Poll: Who do YOU believe fired the Shot Heard Around the World?

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Danny Ocean said:
Well, despite it apparently being a huge thing for everyone on the planet according to the OP, we've never really been taught about it. It's been mentioned in passing, but few details have been divulged. It's more of an event that happened that influenced other things, or conspicuously didn't later on. Generally I've been given the impression that the French would've revolted anyway as other factors were a greater influence.

Probably the minuteman, though. The US peeps were just a militia while the British peeps were organised and such. Yup:

SilverStuddedSquirre said:
The Adams and Russell families were closely connected to Revolutionary figures in Menotomy and Lexington. Joanna Munroe, wife of first settler John Adams (later known as the Centenarian), was the sister of Ebenezer Munroe, a Minuteman who fired the first shot on the British on Lexington green, April 19, 1775 in the Battles of Lexington and Concord.[6] and of Isaac Munroe, who was slain by the British that day. Ebenezer Munroe later removed to Ashburnham.
Huh.. you think they would teach you guys about one of the more successful colonies, that revolted after shitty treatment and went on to becoming the worlds leading super power for a decade or 4.

I mean, we lost vietnam, but they still teach it.
 
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Mcface said:
Danny Ocean said:
Well, despite it apparently being a huge thing for everyone on the planet according to the OP, we've never really been taught about it. It's been mentioned in passing, but few details have been divulged. It's more of an event that happened that influenced other things, or conspicuously didn't later on. Generally I've been given the impression that the French would've revolted anyway as other factors were a greater influence.

Probably the minuteman, though. The US peeps were just a militia while the British peeps were organised and such. Yup:

SilverStuddedSquirre said:
The Adams and Russell families were closely connected to Revolutionary figures in Menotomy and Lexington. Joanna Munroe, wife of first settler John Adams (later known as the Centenarian), was the sister of Ebenezer Munroe, a Minuteman who fired the first shot on the British on Lexington green, April 19, 1775 in the Battles of Lexington and Concord.[6] and of Isaac Munroe, who was slain by the British that day. Ebenezer Munroe later removed to Ashburnham.
Huh.. you think they would teach you guys about one of the more successful colonies, that revolted after shitty treatment and went on to becoming the worlds leading super power for a decade or 4.

I mean, we lost vietnam, but they still teach it.
What? What are you saying please? What is it you think I was not taught?
 

mireko

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wooty said:
I always thought the shot heard around the world was when Archduke Ferdinand was shot in Sarajevo. That shot kicked open a bigger box of fun really.
Came here to post this.

[sub]But I guess it's pretty easy to prove who did that.[/sub]
 
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mireko said:
wooty said:
I always thought the shot heard around the world was when Archduke Ferdinand was shot in Sarajevo. That shot kicked open a bigger box of fun really.
Came here to post this.

[sub]But I guess it's pretty easy to prove who did that.[/sub]
This was in fact the first "Shot heard round the world" Said phrase is now a byword for portentous events historically, and for some reason in sports.
 

Danny Ocean

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Mcface said:
Huh.. you think they would teach you guys about one of the more successful colonies, that revolted after shitty treatment and went on to becoming the worlds leading super power for a decade or 4.

I mean, we lost vietnam, but they still teach it.
We learn about America. Not really about the American revolution. Hell, my entire politics A2 is on the US political system. Half of our History AS was on the US civil rights movement, the other half was on the US in Korea and Vietnam. The USA obviously comes up all the time in Economics. Many of our Geography case studies are also from the USA. It's not like you can ever escape the USA in the news, either.

So don't worry. We learn all about the greatest place on Earth without even trying to.

Apparently the founding of the USA was just one of a great many huge events in British history, and positively pales in direct impact compared to many others.

The impression I have is this: Generally speaking there was a great deal of liberal sentiment around at the time. The US was the first to rebel because Parliament raised taxes without asking them, which violated their rights as Englishmen, and luckily they were far away and received a lot of help from France and Spain. We got bored and sent our troops elsewhere, thinking the USA wasn't really worth all these back-and-forth trips across the Atlantic.
 

Baradiel

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Soviet Heavy said:
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Soviet Heavy said:
Mount Krakatau's eruption. Loudest sound ever heard by mankind.
didnt that happen at least 200 years or more before 1775
1883 actually. I was just being a smartass.
Or... the sound was so loud it travelled backwards through time.

Aha! We've cracked it, my friends!

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I'd say the Minutemen. Undisciplined, frightened, angry men. The British would have been much more disciplined and experienced. They were a regular army, the Minutemen were untrained militia.
 

Blind Sight

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I have money on a misfire, doesn't matter what side they were on, those muskets were the problem.
 

Hectix777

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Evilpigeon said:
Most likely the americans, you guys were the radicals fighting for your beliefs.
We are radical, dude! You are a radical dude! EXCELLENT!!! *guitar solo*

i love bill&ted
 

Hectix777

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this isnt my name said:
America, they started lots of trouble, liking Washinton saying he assasinated a french messenger.
Asshole, totally dosent deserve to be remembered as a good guy, fucking started a war where people died because he was a fucking idiot.
Thank you for insulting my nation's forefather, you really are a man of change and truly a member that believes in a global community
 

Hectix777

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FinalHeart95 said:
The templars. Those bastards.

...And thus Assassin's Creed 3 was born.
Than does that make America the Assassin's or are the Assassin's the French or Spanish?
 

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Grab your powder and grab your gun
Report to General Washington.

Ah, memories...anyway, I'm going to guess it was the Minutemen. The thought of a British soldier, who at the time was trained to stand up in the middle of gun fire, not seek cover, not rush, and follow orders regardless, panicking and firing--or worse, firing without permission from the commanding officer--is nigh impossible.

EDIT: And now I see the post above me has the actual song. Neat.
 
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Hero in a half shell said:
Jerious1154 said:
Please tell me thats not how American history is taught in schools, it was entertaining and informative, but totally biased.
I repeat: using USA source material, find evidence of the war of 1812. Try. See if they mention the White House being burned to the ground. See if they mention the war at all. We went home because we ran out of beer, and it was almostHockey season
 

emeraldrafael

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The minute men fired first. They were more po-ed and had more reason too.

But then again, thats like asking who started the Boston Massacre

But besides that, you're giving the US too much credit. It wasnt JUST thirteen colonies. it was also France, half the native people, and some of the Spanish too. Really, if the Atlantic Ocean hadnt taken so long to cross back then, our Revolution would have been put down extremely fast.
 

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SilverStuddedSquirre said:
mireko said:
wooty said:
I always thought the shot heard around the world was when Archduke Ferdinand was shot in Sarajevo. That shot kicked open a bigger box of fun really.
Came here to post this.

[sub]But I guess it's pretty easy to prove who did that.[/sub]
This was in fact the first "Shot heard round the world" Said phrase is now a byword for portentous events historically, and for some reason in sports.
I just said that Shot Heard 'Round The World was coined by Ralph Waldo Emerson (Star-Spangled Banner anyone?) as an opening line in his poem Concord Hymn. THAT was the first SHRTW (yes i made it an acronym, sue me) because it inspired EVERYONE in the world to revolt against their oppressors, the Revolutionary War led to the French Revolution, the Greek Revolution, and the foundation of liberals and conservatives. It was remarkable that itty-bitty America, beat big bad England. So it would give alot of people the ballz to stand up to their tyrants. Point:Archduke dying, NOT THE FIRST SHOT; American Revolution: REAL FIRST SHOT. Wikipedia guys, thats how i found this out.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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I think the Minutemen are more likely to have fired the first shot.. Simply b/c they were less trained and less disciplined.. It's likely that one of them got nervous and just fired out of fear..
 

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Hero in a half shell said:
Dude, thats school house rock. thats like, not even first grade. Of course we dont learn like that. Thats like saying you learn your concept of physics from cartoons. Please, dont insult the US education that much.

SilverStuddedSquirre said:
Do you want a source? Cause we do learn about it. we just learn it was a draw in the end. The US got too big for its britches and wanted to stick it to the brits to the north, but we planned poorly and didnt have the aide of france this time. Eventually the war was fought back to a draw and nothing really changed, and the most famous battle was fought after the war was officially over (we just hadnt gotten word here in the states, damn atlantic ocean).

We also learned the the US officially "lost" the war cause our capital was burned down, which is rather dumb really. If that was true, we wouldnt still be the US. It was basically Vietnam in the 1800s and was something of a blemish on both countries' histories.
 

emeraldrafael

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Hectix777 said:
yeah, wikipedia's nto the best source.

Anyway, the first "shot heard round the world was actuallly a tomahawk to the head of the French guy who went to meet washington that lead to the French and Indian (seven years for you across the pond) War. That was the first real World War too. Then the Revolutionary war was the second, WW1 was really WW3, WW2 was WW4 and this thing thats going on in the middle east is something of WW5.