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Baneat

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Dragonpit said:
Baneat said:
There may be a little misunderstanding of the scope of the cogito

It's not "That which thinks is proven to exist"

It is merely "I" which is proven to exist, while "I" am thinking, "I" must exist as there must be an "I" producing said thoughts, which are at the basest level of existence.

You are indeed correct in that it doesn't stop the infinite regression of justification that he was hoping for, one can still doubt the nature of "I".

I'll be back with a newer, curvier throw.
So how do you prove a world exists then?
You tell me, no philosopher has successfully done it.
 

Ruuvan

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I hope to see a reply when I get back from work tomorrow, so I'll leave you with another couple of questions, this time from Postal: If you were in a box, how would you think outside it? And what is the difference between a duck?
 

TiloXofXTanto

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Ruuvan said:
Having read all 11 pages of this thread, what has deteriorated more: My eyesight or my IQ?

And another one: If someone has the time to answer random questions three days on the trot, what job does that man have that he can sustain himself financially?

Oh, and: What are the Euromillions lottery numbers coming up on Saturday 21st May 2011?
1) Your IQ, it drops 0.000000000000000012% every second that you live without being asleep, while your eyesight's deterioration is quite variable.
2) Doing this, and being paid on bet money that I'm able to keep doing this without losing my sanity and/or hair. Quite seriously though, I'm a vagabond with a stolen computer, and I'm currently without much need for money.....what, that's not believable?
3) hmm, my best guess (having no idea how the Euromillions lottery works) would be...NOTHING BECAUSE MAY 21st IS THE DAY OF RAPTURE AND WE ARE ALL DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!
....in all seriousness, my guess is 12, 24,五十一, 14, and 7. Just a guess though.

Dragonpit said:
If Mary left her house at about 5:00 pm, and at a rate of 60mph traveled a distance of 100 km, who will be sleeping with her that night?
Your mom.....'s drunken step-father?
That or a man wearing a giant duck as a hat.
 

TiloXofXTanto

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Ruuvan said:
I hope to see a reply when I get back from work tomorrow, so I'll leave you with another couple of questions, this time from Postal: If you were in a box, how would you think outside it? And what is the difference between a duck?
1) Astral Projection and/or a boxcutter I have in my pocket for the specific reason of opening all of these damn packages that people keep sending me. Freaking stalkers and their creepy gifts that make growling noises and ......

I'm getting off track.

2) The difference between a duck is around 6% because that is the relative average difference between side A of a duck and side B.
 

TiloXofXTanto

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Dragonpit said:
So how do you prove a world exists then?[/quote]

With 12 pints, 2 hammers, 50mg, and a sparkly colored ball that makes everything sound believable and possible....
but in all seriousness, with omnipotence, and you have to possess it, if anyone else does, then you can still doubt your own existence regardless of their self-secured existence. Plus, you can doubt his existence as well, even though he probably won't be able to doubt his own.
 

TiloXofXTanto

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One Hit Noob said:
If light is the fastest thing in the world, does that make it a ninja? *pose*
No, it makes it a samuninjabullguncheecar.
Which is like 70000000000x the speed of a ninja.
 

Free Thinker

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If Goku and Superman fought over the last slice of pizza and the world was destroyed, is bacon still delicious and the best food ever?
 

TiloXofXTanto

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Free Thinker said:
If Goku and Superman fought over the last slice of pizza and the world was destroyed, is bacon still delicious and the best food ever?
No, for pigs would sadly be destroyed for all eternity, leading to the extinction of all bacon based food products.....except for tactical bacon that would freeze in space and cease to be delicious.
 

TiloXofXTanto

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U235 Is The Bomb said:
subtlefuge said:
If everyone in the world was sleeping at the same time, would the universe cease to exist?
Good question; allow me to take it too far.

If the universe exists, it only exists for the period of time that it is being observed in, according to quantum mechanics. Any observation made about the state of the universe would collapse the wavefunction of the universe itself. If the universe is in a state of being unobserved by everyone, then it is a superposition of all possible states, existing or not existing. This state of the universe being an uncollapsed wavefunction is only resolved when an observer wakes up and observes the universe, causing the wavefunction to collapse and form a one universe. It's sort of like blowing up the Schrödinger's cat experiment to the size of the universe, with the living cat representing our existing universe, and the dead cat being our universe ceasing to exist. "What's a wavefunction?" I hear you ask. The short answer: it's a probability thing .

So in answer to your to your question: yes and no at the same time, so therefore possibly maybe? Whatever, just make sure that someone is keeping an eye on the universe when you go to sleep, or else who knows what might happen.
You're wrong, part of the Schrödinger's cat experiment is that only outside observers are unaware, inside observers/involved participants (the cat) are the only beings aware of their own state.
In addition, we would still be observing the universe anyway, just not with our eyes. Touch/hearing still mostly work while most humans sleep.
Not to mention every extraterrestrial and their mother would also have to fall asleep to justify such a situation.
 

TiloXofXTanto

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Ultratwinkie said:
1. Why do people constantly bring Science into an argument of Metaphysics (A topic where science no longer applies, and has no actual foundation) in the Religion & Politics board?

2. Where do the scientific Laws come from? Not what they do, but how they came about to be a governing force.

3. Why do Humans consider things cute? Where did that notion come from? And what role does that play in evolution? Or is it a a side effect of consciousness/Sentience?
1) Because science is often seen by most as a thing which can explain most everything, confusing the concept of science with empiricism. And while empiricism is one of the philosophies that has given birth to modern science, it does not encompass all possible experiences and beliefs, and is slightly outdated and out of place in a religious argument....unless you're trying to justify atheism, in which case...yeah 100% correct way to use it in such an argument.

2) Scientific law is anything that happens in this universe, without question, and without exception, that cannot be disputed and is not proven through normal means.
For instance, Newton's law of universal gravitation is indisputable, gravity works, we are attracted to large objects in space, the moon has not floated away, and the Earth isn't flying directly past the sun into the great beyond. A scientific law is proven simply because it is.

Do not confuse law with theory, as a law is simply an observation proved through repeated observation, while a theory is an explanation for a phenomenon that is proven through repeated experimentation and has become widely accepted by the scientific community. Examples would be cell theory, the theory of relativity, and the theory of evolution, they all exemplify something about the universe that we have proven to be true (to the best of our current ability) through experimentation, observation, and repeated modelling/experimentation, BUT they can all be overturned by another new discovery in the universe, such as a living being composed of individual molecules instead of cells.
A law cannot be disproved, as it is just an observation on the world, and you can't really experiment against something like gravity.

3) The ability to perceive something as cute is an instinct that humans have developed to keep from murdering children. It is part of your maternal and paternal instincts and has expanded past just children due to sentience and definitions of the word, combined with association via language.
 

TiloXofXTanto

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U235 Is The Bomb said:
We're doing that now, there is no way I can live on without doing this...you've likely caused the apocalypse by giving me this idea, and now I'm doing it.

General_Potatoes said:
Why can't I stop buying nerf blasters?
Because advertisers are good at their jobs and you're a human who enjoys shooting people without getting arrested for murder/assault/battery.

Nerfherder17 said:
No offence, but is this thread really the best use of your free time?
I'll admit, no, but this time is so hard to fill that I just kind of feel that this would be the most fun I could have without crashing my computer/obsessively researching a trivial topic/breaking laws.

Anjel said:
TiloXofXTanto said:
Sorry if you've already had this one but... 12 pages, ya know?

A cat, standing on its hind legs, just about to get down. The photo is blurry, but easy to see through.
 

UltraDeth

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Ooh, I love these

Can I buy you a drink?

How high is up?

Who shat in the hat?

What comes after thrice?
 

TiloXofXTanto

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UltraDeth said:
Ooh, I love these

Can I buy you a drink?

How high is up?

Who shat in the hat?

What comes after thrice?
1) That's not a question..
2) Buy me a drink and I'll tell ya.
3) ∞
4) Stephen Colbert, he's decided to declare war on all hats, that's how he told the diplomat.
5) Founce......probably.