President Obama Awarded Nobel Peace Prize

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Seanchaidh

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tipp6353 said:
u mean fucking up our country even more and putting the U.S in even more debt
I'm sorry, you must be confused. We had an election in 2008 and installed a new President in 2009.
 

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Well, I know absolutely nothing about Politics or anything like that, but if I were to guess i'd say that maybe he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for all the effort he's put in to advocating Peace. I don't know for sure, but that's the general idea that I get from the article.
 

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Well I'm just waiting for all those yanks to GTFO of Iraq...
About 70% of the Yanks are waiting for the troops to come home or go to Afghanistan, where we should have been in the first place. So you Europeans aren't alone in that endeavor.

The hardest part for Obama to remove troops from Iraq is that the entrenched Republicans then go on a retarded honking spree that drowns out addressing more important things in Congress.

On the same note, the morons who keep saying that we or Obama's PR people are responsible for Obama's Nobel Peace Prize should probably look at who actually awards these things. It's a Norwegian panel that includes a few European representatives. Obama even said he's kinda confused as to why they awarded it to him.

I also don't think he deserves it yet either, but I'm sorta loving it that it's pissing off the Republicans and the right in this country. It proves that it doesn't take much reversal of the wrongheaded direction the previous administration had for diplomacy to make someone seem more impressive than they really are.
Yeah I agree with you, except I think they should get out Afghanistan too, after they've stabilized the place. Nobel prizes are important things, so i'm not sure if he's deserved it either.
PS. I'm Australian, but I get your point.

JimmerDunda said:
TacticalAssassin1 said:
Well I'm just waiting for all those yanks to GTFO of Iraq...
Why should you give a shit?
Because I don't think that shooting up Iraq is the best way to go about entertaining the troops, that's why. Ok, my serious answer is that they don't need to be there and all the Iraqis don't want them there so they should just go home and eat some apple pie or something.
 

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Superbeast said:
Maybe for getting an agreement to cut the number of nuclear weapons?

In terms of global peace that's quite a big one, especially since G.W.Bush's pushing for the "missile defence system" in Poland was escalating Russia to begin practising nuclear launches...

If it's not for that then I dunno why he's been given it, but then I haven't really been up-to-date with what he's been doing lately (firstly I'm in Britain and secondly at uni with no TV so haven't been watching the nightly BBC news).
Yeah, it has something to do with nuclear weapons removal (that's the gist of the information I've gathered). I can't disagree if it has to do with getting rid of those things.
 

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Danny Ocean said:
Mother Teresa- She opened a few convents (Which she then, admirably, worked in.) and spread the idea of, "Hey, let's try being nice for a change.". Obama's spreading the same idea, and more to the same tune, what makes him less deserving?
Seriously??? You're comparing Obama to Mother Teresa? That made me smile. That's hilarious. I'll spell out the differences and what makes Obama LESS deserving of it than Mother Teresa.

Mother Teresa: Spent her LIFE personally serving the poor and the sick. She moved to Calcutta, one of the poorest cities on earth to help the people there. She started missionaries in most communist nations. (That's no small feat by the way.)I've never heard any mention of her living in a huge mansion or flying on her private jet.

Obama: Was a community organizer, a US senator part time while campaigning to be president, and got elected president. Oh, and he gives great, (but very vague,) speeches. That's pretty much his record at the time of the deadline for nominations.

Any award that is given for good INTENTIONS and positive goals, regardless of if they're reached or not, is a pointless and insignificant award.

Tenmar, to answer your question, no. No one deserves a prestigious award for trying and failing. You can tell them "Nice try. I hope you do better next time." People should be encouraged to try difficult things, but don't give them a huge reward for failing.

As for "working with Iran," Iran has a long history of making agreements and then breaking their word. What good is talking to and getting an agreement with someone who's a chronic liar? Inspections will be needed; real inspections, not watered down "we'll be there in 6months. Is that ok with you?" inspections. That's the real test of any agreement that gets made with Iran.

EDIT: oh, and thanks to the person who posted the info about the WWII nominee who actually saved lives, but lost to Al Gore. Didn't her actions save well over 1,000 people's lives? Perfect example of the uselessness of this prize.
 

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Oh, good, at least I'm not the only one confused.

I do believe, though, that he has made various attempts to shut down the use of nuclear weapons, and maybe a reason as to why he won a Nobel Peace prize.
 

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Barak Obama certainly wouldn't the first person I'd award the Nobel Peace price to at the moment. However, he still deserves it much more than Al Gore (what the hell has global warming to do with peace?!) and this might put additional pressure on him to make sure he still deserves it.

Ah well, who knows what will happen in the next four or eight years during his presidency. This might be overly optimistic but he might just become the one that puts an end to the conflict between Israel and Palestinia.
 

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Kermi said:
Valiance said:
"The Nobel Committee said he was awarded it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples"."
Isn't that the president's fucking job?
I lol'd

But on topic, yes that IS one of his obligations that he has to make sure that America stays strong as a nation.

I do agree he has done a bit more than some of our past presidents to promote peace, but with people like Mother Theresa and Mahatma Gandhi winning the prizes before as well, makes him kinda pale in comparison...
 

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People who idolize Obama or think that what he is doing is good for the country do not understand how to think long term. Conservatives always hope you will understand what they are doing...liberals always hope that you won't. It is all power grabs for one thing. They are quickly turning this into a socialist nation through tugging on the heart strings of the public. For example it is really nice to want to help the poor, or give sick people health care, but if you are going to destroy the economy of the entire nation by increasing business taxes on business owners to pay for it then sorry it is not worth it. Saying that sounds cruel despite being truthful, but that is just the way it is. Liberals have an idealistic and unrealistic view of things. This is coming from someone who has been a democrat and liberal for over 10 years, and who at the time thought Clinton was the best president around. As I aged I realized the extreme damage liberal policy is doing to the country.

Oh and I know how everyone likes the idea of taxing those eeeevil rich people to pay for the trillions (a number we didnt use very much until Obama got in office, now it is the standard) in spending that the administration using, but its a badly thought out idea. Rich people own business and employ people, increasing their taxes just makes them move their business or not build it here in the first place. I live in Ohio which has a stupidly high tax rate and suprise suprise, no one wants to build anything here. Go south a couple states to Tennessee which has ZERO state income tax and you find a state who's growth rate far exceeds ours.
 

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grimsprice said:
Its just one massive PR job to try and save face when he can save the country from descending into chaos. Honestly, no president could ever affect the country, let alone Obama. Presidents don't have power, they're in office to draw attention away from it. He's got a good pr department though...
like some dude on teh bus said:
"president is great, but it doesn't work that way, he's have to establish a whole newe congress scratch that ENTIRE GOVERNMENT to actually make a difference, he's the president, but he's still just one man"
 

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deadman91 said:
Haven't they already had the prizes this year? Didn't Al Gore win?

There's something screwy here going on here...
Yea he won for Enviromentalism, for bringing notice to Global Warming....um they have been talking abotu it for decades now so fail.

And Barrack won in Health in Science for is Health Care reform.......ummm I believe Canada beat him to it about ohhhhh 70 years ago.
 

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Direct Link [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm]

US President Barack Obama has won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, selected from a field of 205 nominees.

Now, forgive my ignorance and I'm hoping not to get flamed for this. But what for?

I don't know nearly enough of his political or diplomatic history to comment and I know they don't give out Nobel Prizes for collecting enough cereal box tops.
Honestly, I have no idea.. seems like a great guy.. probably the best president in ages... but.. that's a thinker.
Its been less than a year. He clearly isnt the best in ages or we wouldnt be in a recession. I dont like Obama much, but honestly not many people were happy he won. He honestly didnt deserve it. He has ideas and has a good heart, but he hasnt proven it yet.
 

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Zeeky_Santos said:
grimsprice said:
Presidents don't have power,
Conspiracy theorist much?

Think about it, the president may not have all the decision making power, his cabinet has to agree with him. But who gets to pick the Cabinet? The president, thats who.
His cabinet has even less power than he does. They're just advisors. So what was your point again?