Rare needs to get back with Nintendo

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Stammer

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shatnershaman said:
Captain I detect some insult on this M class quote.
Spock.....we....must......respond....Khan!!!

I did not like Battletoads,Jet force, or blast corps so what? Rare still was the second best dev (after Nintendo of course) in the N64 era.
It's not so much an insult as it is a jab at the fact that you play WoW. It's a stereotype that I created about WoW players that they don't like any good games. Though, I know it's about as true as the whole stereotype about Canadians saying "aboot" instead of "about".

You didn't like Battletoads, JFG, or Blast Corps? You also say that you don't like Perfect Dark 64 and that you don't have much to say about Banjo Kazooie. How can you say that it's your second favourite development team? lol
 

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Stammer said:
It's not so much an insult as it is a jab at the fact that you play WoW. It's a stereotype that I created about WoW players that they don't like any good games. Though, I know it's about as true as the whole stereotype about Canadians saying "aboot" instead of "about".

You didn't like Battletoads, JFG, or Blast Corps? You also say that you don't like Perfect Dark 64 and that you don't have much to say about Banjo Kazooie. How can you say that it's your second favourite development team? lol
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I hate Blizzard and ALL of its games most of all WoW I just really found the commercial extremely funny. (I played WoW for 30 min at my Warcracked friends house and all I did was dance naked for money.)

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Goldeneye and donkey kong
 

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Back on topic, relatively speaking. I don't believe the quality of a game would be different if it were made for different consoles. You make the assumption that since the Rare games for the N64 were great, if they made games for the Wii they would also be good. I disagree. Is technology progresses, the company is going to try to stretch the limits of its creation. Sure it may have a rep from higher-up telling what the game should have in it, but it is still the responsibility of the game company to work with it and develop it. Sure, the execution may not be what was expected, but it's extremely rare(no pun intended) for every game from a developer company to be absolute gold.
 

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Stammer said:
EDIT: Actually, aside from PD:Zero, I don't really know of any other games that really sucked. But I'm kinda projecting from that seeing as a really kickass company made a sequel to a really kickass game that sucked.
Well, they did do Grabbed By The Ghoulies, which was a genuinely atrocious game. But so was Starfox Adventures, which was a Rare game on the Gamecube. And DKC64 was a mediocre game at best. So I'd argue that Rare's game quality hasn't got much to do with Nintendo, really. You might not like Kameo or Viva Piñata, but that doesn't stop them from being solid and well made games.
 

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Woe Is You said:
Well, they did do Grabbed By The Ghoulies, which was a genuinely atrocious game. But so was Starfox Adventures, which was a Rare game on the Gamecube. And DKC64 was a mediocre game at best. So I'd argue that Rare's game quality hasn't got much to do with Nintendo, really. You might not like Kameo or Viva Piñata, but that doesn't stop them from being solid and well made games.
Good point Woe I forgot about Star Fox Adventures.
 

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shatnershaman said:
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I hate Blizzard and ALL of its games most of all WoW I just really found the commercial extremely funny. (I played WoW for 30 min at my Warcracked friends house and all I did was dance naked for money.)

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Goldeneye and donkey kong
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In that case, then I stand by my stereotype as being entirely true. Also, I like you as a human being and semi-anonymous internet user a whole lot more already.

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Interesting. I have no further questions. Your witness.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Because its stealth. If the person sitting next to you were to shift their gaze 5 degrees to the left, they would see that you're waiting in a barrel beside a dumpster in an alley, and take advantage of this.
You could have playlists that set guests on your own team (is MGO only free for all?).
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
No, there are other aspects to it (Team capture the base, Team Capture the Duck, Team Deathmatch, Team Snake Eater - Yes, all of these are real, even if the Capture the Duck isn't technically called that) , but allowing two-player in online is a faulted concept, since you play offline to play solely with your friends.
You don't know any friends that live near you and far away? You don't find it fun to kick ass with against others with someone beside on the couch?

 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Edit : Here's why (most) games don't have split screen anymore (Resistance, once again, proves itself to be a rebel with Split screen co-op and multiplayer. So did Haze, actually)
Goddamn Indigo, you really love you some of your resistance don't you?
 

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Why did the PS3 get involved with this?

I think Nintendo will buy back Rare if the New Banjo games goes badly. Microsoft will want to sell and Nintendo has the money.
 

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Fire Daemon said:
Why did the PS3 get involved with this?

I think Nintendo will buy back Rare if the New Banjo games goes badly. Microsoft will want to sell and Nintendo has the money.
They still have Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise.
 

Rob Sharona

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It depends who are on the team. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were ace, then the people responsible left Rare and formed/joined (not sure which) a different company and created the totally awesome Timesplitters, while existing developers created Perfect Dark Zero.

I used to love Rare games because they were the exactly like Nintendo, ie. putting gameplay and originality first, putting a high quality finish on the overall product, and creating a roster of memorable characters. The same feeling I get when a new Mario or Zelda is coming out I got when Rare announced a new game.

I think its such a shame that Nintendo didn't fight to keep Rare on board, especially since the end result means we miss out on the retro downloads for the next gen consoles.

I really miss the Rare/Nintendo partnership, but it makes me feel better that at least gems like Kameo and Viva Pinata are being produced, especially for an audience that usually gobble up repetitive shooter sandbox tripe.

On a different note, it infuriates me that so many 360 owners bash the hell out of Rare. They'd get the love they deserve from the Nintendo diehards :)
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
And I'm also annoyed at the news of Resistance 2 using a dual wield system and seeming to lack a health bar. Fuck.
Well the old way didn't nab them 8.1 million in sales maybe copying will.