Respect

[whycantibelinus]

So, I just had a kind of revelation. Recently my girlfriends grandma, who is 84, while we were at my girlfriends sisters house who happens to live with her boyfriend, who happens to be a very very good friend of mine, rudely said to me, "Hats are for outdoors, anytime you are indoors you need to take off a hat." I regularly wear a hat, and anytime I have been inside my buddy's house I have had a hat on. Now, I listened to her and respectively took off my hat for the evening. Since it was not her house, nor her right to request something like this would you, fellow Escapists have done the same thing. In retrospect I feel that I should not have, and will not in the future, follow her wishes unless it be in her own house.

What would/will you guys do?

 

[Amnestic]

So, I just had a kind of revelation. Recently my girlfriends grandma, who is 84, while we were at my girlfriends sisters house who happens to live with her boyfriend, who happens to be a very very good friend of mine, rudely said to me, "Hats are for outdoors, anytime you are indoors you need to take off a hat." I regularly wear a hat, and anytime I have been inside my buddy's house I have had a hat on. Now, I listened to her and respectively took off my hat for the evening. Since it was not her house, nor her right to request something like this would you, fellow Escapists have done the same thing. In retrospect I feel that I should not have, and will not in the future, follow her wishes unless it be in her own house.

What would/will you guys do?

Punch her in the jaw.

Or take off my hat. It's only a fucking hat, Jeebus.

 

[whycantibelinus]

So, I just had a kind of revelation. Recently my girlfriends grandma, who is 84, while we were at my girlfriends sisters house who happens to live with her boyfriend, who happens to be a very very good friend of mine, rudely said to me, "Hats are for outdoors, anytime you are indoors you need to take off a hat." I regularly wear a hat, and anytime I have been inside my buddy's house I have had a hat on. Now, I listened to her and respectively took off my hat for the evening. Since it was not her house, nor her right to request something like this would you, fellow Escapists have done the same thing. In retrospect I feel that I should not have, and will not in the future, follow her wishes unless it be in her own house.

What would/will you guys do?

Punch her in the jaw.

Or take off my hat. It's only a fucking hat, Jeebus.

It's a matter of respect, not the hat sir.

I don't know if i respect the old mean ***** enough to follow her wishes outside of her own home.

 

[Skeleon]

Meh, in this case it's not worth the trouble.
I would've done exactly what you did.

 

[Raven's Nest]

Take off my hat and not get offended.

 

[Greasemoicockneypalm]

The thing about old people is that they come from a time when morality, bravery, honour, duty and respect were words with real meaning, and back then kids respected their elders because they recognized that older people were valuable, and far more wise than they were. On top of that, you'd get a smack if you were an uppity little shit who wouldn't take his hat off indoors. Taking your hat off is an ancient sign of respect, showing that you aren't hiding your identity/are comfortable leaving your head unprotected. Same thing with shaking hands, it shows you aren't holding a weapon in them.

Just respect your elders mate, they're better than you or me.

 

[Keepitclean]

Well the way she said it was pretty rude and disrespectful but for the sake of keeping the peace i would have taken of the hat. I mean its not like it has chipped your pride or anything has it?

 

[Space Spoons]

I'm a great believer in the principle of respecting one's elders. In a situation like that, I think the right thing to do would have been to comply with her wishes. You're probably right in your belief that she didn't really have the right to ask such a thing of you, but then again, she's many, many years your senior, and asking something relatively harmless of you. Why not?

That, and she's your girlfriend's grandmother. You don't want to make a bad impression with her family, do you?

 

[Keepitclean]

lol

 

[grimsprice]

The thing about old people is that they come from a time when morality, bravery, honour, duty and respect were words with real meaning, and back then kids respected their elders because they recognized that older people were valuable, and far more wise than they were. On top of that, you'd get a smack if you were an uppity little shit who wouldn't take his hat off indoors. Taking your hat off is an ancient sign of respect, showing that you aren't hiding your identity/are comfortable leaving your head unprotected. Same thing with shaking hands, it shows you aren't holding a weapon in them.

Just respect your elders mate, they're better than you or me.

Thats horse shit. I respect my elders. But not because i think they're better than me. Simply because i tend to respect the wishes of everyone. Respect everyone until they give you cause not to. Elder or not.

 

[Krythe]

I fucking hated my grandmother and had to hold myself back from throwing a party when she died. I believe you can extrapolate from that.

No one is entitled to respect. Respect by its very nature - a reverance for one's abilities, talents, and being - has to be earned. If you haven't established any of that, it's like walking into a university on the first day and saying "give me my degree".

 

[Gmano]

So, I just had a kind of revelation. Recently my girlfriends grandma, who is 84, while we were at my girlfriends sisters house who happens to live with her boyfriend, who happens to be a very very good friend of mine, rudely said to me, "Hats are for outdoors, anytime you are indoors you need to take off a hat." I regularly wear a hat, and anytime I have been inside my buddy's house I have had a hat on. Now, I listened to her and respectively took off my hat for the evening. Since it was not her house, nor her right to request something like this would you, fellow Escapists have done the same thing. In retrospect I feel that I should not have, and will not in the future, follow her wishes unless it be in her own house.

What would/will you guys do?

If she feels it is a sign of disrespect and/or hostility it is best you make her as comfortable as possible while she is in the vicinity.

Besides, do you REALLY need the hat indoors?

 

[Cliff_m85]

I'm a great believer in the principle of respecting one's elders. In a situation like that, I think the right thing to do would have been to comply with her wishes. You're probably right in your belief that she didn't really have the right to ask such a thing of you, but then again, she's many, many years your senior, and asking something relatively harmless of you. Why not?

That, and she's your girlfriend's grandmother. You don't want to make a bad impression with her family, do you?

Old =/= deserving of respect. Wisdom = deserving of respect.

 

[Greasemoicockneypalm]

Dude you haven't lived through a single war, you've got internet coming out of your ears, you never go hungry, you probably couldn't be healthier without stealing heart transplants for a living (and if you're unhealthy it's your own damn fault 99.999% of the time) and you're still riding the consumerist wave of seemingly infinite money that is Western Capitalism. Did you earn it? Of course you didn't, everything you've got has been handed to you without a fuss.

Old people could treat you like shit (like old people always have), but this generation lucked out, and what have we got now? A bunch of piss-a-bed self-righteous media addict dicks who won't even take their hats off indoors without having a cry.

On the flip side, how would you feel having lived a deadly tough life, being nice to your elders/polite to everyone out of fear of getting a hiding only to have some kid think he's got an equal say to you in your golden years? Being lectured by someone 1/5th your age is pretty demeaning, especially as they've got their whole lives ahead of them and you've only got 5, maybe 10 years left?

You weren't born for you.

 

[Space Spoons]

I'm a great believer in the principle of respecting one's elders. In a situation like that, I think the right thing to do would have been to comply with her wishes. You're probably right in your belief that she didn't really have the right to ask such a thing of you, but then again, she's many, many years your senior, and asking something relatively harmless of you. Why not?

That, and she's your girlfriend's grandmother. You don't want to make a bad impression with her family, do you?

Old =/= deserving of respect. Wisdom = deserving of respect.

Is it wrong to assume that living through 84 years on this planet doesn't make you wiser than someone who hasn't lived nearly as long?

 

[Greasemoicockneypalm]

Just respect your elders mate, they're better than me.

True enough, and fixed.

Being old just proves you haven't died yet.

Anyway, I'd have kept my hat on.
I like my hat.

Maybe old peple like their respect. Maybe it makes their last years on earth feel a little less wasted on scummy kids who don't even know where their money comes from any more

 

[Dromons]

Take off your hat, It is considered impolite to some people to wear your hat inside and when sitting down to eat (both indoor and outdoor).

 

[EnzoHonda]

Lotta young whipper-snappers don't know their place these days. We respect our elders because they've already made the mistakes that they don't want us to make and seen shit we wouldn't believe. You know why old uncle Joe (or whatever) keeps telling you to find a nice girl? Because he married a ***** and got stuck with her. You know why Grandpa tells you to go to school? Because he didn't and spend his life laying railway ties. You know why Grandma wants you to take off your hat? Because she's lived through WW2, the rise of the Soviet Union, seen man land on the moon, cried when JFK and RFK died, protested the Vietnam war, saw the fall of the Soviet Union and the collapse of the Berlin Wall (probably all before you were born) and she sure as shit won't put up someone being rude in front of her.

Yes, people, wearing a hat indoors is rude. Keep your elbows off the table, chew with your mouth closed, and take your hat off.