Sure. I go to Penny Arcade every Wednesday to check out the new video.
Also, this.natster43 said:
Poll: Who still watches Extra Credits?
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My problem with it (can't speak for everyone) was more the way James went about the whole split, which was clearly just as much to start his own thing as it was due to the fact that he had a (legitimate) problem with the Escapist for not paying its bills on time. He escalated it to a degree that it didn't need to go to at all, and did it in a rather manipulative manner by saying things that were both meant to draw the viewers to his side, and were sometimes divorced from the facts. It's one thing to casually inform viewers that due to problems with getting paid and because he wanted to start his own thing, he's going to take his show off the Escapist, and quite another to have turned it into the sh*tstorm that it became.w00tage said:
Also the fact that he decided to use the extra money to do a company thing rather than, say, giving it to a game-related charity (many of which exist) or directly handing it out scholarships/grants to indie game studios (rather than adding the whole publisher caveat), or just paying for the costs to run the show, speaks volumes about James' intentions and where his mindset was. It's fine that he wanted to do that from the start, but the fact that he never bothered to admit that irked me quite a bit.
But that's not really news. People can become addicted to anything to a debilitating degree.curiousborg said:
Some of their early episodes were ok, but then it turned into pretentious, preachy, "games are art. What is money? What are shareholders?" bullshit.
Then they raised $100,000 from contributions under the pretense of paying for a medical procedure, pay for it and give Allison Theus a small amount to pay bills, and use the rest to start a company. I have a feeling a lot fewer people would have donated if they had said "We are going to use any surplus (what is surplus will be defined by us) for our own gain".
I had no interest after that.
Then they raised $100,000 from contributions under the pretense of paying for a medical procedure, pay for it and give Allison Theus a small amount to pay bills, and use the rest to start a company. I have a feeling a lot fewer people would have donated if they had said "We are going to use any surplus (what is surplus will be defined by us) for our own gain".
I had no interest after that.
Except it's not for their own gain. It's a non-profit venture to help budding indie developers get the chance to create games. Half the profits from any games that they produce are split to the developers, and the other half goes straight back into the fund.Frost27 said:
I don't see how they're personally gaining anything from this.
The Game Addiction episode was the exception to the norm. I started watching it, got bored, and stopped. It was right back to form the next week. The only problem I have with it now is it uses Blip tv and I HATE Blip in general. Otherwise, I still watch it. They seem to be the only people on the internet who want to have a serious discussion about games.
HEAR! HEAR!Comrade_Beric said:
I still watch the show every week thanks to the youtube reminders they put up providing a link to Penny Arcade but my god those two episodes were preachy as fuck. I got two minutes or so into the first part, saw the youtube comments from people saying crap like "Oh my god James, this touched me so much I cried after watching it" and quite swiftly said "Yeah...I'm out".
Others may have already said this, but you should go back and give them another chance. After that very serious two-parter (which I didn't particularly care for either) the show went back to being fun and educational.Comrade_Beric said:
The last several episodes, focused on Science Fiction related topics, have been particularly good. You should seriously go back and give them another shot.
i stopped watching after they left. even though that whole kerfuffle left me on their side and not wanting to return to the escapist (that lasted about a day, damn you boredom) but inever got around to watching anymore of their episodes. which is weird, because i check penny arcade everytime it updates.
A private entity that invests a portion of it's own funds into a game project it feels has the potential of being commercially successful if funded. Once the property is out of development and up for sale, said entity then receives a portion of the profits from the sales in order to continue to do what it does by putting it's backing behind (and name on) additional IPs.knhirt said:
What I just described is James' description of the company they started. It is allso a nutshell description of Activision, EA, etc. It is the description of a publishing company. The only thing "indie" is the small time developers they will be funding.
I still watch it, I think it's a great series.
It's not perfect but it takes a serious look on the development of gaming in larger picture and adresses a lot of subjects I find interesting and wich I believe are crucial to discuss to further a medium that's still in it's infancy.
The gaming addiction episodes were heavy but It took a lot of courage for James to do that.
Made me think....like most of their episodes do.....wich I enjoy.
It's not perfect but it takes a serious look on the development of gaming in larger picture and adresses a lot of subjects I find interesting and wich I believe are crucial to discuss to further a medium that's still in it's infancy.
The gaming addiction episodes were heavy but It took a lot of courage for James to do that.
Made me think....like most of their episodes do.....wich I enjoy.