Realism, Except for women or Are there any real girls in video games.

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Hitokiri_Gensai

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AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
of course they're all real! didnt you know all us girls have MASSIVE tits and asses and kick more ass than a rugby game on speed?
I know right? And we all have waists so thin you can stab us with a fork and we will fit between the prongs, really quite handy no?
completely! we're ALL like that, swear to god.
 

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Hitokiri_Gensai said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
of course they're all real! didnt you know all us girls have MASSIVE tits and asses and kick more ass than a rugby game on speed?
I know right? And we all have waists so thin you can stab us with a fork and we will fit between the prongs, really quite handy no?
completely! we're ALL like that, swear to god.
Exactly, now excuse me I need to slip into my size -2 clit-huggers and practice switching from Ice-Queen to Sex Goddess.
 

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Bitterness aside, try playing some of Funcom's games, in particular their duology "The Longest Journey" and its sequel "Dreamfall", both containing (a different one each game) well written, realistically proportioned and well dressed female protagonist. And they're good old fashioned adventure games, so hey~
 

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There was this lady that called me a gypsy in GTA4.

I'm surprised that people's ideas of real women in video games are "well characterized" or "competent" or "conservatively dressed".

In real life, regardless of gender, most people are none of these things.
 

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intheweeds said:
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Not that I can think of, but seriously, I would gladly play another space marine shooter if the protagonist were a REAL butch dyke. Maybe i never see myself represented, sure lesbians are in popular culture, but only if they are pretty enough. I don`t mean the stereotypical fat, motorbike riding leather vest wearing type people, either. Those people make us look bad. Just a woman who happens to be more masculine or androgynous treated like a normal person. They have a whole show called The L Word which is nothing but lesbians all day everyday and they STILL don't have any real butches. Occasionally you can find one sitting in the background in a bar scene, but that's about it. The kind of woman who naturally gravitates towards more masculine ventures.
Hmm, someone like Trinity from The Matrix? Of course before she went all gaga eyes for Neo she seemed to have that vibe. Or Corky from 'Bound' [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_23lZ6Iv50Q] (also a Wachowski brothers film)?

The thing is I think that guys like butch gals to a similar extent as girls like the "sensitive guy" you know, the meterosexual type.
Corky from Bound - nail on the head.
Trinity is pretty close, but I always get that sexy boss vibe from her, idk why, like she's only tough to be sexy. I'm thinking of Lucy Liu in that 'Barracuda' Charlies Angels scene. The one where shes walking through the office in the high heels. (not that there's anything wrong with that!)

Edit: Ah, in retrospect, Corky wears a bit more makeup than i find realistic, but what do you expect from hollywood? Gina Gershon nailed the attitude and demeanor anyway.
Hmm, so if Corky's attitude/demeanour was right, just a bit more "practical" makeup.

How about Michelle Rodriguez?

I would give examples from games but it's kinda hard to tell if Lara Croft (classic 1996 look) is wearing makeup or not.
 

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AdeptaSororitas said:
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Erm

Jill Valentine and Claire Redfield are pretty good female leads. I would argue that in game and not media twisted Lara Croft is a very strong character. Alyx Vance is the one that is always touted. Things where you make your own lead are pretty good, Fallout for example and Jennifer Hale as femshep. Assassins Creed has some great female characters, Caterina Sforza in particular was awesome.

I would say Bioware pretty much have girls down, now all we have to do is get them to work on the men. It's risky... but the priiiize.
I thought the same of Jill until...
I agree with you, they shouldn't have done that to her.
 

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AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
of course they're all real! didnt you know all us girls have MASSIVE tits and asses and kick more ass than a rugby game on speed?
I know right? And we all have waists so thin you can stab us with a fork and we will fit between the prongs, really quite handy no?
completely! we're ALL like that, swear to god.
Exactly, now excuse me I need to slip into my size -2 clit-huggers and practice switching from Ice-Queen to Sex Goddess.
i was gonna say "lemme go load up my weapons" but considering i have a weapons room that would shame most third world countries... lets just go with, i need to change out of my ass kicking clothes into a dress that shows off mah tits!
 

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
xXxJessicaxXx said:
Erm

Jill Valentine and Claire Redfield are pretty good female leads. I would argue that in game and not media twisted Lara Croft is a very strong character. Alyx Vance is the one that is always touted. Things where you make your own lead are pretty good, Fallout for example and Jennifer Hale as femshep. Assassins Creed has some great female characters, Caterina Sforza in particular was awesome.

I would say Bioware pretty much have girls down, now all we have to do is get them to work on the men. It's risky... but the priiiize.
I thought the same of Jill until... snip
What? I think she looks cool. If I had that ass and I was an ex military assassin that's what I would wear.
I would have to say they were the strongist female leads i have seen in a video game so far
 

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Treblaine said:
intheweeds said:
Treblaine said:
intheweeds said:
Not that I can think of, but seriously, I would gladly play another space marine shooter if the protagonist were a REAL butch dyke. Maybe i never see myself represented, sure lesbians are in popular culture, but only if they are pretty enough. I don`t mean the stereotypical fat, motorbike riding leather vest wearing type people, either. Those people make us look bad. Just a woman who happens to be more masculine or androgynous treated like a normal person. They have a whole show called The L Word which is nothing but lesbians all day everyday and they STILL don't have any real butches. Occasionally you can find one sitting in the background in a bar scene, but that's about it. The kind of woman who naturally gravitates towards more masculine ventures.
Hmm, someone like Trinity from The Matrix? Of course before she went all gaga eyes for Neo she seemed to have that vibe. Or Corky from 'Bound' [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_23lZ6Iv50Q] (also a Wachowski brothers film)?

The thing is I think that guys like butch gals to a similar extent as girls like the "sensitive guy" you know, the meterosexual type.


Corky from Bound - nail on the head.
Trinity is pretty close, but I always get that sexy boss vibe from her, idk why, like she's only tough to be sexy. I'm thinking of Lucy Liu in that 'Barracuda' Charlies Angels scene. The one where shes walking through the office in the high heels. (not that there's anything wrong with that!)

Edit: Ah, in retrospect, Corky wears a bit more makeup than i find realistic, but what do you expect from hollywood? Gina Gershon nailed the attitude and demeanor anyway.
Hmm, so if Corky's attitude/demeanour was right, just a bit more "practical" makeup.

How about Michelle Rodriguez?

I would give examples from games but it's kinda hard to tell if Lara Croft (classic 1996 look) is wearing makeup or not.
Michelle Rodriguez is kind of cheating since she's already an admitted bisexual, but I forgive her for being uber-sexy! None of these are really sitting completely right with me, though. I thought for a minute before posting and i think i figured out why.

All this demeanor talk means nothing if the girl 'looks' like she could be straight. You know those girls where you see them on the street and there can be no mistake: that is a gay woman. Either that or you don't see them because you think they are a guy from a distance. Here is an example:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUq-V6xOC5VA6yM4ZUJFwSLvn5Jjp-8NGdeCxEIda7zVEyZRZ-
This specimen was found on Page 1 of a google image search for 'butch women'. This one is still a puppy, however, when she is fully grown in a few short years, she will be a textbook example. Men will probably not find her attractive, but i promise you this one does well with the ladies. (please ignore the hair, butch lesbians have approximately five hairstyles our g/fs let us wear, and unfortunately Beiber stole one from us leaving it forever tainted)

Here is another excellent example:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u4vBDfeLO8A/Su1S5MfNIkI/AAAAAAAAAzI/k9G_Z8USfHs/s320/kristy's+shoot+236.JPG
This woman gets around the haircut problem by using the time honored lesbian tradition of just wearing a hat ALL the time. Note the tank top worn as a shirt over blue jeans - a classic lesbian uniform.

I guess for me it's the obvious gayness i want to see. A woman who probably gets called 'Sir' a lot and whose mother is constantly whining about how she 'used to be so pretty'. Someone who probably faces some discrimination like I do. (i'm well aware that 'lipstick lesbians' have they're own mostly opposite problem with invisibility, but this isn't about that)

Idk if i made any sense, but at least the butch photos were fun to caption. :)

a few seconds of further research shows that the first picture is in fact a woman named Jill Lybarger - who is an MMA fighter with an apparently very good record. The second picture is just random dyke #542371
 

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Hitokiri_Gensai said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
of course they're all real! didnt you know all us girls have MASSIVE tits and asses and kick more ass than a rugby game on speed?
I know right? And we all have waists so thin you can stab us with a fork and we will fit between the prongs, really quite handy no?
completely! we're ALL like that, swear to god.
Exactly, now excuse me I need to slip into my size -2 clit-huggers and practice switching from Ice-Queen to Sex Goddess.
i was gonna say "lemme go load up my weapons" but considering i have a weapons room that would shame most third world countries... lets just go with, i need to change out of my ass kicking clothes into a dress that shows off mah tits!
Make sure to wear your absurdly high high heels. I'm thinkin 12 inches?
 

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Beautiful End said:
-Bonnie McFarlane (Red Dead Redemption): You can kinda feel an awkward kind of tension between John and Bonnie. But she's got responsibilities; a father to look after, a ranch to run, she's pretty much the man of the house ranch in a time where this was frowned upon. She's gutsy but not...gay? I mean no offense.
Agreed. :) I started playing this game about a week ago and this was actually my first thought when I met her!
 

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intheweeds said:
Treblaine said:
How about Michelle Rodriguez?
Michelle Rodriguez is kind of cheating since she's already an admitted bisexual, but I forgive her for being uber-sexy! None of these are really sitting completely right with me, though. I thought for a minute before posting and i think i figured out why.

All this demeanor talk means nothing if the girl 'looks' like she could be straight. You know those girls where you see them on the street and there can be no mistake: that is a gay woman. Either that or you don't see them because you think they are a guy from a distance. Here is an example:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUq-V6xOC5VA6yM4ZUJFwSLvn5Jjp-8NGdeCxEIda7zVEyZRZ-
This specimen was found on Page 1 of a google image search for 'butch women'. This one is still a puppy, however, when she is fully grown in a few short years, she will be a textbook example. Men will probably not find her attractive, but i promise you this one does well with the ladies. (please ignore the hair, butch lesbians have approximately five hairstyles our g/fs let us wear, and unfortunately Beiber stole one from us leaving it forever tainted)

Here is another excellent example:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u4vBDfeLO8A/Su1S5MfNIkI/AAAAAAAAAzI/k9G_Z8USfHs/s320/kristy's+shoot+236.JPG
This woman gets around the haircut problem by using the time honored lesbian tradition of just wearing a hat ALL the time. Note the tank top worn as a shirt over blue jeans - a classic lesbian uniform.

I guess for me it's the obvious gayness i want to see. A woman who probably gets called 'Sir' a lot and whose mother is constantly whining about how she 'used to be so pretty'. Someone who probably faces some discrimination like I do. (i'm well aware that 'lipstick lesbians' have they're own mostly opposite problem with invisibility, but this isn't about that)

Idk if i made any sense, but at least the butch photos were fun to caption. :)

a few seconds of further research shows that the first picture is in fact a woman named Jill Lybarger - who is an MMA fighter with an apparently very good record. The second picture is just random dyke #542371
I'm a straight guy but I find both of those women attractive. Or I don't know... interesting. Most of my writing I seem to end up writing about butch women though I've never developed their relationships much. I learn from the mistakes of Ian Fleming: if you can't write romance/intimacy well, then don't write it at all*. So their sexuality is always ambiguous if not irrelevant.

(*that's what I can't stand about Fleming, he is awful at romance and intimacy. Classic British male author, really: Good at adventure and high-living but no clue with women. Not that I know personally that much, but I do know what I don't know... if you know what I mean.)

But yeah, the way I like my protagonists are female but tough and no nonsense, especially no nonsense like high-heels, fancy hair or impractical nails. And yeah, the rebooted (first reboot TR: Legends/Anniversary) I just found to be too fragrant and fancy. The original Lara, was much more in the right direction.



or consider this evolution of Lara Croft:



over the years she has gotten curvier, the neckline of her top has plunged and more of her midriff exposed, pointlessly. She seemed to be wearing a one-piece swimming costume and shorts originally, but now this silly tank-top and ultra tight and tiny shorts. Yeah, she is latterly more attractive but I'd much rather BE the original Lara with a snarly grin of a woman you don't want to fuck with, not the fragrant semi-pout of latter Lara.

Oh god, Anniversary; they made her a wimp, getting all tearful over shooting a guy twice her size who was about to kill her. I get it that women are more in touch with their feelings, but why should she even feel bad about defending herself from a murderous scumbag? She should be relieved she survived and succeeded. Lara is supposed to be a female adventurer to hold her own with the likes of Zorro, Indiana Jones and James Bond. Indy when faced by a swordsman just pulls his gun and calmly shoots him, and not beat himself up over it afterwards.
 

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I'm going to take an easy route and suggest that anyone look to the earlier Ghost Recon games for not only realistic female characters, but realistic characters in general.

While each Ghost is an utmost professional, they all have unique backgrounds and personalities that shine through the serious tone of the games.
 

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Alyx is the best example, obviously, but I do think, like it has been said, they were really trying too hard.

Lara in the upcoming Tomb Raider has potential, but let's see how that goes.
 

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AdeptaSororitas said:
Gill Kaiser said:
Your post is barely comprehensible.
Your post has literally no purpose. It neither contributes to the thread nor encourages discussion. Congrats.
Actually it DOES contribute, as it informs you AGAIN that your original post is not clear in what it is actually asking.

Your original post and subsequent dismissals are stifling discussion.
 

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AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
of course they're all real! didnt you know all us girls have MASSIVE tits and asses and kick more ass than a rugby game on speed?
I know right? And we all have waists so thin you can stab us with a fork and we will fit between the prongs, really quite handy no?
completely! we're ALL like that, swear to god.
Exactly, now excuse me I need to slip into my size -2 clit-huggers and practice switching from Ice-Queen to Sex Goddess.
i was gonna say "lemme go load up my weapons" but considering i have a weapons room that would shame most third world countries... lets just go with, i need to change out of my ass kicking clothes into a dress that shows off mah tits!
Make sure to wear your absurdly high high heels. I'm thinkin 12 inches?
Wait, are you two secretly the character creators for Bayonetta? ;)
 

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kyogen said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
of course they're all real! didnt you know all us girls have MASSIVE tits and asses and kick more ass than a rugby game on speed?
I know right? And we all have waists so thin you can stab us with a fork and we will fit between the prongs, really quite handy no?
completely! we're ALL like that, swear to god.
Exactly, now excuse me I need to slip into my size -2 clit-huggers and practice switching from Ice-Queen to Sex Goddess.
i was gonna say "lemme go load up my weapons" but considering i have a weapons room that would shame most third world countries... lets just go with, i need to change out of my ass kicking clothes into a dress that shows off mah tits!
Make sure to wear your absurdly high high heels. I'm thinkin 12 inches?
Wait, are you two secretly the character creators for Bayonetta? ;)
Damn! Hes on to us! Quick, act like ice-queens!

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