where do you draw the line. A predator's population will never out grow it's food supply naturally. So you have to consider that this is the result of arrogance on our part.
The north American wolf was also nearly brought to extinction by this same line of thought.

 

[Dancingman]

I think we should make sure that humans get all those things before worrying about the animals. But I certainly oppose senseless mistreatment of animals.

Same here

I'm against people who mistreat animals just for the hell of it (like that group of students in the UK that microwaved a hedgehog), but I'm also against those annoying charities that beg you to prolong the life of some dog with terminal illness for four more minutes by donating the money to them that could be better used to save the life of an impoverished human child in the world. Animals deserve fair treatment, but my fellow man comes first. Also, I think there should be a limit, and sometimes even a ban on certain pets in areas; some place that harbors a population of critically endangered birds should be cat-free, I don't have a problem with cats, I have two that I love very much, but Fluffy can very well be problematic to an ecosystem where she has little to no predators and plenty of prey. I also think that if feral cat/dog populations are a problem (not too bad in the USA, really bad in some developing countries) you need to euthanize them for the good of the whole ecosystem. Also, animal breeding farms (puppy farms, cat farms, etc.) should be more regulated, the reason America's shelters are full to bursting is because of people who breed dogs like mad, make a ton of puppies that spend their whole lives in shelters.

However, our foodstuff...slaughter them, but do it humanely. Don't drag out the death in anyway shape or form. I know I wouldn't want to be part of a slow painful death if I knew someone was going to eat me X_X .

Why would they drag out the death? That's just inefficient.

I forgot the url, but there is a KFC video of people throwing chickens at walls and what not. Yeah, thats kinda what I'm talking about.

A lot of those videos are fake, the simple fact of the matter is that most of the alleged atrocities (cramming all the animals together into the same godforsaken place to live among their own filth and catch the various diseases that go around like wildfire in a situation like that) make for inefficient business. Dead, disease-ridden animals makes for bad business, though all the major meat companies pay less attention to tainted things than they should (though more food poisonings happen with vegetables), but basically the all-powerful magic of capitalistic choice forces them to pay attention. Logic: A diseased animal has a superb chance of yielding bad meat, bad meat that gets to consumers will cause a rash of food poisonings. Eventually, it will be discovered that the meat was the source of these poisonings; a company that gets a reputation for doing this a lot will go out of business to people who care just enough about the quality of their product.

Oh, and it sickens me that all the anti-lab-testing people are worried about stupid rats when millions of Africans are slowly dying of AIDS.

Well if those videos are true, my eyes don't lie to me. I can't stand "puppy mills" or any of those "animal farm" deals. Those are the places that breed and breed and breed animals and send them off to the pet shops where they are left to rot in cages if nobody wants them. I've seen the puppy mills and hanging in cages while your shit hits the floor and nobody comes to clean it up and getting fed the bare minimum just to be sent off to some pet store is disgusting to me.

Another thing that makes my blood boil: crush flicks, it's not killing animals for food, for products, or for the sake of science, it's stomping on small animals until they die for the sake of some fetishist on his computer with his hands down his pants.