Poll: Worst things about MW2

[Hosker]

I kinda need an "all the above" button there.

I remeber back in COD2 there was no such thing as camping/noobtoobing/knifing/akimbo-shotgunners.

:/ back when shooters were real and not full of crap.

You make a game back with this many problems back in the day, and your company goes bankrupt.

I can remember camping in COD 2, it was just not nearly as bad as it is in more recent ones. No claymores.

 

[postzit]

how about the fact that the first person shooter genera has killed the game industry?

*genre

and that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

sorry I misspelled genre, but that doesn't make it stupid
have you seen any original games since Halo came out?
no, of course not
because ever since then retarded assholes (like you) only buy FPS games
so developers cater to the dumb crowd so they can get a return on investment without doing any work.

so it's not the FPS genre that's killed the game industry, it's you, and everyone like you

you've made a monopoly on the game industry so there's only
the FPS douchebags
the RPG nerds
the Nintendo fanobys
and the people who only buy sequels and copies of old games

and guess which of those groups is easiest to please

so you're telling me if u was a manger to a successful store you wound't decide to try push the thing people want most its called common sense if people like it people will buy it. its called supply and demand.

also you said we killed the game industry which makes no sense in its sense if anything we made it better as now more company's will see the opportunity to breach out into a fairly new market and of course at first they will realise FPS and WoW clones but guess what when loads of people do it more ideas come about some the new FPS will be better and then they will get better until its reached it peak as a game everyone can enjoy.

Also you said have you seen anything original since halo came out and even if you are talking about just the FPS genre then yes we have seen it expand into loads of fantastic groups you have the CoD fans you have the halo fans then you have the retro fans the big three of course but then you have littler groups such as alternative people who play games like portal and mirrors edge(as someone already mentioned)then there's the cross breading such as fallout with the first person RPG and so i think we haven't ruined the game industry in fact i think we have improved it as if we went to the past and instead of FPS got popular and say halo wasn't realised do you think gaming would be the same in fact gaming would be much smaller like it was before where as you can talk to people about games today if it wasn't popular it would be a little secret that you can't share and many people wouldn't have got there recognition they deserved such as bungi who would only be famous for oni or even smaller company like roaster teeth you wound't know who they were.

but I suppose on topic the most annoying thing on MW2 might the restricted party access on certain game types so I cant talk to my friends normal as people are always trying to call you a ****** or some dumb shit

 

[ssgt splatter]

All of these things piss me off to a certain degree but it's people who yell into their mic that get me the most.

 

[Mikeyfell]

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you know what....I think we're arguing the same points

we have different definitions of "original"
Portal and Bioshock are both Awesome games
so are Fallout 3 and Oblivion
and if MW2 is the only CoD you own you're not in the group of FPS Douchebags I'm insulting

you seem quick to insult my intelligence while defending the position that sequels are original.

You spend your time on Xbox Live and you think I'm stupid.... do you play with the tv muted?

since you like FPS the problem isn't as glaring for you

since this argument won't end anytime soon I'm going to respond to a bunch of posts in a Halo Reach thread

 

[theriddlen]

It's existence.

 

[skennedy929]

you know what....I think we're arguing the same points

we have different definitions of "original"
Portal and Bioshock are both Awesome games
so are Fallout 3 and Oblivion
and if MW2 is the only CoD you own you're not in the group of FPS Douchebags I'm insulting

you seem quick to insult my intelligence while defending the position that sequels are original.

You spend your time on Xbox Live and you think I'm stupid.... do you play with the tv muted?

since you like FPS the problem isn't as glaring for you

since this argument won't end anytime soon I'm going to respond to a bunch of posts in a Halo Reach thread

Hey, agree to disagree on a few points is fine with me. Just try and realize people can be really into games like CoD and still have an extensive history with gaming of all types. Not everyone fits into an easy rubric.

Just don't say no original games have come out since Halo, and don't say FPSes are killing gaming, everything else is opinion and it seems like we enjoy the same games anyways...

I mute everyone I play with on XBL, except the group I play most of my games with. Playing with friends is fun, playing by yourself is awful. That's why I usually have one online game and one immersive single player game going at the same time.

No hard feelings, sorry I insulted you and called you a 14 year old.....that was cold.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I don't hate Modern Warfare 2. In fact, I like it a lot.

So, where the hell is my "Modern Warfare 2 is pretty good" option?

 

[Wolf Devastator]

People... Still... Play... The Game...

^ The real problem.

 

[Mikeyfell]

how about the fact that the first person shooter genera has killed the game industry?

*genre

and that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

sorry I misspelled genre, but that doesn't make it stupid
have you seen any original games since Halo came out?
no, of course not
because ever since then retarded assholes (like you) only buy FPS games
so developers cater to the dumb crowd so they can get a return on investment without doing any work.

so it's not the FPS genre that's killed the game industry, it's you, and everyone like you

you've made a monopoly on the game industry so there's only
the FPS douchebags
the RPG nerds
the Nintendo fanobys
and the people who only buy sequels and copies of old games

and guess which of those groups is easiest to please

so you're telling me if u was a manger to a successful store you wound't decide to try push the thing people want most its called common sense if people like it people will buy it. its called supply and demand.

also you said we killed the game industry which makes no sense in its sense if anything we made it better as now more company's will see the opportunity to breach out into a fairly new market and of course at first they will realise FPS and WoW clones but guess what when loads of people do it more ideas come about some the new FPS will be better and then they will get better until its reached it peak as a game everyone can enjoy.

Also you said have you seen anything original since halo came out and even if you are talking about just the FPS genre then yes we have seen it expand into loads of fantastic groups you have the CoD fans you have the halo fans then you have the retro fans the big three of course but then you have littler groups such as alternative people who play games like portal and mirrors edge(as someone already mentioned)then there's the cross breading such as fallout with the first person RPG and so i think we haven't ruined the game industry in fact i think we have improved it as if we went to the past and instead of FPS got popular and say halo wasn't realised do you think gaming would be the same in fact gaming would be much smaller like it was before where as you can talk to people about games today if it wasn't popular it would be a little secret that you can't share and many people wouldn't have got there recognition they deserved such as bungi who would only be famous for oni or even smaller company like roaster teeth you wound't know who they were.

did you even read my comment, no, didn't think so

FPS's are killing games because that's the only thing new developers are making
imagine if no one could make another FPS.
think about all the wonderful creative things Bungie or Infinity Ward could do with all their money.
but it's a lot easier and more profitable to release Modern Warfare or Halo again

Every year big developers should just make up some new IP (that's not an FPS) and sell it
and when ever they need money just release some Halo clone
that would fix shit.

 

[FightThePower]

I play on PC, so shitty connections and rampant hacking is what got me to stop playing that game.

But the crippling balance issues definitely helped.

 

[Azure Sky]

[Keep in mind I play PC, not 360]

Sure, it's not the most balanced game in the world, but no FPS is. (I am only lv 30ish? 40ish? so I could be wrong)
The most annoying things about the game have little to do with the game itself.
-Butt-munches that scream/cuss/flame/*****/etc down the mic.
-Lag.
-Mods. (That's both modded lobbies and keyboards, I assume modded controllers fall under this as well)
-Hackers.

 

[FightThePower]

portal is an FPS, Dead Space is not original, Bioshock is Systemshock, Halflife 1 predates Halo
as does Fall out 1, and Elder Scrolls 1. at least try not to sound like a fucking retard. 3 of those games have fucking NUMBERS on the end of them you FUCKING DUMBASS. you can't say a sequel is an original game, not even retarded ass you

LOL.

 

[Barry93]

Care Packages. Just a terrible idea. I'm just cruising along on my 20 kill streak and some noob pulls a chopper gunner our of no where with his little 3 kill streak w/ hardline.

The spawning system. Especially maps like Terminal where you continously spawn in the same room every time if you're on the side closest to the jet. Spawning outside with enemy killstreaks in the air, then dying 2 seconds later also wasn't too bright on IW's part.

No option to turn off late join. I quit every game I late join in anyway; creating a bizzare scenario where I have a 0.30 W/L yet a 3.03 K/D. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to be tossed into a game that can not be won with an enemy team that has 7 kill streaks in the air and with a team that can't even get their K/D for that match above 0.25

Would be nice to have some balanced maps for once. On a side note, putting recycled terrible maps from CoD4 with increased graphics in the map pack won't make them any better.

Other than that, I really don't care what perk, weapon, or attachment people use; My class can beat just about any strategy/class they throw at me.

 

[postzit]

how about the fact that the first person shooter genera has killed the game industry?

*genre

and that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

sorry I misspelled genre, but that doesn't make it stupid
have you seen any original games since Halo came out?
no, of course not
because ever since then retarded assholes (like you) only buy FPS games
so developers cater to the dumb crowd so they can get a return on investment without doing any work.

so it's not the FPS genre that's killed the game industry, it's you, and everyone like you

you've made a monopoly on the game industry so there's only
the FPS douchebags
the RPG nerds
the Nintendo fanobys
and the people who only buy sequels and copies of old games

and guess which of those groups is easiest to please

so you're telling me if u was a manger to a successful store you wound't decide to try push the thing people want most its called common sense if people like it people will buy it. its called supply and demand.

also you said we killed the game industry which makes no sense in its sense if anything we made it better as now more company's will see the opportunity to breach out into a fairly new market and of course at first they will realise FPS and WoW clones but guess what when loads of people do it more ideas come about some the new FPS will be better and then they will get better until its reached it peak as a game everyone can enjoy.

Also you said have you seen anything original since halo came out and even if you are talking about just the FPS genre then yes we have seen it expand into loads of fantastic groups you have the CoD fans you have the halo fans then you have the retro fans the big three of course but then you have littler groups such as alternative people who play games like portal and mirrors edge(as someone already mentioned)then there's the cross breading such as fallout with the first person RPG and so i think we haven't ruined the game industry in fact i think we have improved it as if we went to the past and instead of FPS got popular and say halo wasn't realised do you think gaming would be the same in fact gaming would be much smaller like it was before where as you can talk to people about games today if it wasn't popular it would be a little secret that you can't share and many people wouldn't have got there recognition they deserved such as bungi who would only be famous for oni or even smaller company like roaster teeth you wound't know who they were.

did you even read my comment, no, didn't think so

FPS's are killing games because that's the only thing new developers are making
imagine if no one could make another FPS.
think about all the wonderful creative things Bungie or Infinity Ward could do with all their money.
but it's a lot easier and more profitable to release Modern Warfare or Halo again

Every year big developers should just make up some new IP (that's not an FPS) and sell it
and when ever they need money just release some Halo clone
that would fix shit.

so then they would send money that they possibility wont get back trying to create a crazy new idea at the hope if it does fail they could Crete a clone that has more chance of failing the succeeding you also got to remember that most publishers do mostly one genre or close to that genre so they can use things like engines over again like gearbox they released borderlands a fairly successful game which has made a lot of money so instead of doing something crazy again that has more chance of failing compared to there last game they decided to take on duke nukem a game that by people will buy why because despite what you think the world inst out to make you fell happy people want to make money by the easiest way possible that is to make clones is this a bad thing no this is how we progress one a market gets full then they expand I don't fill like the FPS genre is out of ideas yet there's still millions of ways to take the games meaning sure tons of halo clones but you saying halo was a bad game no by all means people try to copy a game that has by all rights started a cult as the only way people will take notice if people then tweak that game on which they do making it seem better and that is how we progress though competition and also if you think that all there is is FPS out there then you sir are a fucking moron maybe if you move out of the FPS section of the store you will see games that are expanding to new horizons there are just as many RPG's action adventures and even RTS then there are FPS just get your head out of your ass and look to say the gaming industry is dead then you sir deserve to die with it as I think we are just about to see the gaming world expand to better things then we can imagine.(sorry for lack of punctuation and things just im kinda tired and I don't really care XD)

 

[FightThePower]

Don't waste your time arguing with him, he's clearly an idiot.

 

[Jroo wuz heer]

Commando is pretty infuriating and unfair.

But I'm gonna have to go with Last Stand and Final Stand, I hate those so, so much.

Reward the shitty players, punish the good ones. Nice one, IW.

seriously? if it annoys you so much,use any of the 90% of ALL perks to improve your abilities at a range and not let them get that close.
you complain about them like it makes them invincible, but it only improves their abilities within 5 feet. perks dont make all-around better players, they specialize them in certain areas.

 

[Azure Sky]

So use it... or stop complaining. There is no "player moral high ground" That's bullshit. Like in real warfare, there are no rules, you kill the guy before he kills you. Backstab, knee the groin gouge a eye. They want to make you into thin paste and you want to "pretend" your a better person no using a weapon available to you? Your fault...

Game. Set. Match.

When I'm playing against a guy doing the Lightweight/Marathon/Commando setup, I throw it right back at him, and I'm pretty fucking good at it.

When I am getting killed by somebody camping a really clever spot I sneak all the way around behind him and knife his ass.

When I'm holding down a building and waves of enemies keep coming to die by shotgun blast to the face why on Earth would I move? I'm not being cheap, you guys are being stupid. Somebody pulls that shit with me and I'll whip out Danger Close and rain hell into that building. It's called strategy.

I play with a crew, usually a full team, and you would not believe the scorn we get. Not uncommon at all for us to go 7500-1000, and we aren't all-stars or anything. it's a group effort of communication, killstreak combinations, and holding down an area. Camping you say? Not when we own half the map.

Nothing I like more than a close match of people who didn't think the game was called "Call of Duty: Modern Bitching" I like getting schooled by some tricksy bastard, keeps me on my toes.

Bingo. It really is pathetic how people just can handle rules and try to make up their own.
I ALWAYS found the zerg charge tactics a of FPS moronic, the camping whines...

It's like playing chess and the other demands your queen can only move like a pawn because he can't handle it, or the free parking make up rules for monopoly. If you wanna play by those rules and have friends abide by them fine...

Tell me to have to adopt to your LOW standards because you can handle a little grenade launcher? Hell that's the first thing i'm grabbing cause you just told me your weakness...

If your gonna win, do it right...

If you demand people play to support your weakness...don't even try.

This on all counts.

Here's a surprising one, I don't have problems with commando knifers. (Unless I am lagging..) Why? Because when I started I used a similar style because I had nothing unlocked. How does that help? I learned what my weaknesses were when I used it.

 

[kouriichi]

I kinda need an "all the above" button there.

I remeber back in COD2 there was no such thing as camping/noobtoobing/knifing/akimbo-shotgunners.

:/ back when shooters were real and not full of crap.

You make a game back with this many problems back in the day, and your company goes bankrupt.

I can remember camping in COD 2, it was just not nearly as bad as it is in more recent ones. No claymores.

I wouldnt call it camping. It was always more of defending.
It seemed like teams played more carefully then they do these days.

Now its all run and gun, where as before people would play more defencively as a whole.

The only gripe i ever had with COD 2 was lagging out because of mass smoke grenades, but even then it was ussually a joke with us.

I used to go to this lan place and play there with 9 or 10 people, and we would all yell "Smoke the house" and lob smokes into this one spacific building. Then everyone would bum rush in and fire manically like a bunch of idiots.

Good times, good times 8)

 

[Mikeyfell]

how about the fact that the first person shooter genera has killed the game industry?

*genre

and that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

sorry I misspelled genre, but that doesn't make it stupid
have you seen any original games since Halo came out?
no, of course not
because ever since then retarded assholes (like you) only buy FPS games
so developers cater to the dumb crowd so they can get a return on investment without doing any work.

so it's not the FPS genre that's killed the game industry, it's you, and everyone like you

you've made a monopoly on the game industry so there's only
the FPS douchebags
the RPG nerds
the Nintendo fanobys
and the people who only buy sequels and copies of old games

and guess which of those groups is easiest to please

so you're telling me if u was a manger to a successful store you wound't decide to try push the thing people want most its called common sense if people like it people will buy it. its called supply and demand.

also you said we killed the game industry which makes no sense in its sense if anything we made it better as now more company's will see the opportunity to breach out into a fairly new market and of course at first they will realise FPS and WoW clones but guess what when loads of people do it more ideas come about some the new FPS will be better and then they will get better until its reached it peak as a game everyone can enjoy.

Also you said have you seen anything original since halo came out and even if you are talking about just the FPS genre then yes we have seen it expand into loads of fantastic groups you have the CoD fans you have the halo fans then you have the retro fans the big three of course but then you have littler groups such as alternative people who play games like portal and mirrors edge(as someone already mentioned)then there's the cross breading such as fallout with the first person RPG and so i think we haven't ruined the game industry in fact i think we have improved it as if we went to the past and instead of FPS got popular and say halo wasn't realised do you think gaming would be the same in fact gaming would be much smaller like it was before where as you can talk to people about games today if it wasn't popular it would be a little secret that you can't share and many people wouldn't have got there recognition they deserved such as bungi who would only be famous for oni or even smaller company like roaster teeth you wound't know who they were.

did you even read my comment, no, didn't think so

FPS's are killing games because that's the only thing new developers are making
imagine if no one could make another FPS.
think about all the wonderful creative things Bungie or Infinity Ward could do with all their money.
but it's a lot easier and more profitable to release Modern Warfare or Halo again

Every year big developers should just make up some new IP (that's not an FPS) and sell it
and when ever they need money just release some Halo clone
that would fix shit.

so then they would send money that they possibility wont get back trying to create a crazy new idea at the hope if it does fail they could Crete a clone that has more chance of failing the succeeding you also got to remember that most publishers do mostly one genre or close to that genre so they can use things like engines over again like gearbox they released borderlands a fairly successful game which has made a lot of money so instead of doing something crazy again that has more chance of failing compared to there last game they decided to take on duke nukem a game that by people will buy why because despite what you think the world inst out to make you fell happy people want to make money by the easiest way possible that is to make clones is this a bad thing no this is how we progress one a market gets full then they expand I don't fill like the FPS genre is out of ideas yet there's still millions of ways to take the games meaning sure tons of halo clones but you saying halo was a bad game no by all means people try to copy a game that has by all rights started a cult as the only way people will take notice if people then tweak that game on which they do making it seem better and that is how we progress though competition and also if you think that all there is is FPS out there then you sir are a fucking moron maybe if you move out of the FPS section of the store you will see games that are expanding to new horizons there are just as many RPG's action adventures and even RTS then there are FPS just get your head out of your ass and look to say the gaming industry is dead then you sir deserve to die with it as I think we are just about to see the gaming world expand to better things then we can imagine.(sorry for lack of punctuation and things just im kinda tired and I don't really care XD)

don't worry about the punctuation I rarely ever punctuate properly either

are you saying that originality is bad?
copied game play is good
you should listen to yourself

what happened to action games and platformers
and games like Shadow of the Colossus and Beyond Good and Evil, and all the other games that didn't fit into a genre?

If people with money and brand loyalty tried to make new stuff other people would follow suit and the industry would comeback to life
and you can't say that that's a bad thing, it wouldn't make sense.

also, you think I'm stupid look at this

I am so fucking sick of realistic cover-based combat. Not that I think there's anything wrong with it as a gameplay mechanic. It does the job. It creates an adequate system of offense, defense and evasion. But it's also boring and routine, always coming down to the same thing: waiting for a guy fifty yards away to stand up, then aiming squarely at his position until he does it again enough times for one of your shots to hit the mark. Half the time you're just trading shots, hoping your mutant healing factor will outlast his unsecured cardboard helmet. And so many games have it now it's like having to hear the same lecture delivered by a new professor every bloody week.

that's from his "Extra Punctuation" article