Poll: Why do players in RDR firmly expect to not be attacked while doing challenges?

[DazZ.]

I play on PvP servers whenever I have the chance, I prefer killing PCs rather than NPCs.
Of course you're going to get ambushed, it's what people do.

Just ambush them first.

But what if they dont want to, whta if what they want to do is play alongside other people, at beating the game raher than each other.

Deathmatch is for people who want to spend all their time killing PCs, other modes that are there to give people other things to do.

Is free roam the only game mode they have for that? No sort of co-op between just the party invited?

If not I'm sure there will be eventually if this is actually that big a deal.

 

[chstens]

The more I hear people complain, rage and whine about the Free Roam, the more I want to play it (Really, I do, because me and my friend will be the guys shooting you in the face and steal your horses)

 

[Janus Vesta]

The more I hear people complain, rage and whine about the Free Roam, the more I want to play it (Really, I do, because me and my friend will be the guys shooting you in the face and steal your horses)

Tell me what platform you play on so I can avoid you.

 

[Jamash]

From what I can gather from reading message boards and my own experience with the game, I think a lot of the problem is that the griefers are exploiting the casual aiming setting, so they're not killing people because they're better at the game, but because they can press 2 buttons simultaneously and have the will to grief.

The casual aiming setting gives you automatic lock-on, automatic target tracking, and turns the aiming dot red when you have a kill shot, so all you have to do is hold down the left trigger and the game will automatically lock onto a person and track them, even through cover, even when you can't physically see them and haven't spotted them.

To be a casual aim griefer all you have to do is stand on a high point or hide by couching in some bushes (it doesn't matter if all you can see is shrubbery), repeatedly tap the left trigger until the reticule turn red, then hold the left trigger and fire... you don't even have to see or be aware of your victims, all you have to do is fire when aim dot turn red and you've got a kill.

If free roam enforced manual aiming then it wouldn't be so much of a problem because you'd have a chance to defend yourself, seeing as the first shot wouldn't necessarily kill you could get into cover, retaliate or escape... but when people are using causal, laser sighted, fire and forget aiming, usually the first indication you get that someone with hostile intentions is in the vicinity is when their magic bullet makes you take a dirt nap.

 

[Lemon Of Life]

I love shooting my posse when they least expect it.

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[small]why does no one love me[/small]

 

[chstens]

The more I hear people complain, rage and whine about the Free Roam, the more I want to play it (Really, I do, because me and my friend will be the guys shooting you in the face and steal your horses)

Tell me what platform you play on so I can avoid you.

The Playstation, and eventually PC (hopefully)
Now don't think I'll be killing people and stealing their horses all willy nilly, I'm a reasonable guy. I'll most likely end up robbing trains or something.

 

[Krantos]

If you're in equally sized gangs, sure, fine, whatever.

However, I was online with a single friend the other day and we kept getting stalked by a group of six while trying to do gang hideouts. That's just being dicks. Picking a fight where both sides have a chance of winning is good fun, but when you outnumber the other people by 3:1 and they're not doing anything to you then you're just being a group of prepubescent pricks who take 3 friends with you to pick a fight with someone smaller than you and then call them a coward when they refuse.

It might be different in RDR if it weren't for the fact that some achievements and what not have to be done in public matches.

 

[Sarahcidal]

nothing more frustrating than a group of campers who continuously spawn kill your and your posses over and over again while you're trying to complete a task... then when you finally do get away most of them will follow you and continue spawn killing you.. drives me crazy

 

[go nana go]

Don't get mad then when
your griefing ass is booted
Cant handle it? HA!

 

[Billion Backs]

Don't call 'em cowboys till you see 'em ride.

Seriously, a bunch of wimps. Online content is created for manhunts.

If I had the game, I'd be a no-good backstabbing cowboy. Help someone do something, have them drive off away from town, shoot 'em in the back, steal the horse and the valuables, ride away to spend it on booze and whores.

Now that's livin'

 

[Billion Backs]

From what I can gather from reading message boards and my own experience with the game, I think a lot of the problem is that the griefers are exploiting the casual aiming setting, so they're not killing people because they're better at the game, but because they can press 2 buttons simultaneously and have the will to grief.

The casual aiming setting gives you automatic lock-on, automatic target tracking, and turns the aiming dot red when you have a kill shot, so all you have to do is hold down the left trigger and the game will automatically lock onto a person and track them, even through cover, even when you can't physically see them and haven't spotted them.

To be a casual aim griefer all you have to do is stand on a high point or hide by couching in some bushes (it doesn't matter if all you can see is shrubbery), repeatedly tap the left trigger until the reticule turn red, then hold the left trigger and fire... you don't even have to see or be aware of your victims, all you have to do is fire when aim dot turn red and you've got a kill.

If free roam enforced manual aiming then it wouldn't be so much of a problem because you'd have a chance to defend yourself, seeing as the first shot wouldn't necessarily kill you could get into cover, retaliate or escape... but when people are using causal, laser sighted, fire and forget aiming, usually the first indication you get that someone with hostile intentions is in the vicinity is when their magic bullet makes you take a dirt nap.

Cough consoles cough.

Aimbot as a game feature, how original. Those controllers must be awesome for FPS play.

 

[TerranReaper]

Ahh yes, the free roam setting quickly devolving into a deathmatch setting, reminds me of Gmod, just building whatever and having some idiot coming to kill you and trying to justify it. My opinion on this varies, if there is a gang hunting an equally sized gang, then fair enough. If you're hunting maybe one or two guys, then that's a bit out of line in my opinion. Since I don't really have the game, I can't really say for sure on the mechanics of the online play, but it seems like you can easily get spawn camped and you need to find better weapons, if this is the case, then their reason for being frustrated is justified. Frankly though, it's usually more of the people wanting to annoy other players, so I'm more on the side of the people that are frustrated.

 

[Swarley]

I voted for pie, tasty, tasty pie.

 

[Baby Tea]

Aimbot as a game feature, how original. Those controllers must be awesome for FPS play.

You're on probation for trolling, and you post flamebait like that?
The aiming feature is in place of a 'difficulty' option. You can absolutely play in Expert mode, which is free aiming. In Free Roam, however, the method used is up to the discretion of each individual player. So while many of us might use Expert, the griefers will obviously only use 'easy'.
That's not a flaw with the game, that's just people being dicks.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

You shouldn't complain, but it is still really annoying. Wait to be shot at before you shoot.

Still they are wimps XD

 

[RobCoxxy]

Well, when a 6 man posse was spawncamping our three man posse in the mine on one objective, we had every right to be pissed off I think.

 

[soulasylum85]

if you dont like the people in the game with you just go to a new free roam session or create a private one. and please kwitcherbitchin

 

[Billion Backs]

Aimbot as a game feature, how original. Those controllers must be awesome for FPS play.

You're on probation for trolling, and you post flamebait like that?
The aiming feature is in place of a 'difficulty' option. You can absolutely play in Expert mode, which is free aiming. In Free Roam, however, the method used is up to the discretion of each individual player. So while many of us might use Expert, the griefers will obviously only use 'easy'.
That's not a flaw with the game, that's just people being dicks.

I didn't realize constructive criticism was the same as trolling.

And it's very much a fact that controllers suck at precision aiming, and some kind of sticky targeting or aimbot are some of the features often used to battle it. Which opens up a lot of underhanded tactics, including the one described somewhere above - being able to rely on aimbot without actually seeing your opponent due to shrubs being in the way.

But then again, whatever gets in the game is legit as long as it remains in the game.

 

[Rofl-Mayo]

I think it makes it more of a challenge, so it would be more fun and yeah, those who get pissed about things like that are wimps.