"RL girls are 3D pig disgusting"

[darklilac]

It's a pretty harmless ummm, lifestyle? I'm sure there are some who aren't sexist jerks and simply prefer 2D for other reasons. I've yet to see someone say 3D disgusting pig without also mentioning how they had an ex that broke their heart or they got friendzoned or that they want a little girl sex slave... so..... I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

I am like that, in my lifestyle, I don't bump into females that much so they don't affect me nor do I affect them. I just focus on 2D because it looks good to me and their personalities appeal to me. Though I do get mad at cosplaying anime characters as a whole. I mean, yeah it's fun for them and whatnot but they are trying to imitate 2D perfection which they can't well, you know, because they are 3D.

That's fine but uh, really? Getting MAD at cosplaying?
Get over it. People cosplay because it is fun. End of story. Plenty of people that cosplay aren't doing it to "imitate 2D perfection". That's your problem, not theirs.

People cosplay characters because they like the character/think they are cool/look up to them/like to roleplay/etc. Very rarely is it because they want to "be perfect". It is the CHARACTER they are being, not the fact that the character is 2D that matters.

 

[Grach]

Kevinkun, stop being so hostile. This can have a little civility you know?
Also stop trying to make yourself look like a victim, it's not working. You're just proving him right ("liquid spite running through their veins").

Just because something you like is getting questioned doesn't mean they're attacking you personally.

 

[KevinKun]

Kevinkun, stop being so hostile. This can have a little civility you know?
Also stop trying to make yourself look like a victim, it's not working. You're just proving him right ("liquid spite running through their veins").

Stop being hostile? So I should just sit here and let the circlejerk of "let's say nasty things about these people" go on without a word?

 

[Grach]

Yes, it's making you like a insecure drama queen and considering this is the internet, it would be better to just leave it alone. Believe me, I know from experience.

 

[Paradoxrifts]

Wow, that is pretty sad..

Thats like preferring a picture of a steak to eating a steak.

That's hardly fair.

Most of these guys wouldn't be able to afford a proper fillet of 'steak' in the first place. A much fairer analogy would be preferring a picture of a steak over eating a stale corned beef sandwich recovered from a dumpster.

Sounds like you're just projecting. A lot of these guys have the money to purchase many figs because of their love. Not to mention they keep even more money by not having to buy all sorts of frivolous crap to keep a woman happy. 2D is much better.

Or they could always just try keeping a woman happy by being pleasant and interesting human beings with a personality that isn't horrible to be around. 3d women like that, too. Though, that would necessitate setting some personal standards for themselves, and of course animu characters don't require any of that silly stuff and is the path of least resistance (self-reflection).

I think what he is trying to say is that the quality of person that such a person is likely to attract is probably equally poor.

Correct. To be perfectly fair, I don't think the stale corned beef sandwich is particularly thrilled about the situation either. But the idea that all women are in some way beautiful is as demonstrably false as the idea that all men are in some way handsome. Sometimes the only choices that are available have absolutely nothing going for them. They're just utterly repugnant from the physical exterior through to and including the mental interior.

As for the path of least resistance, I would say that in some cases the amount of effort required might not be worth the reward on offer. If you have to put in a truly herculean effort just to get an average score then that isn't much of an incentive to shape yourself up.

 

[Vault101]

That's hardly fair.

Most of these guys wouldn't be able to afford a proper fillet of 'steak' in the first place. A much fairer analogy would be preferring a picture of a steak over eating a stale corned beef sandwich recovered from a dumpster.

is this still a metaphor for women? if so comparing women who arent attractive (or god forbid a little plain) to stale corned beef recorvered from a dumpster...thats just rude

Sounds like you're just projecting. A lot of these guys have the money to purchase many figs because of their love. Not to mention they keep even more money by not having to buy all sorts of frivolous crap to keep a woman happy. 2D is much better.

yeah..I expect my man to buy me frivilous crap to keep me happy/sarcasm

aside from the initial "romantic courship" phase or whatever, if your girlfriend comes with a price tag you need to get a better girlfreind

 

[Paradoxrifts]

That's hardly fair.

Most of these guys wouldn't be able to afford a proper fillet of 'steak' in the first place. A much fairer analogy would be preferring a picture of a steak over eating a stale corned beef sandwich recovered from a dumpster.

is this still a metaphor for women? if so comparing women who arent attractive (or god forbid a little plain) to stale corned beef recorvered from a dumpster...thats just rude

I'm just hitting on everyone's insecurities in this thread, am I not?

Get over your goddess complex, Vault101. Physical attractiveness is no doubt important, and it can make up for a lot of deficiencies in a woman's character. Yet it is hardly the sole and only qualifier in terms of the overall attractiveness of a woman. But if my choice of partner was limited to women on the fast track to joining the guild of crazy old cat ladies, I'd seriously consider pursuing alternatives arrangements as well.

 

[PersonalRiot]

...You know I pop into this thread just for the humorous reads. While I understand that the basic opinion of people keep expressing, hasn't both sides of the point been more and less explored after 10 pages? There isn't much more to be said here by anyone. Those who enjoy 2D girls aren't going to change their beliefs no more than someone who enjoys a 3d companion.

Why not just let people enjoy whatever they want if it doesn't hurt anyone?

 

[Vault101]

I'm just hitting on everyone's insecurities in this thread, am I not?

playing the "insecurites" card if somone takes issue with what you say doesnt make you right

[quote/]Get over your goddess complex, Vault101.[/quote]
...........waaaaa? I don't even
[small/]if your implying I'm insecure about my apaearence then how would I have a "godess" complex? [/small]

[quote/]Physical attractiveness is no doubt important, and it can make up for a lot of deficiencies in a woman's character.Yet it is hardly the sole and only qualifier in terms of the overall attractiveness of a woman. But if my choice of partner was limited to women on the fast track to joining the guild of crazy old cat ladies, I'd seriously consider pursuing alternatives arrangements as well.[/quote]
so you admit that a womans apearance plays a big part in her worth as a person? if your willing to overlook "flaws in charachter" if she's hot, how extreme are thease "flaws of charachter" anyway? is this where the sterotype of bitchy dumb gold digging women comes from? because they can get away with it because they are hot?

yeah I get it, some women are hot, some are simply not...and some are ugly, and in a relationship you can't be expected to get with somone if the thourght of screwing them makes you physically I'll

but "stale corned beef recovered from a dumpster" I mean what the fuck is that? you could just say "plain" or even "unatractive" thats the truth, but that essentially says "you are a peice of shit" all round, as a person, doesnt reflect that well on your attitude towards women.To you it might be a causal remark but its the kind of casual sexism BS that is partly why everyone here takes issue with people's obsession with "perfect 2D women"

 

[idodo35]

well if there was a possibility to have real life people (not only girls mind you) not have to shit,pee and so on that wouldve been great but... yea that isnt possible... wait whats the point of this discussion?

 

[Gmans uncle]

I... whah... um...
Yeah I can't even wrap my mind around that...
I... guess I can see appeal of 2D women in a purely aesthetic sense, Hentai and all that, but... to actually, with no sense of irony or tongue-in-cheek satire, PREFER non-existent, two dimensional women over actual, physical women...


See I've always been rather ashamed of how women are portrayed in Games, anime, what have you. It creates this horrible, unreachable standard of beauty and it's just disgustingly objectifying.
But my defense of all that was that the people viewing this stuff were smart enough to know that real women do not look like this, human beings are not shaped like this, and I didn't think anybody would be naive enough to think otherwise.
So the fact that people DID think otherwise, and ARE being disappointed by the imperfections of reality as a result... Yeah that's kinda disturbing...

Says the probable grown adult that watches MLP.

Yeah I'm not even going to dignify how irrelevant that is with a response.

 

[Rainforce]

I'm just hitting on everyone's insecurities in this thread, am I not?

well, one could assume that everyone is extremely butthurt about the things you say simply based on the fact that they're in denial.
But as far as I know, the world isn't as harsh as you depict it to be, which just leaves you as the sole asshole in this thread who apparently thinks it's ok to treat people like shit the second you think some of their aspects/opinions are inferior to yours. I can assure you, we're all as dumb, desperate and afraid of everything as you are, that still doesn't give you the right to keep the conflict ball high. (which also leaves the question why you would want that in the first place)

On Topic:
it's somewhat sad, but I guess as long as they're happy it's alright. it casts a somewhat bleak picture about the future and reproduction of mankind, although it will sort itself out by natural selection. unless of course it all happened because we fucked up our society so bad that nobody ever wants to get anywhere in RL anymore, which is already partly the case, too.
So I guess it shows more about us than others, if we pressured quite some people into the corner with our (at times) absurd values.

EDIT: also half of the people on this thread. wtf guys.

 

[370999]

[quote/]Physical attractiveness is no doubt important, and it can make up for a lot of deficiencies in a woman's character.Yet it is hardly the sole and only qualifier in terms of the overall attractiveness of a woman. But if my choice of partner was limited to women on the fast track to joining the guild of crazy old cat ladies, I'd seriously consider pursuing alternatives arrangements as well.

so you admit that a womans apearance plays a big part in her worth as a person? if your willing to overlook "flaws in charachter" if she's hot, how extreme are thease "flaws of charachter" anyway? is this where the sterotype of bitchy dumb gold digging women comes from? because they can get away with it because they are hot?

yeah I get it, some women are hot, some are simply not...and some are ugly, and in a relationship you can't be expected to get with somone if the thourght of screwing them makes you physically I'll

but "stale corned beef recovered from a dumpster" I mean what the fuck is that? you could just say "plain" or even "unatractive" thats the truth, but that essentially says "you are a peice of shit" all round, as a person, doesnt reflect that well on your attitude towards women.To you it might be a causal remark but its the kind of casual sexism BS that is partly why everyone here takes issue with people's obsession with "perfect 2D women"[/quote]


I think that he is refering to a woman's worth in a relationship. In which case (for both sexes) someone's physical apperance is very important.

His metaphor could have used slightly more tact.

On Topic:
it's somewhat sad, but I guess as long as they're happy it's alright. it casts a somewhat bleak picture about the future and reproduction of mankind, although it will sort itself out by natural selection. unless of course it all happened because we fucked up our society so bad that nobody ever wants to get anywhere in RL anymore, which is already partly the case, too.
So I guess it shows more about us than others, if we pressured quite some people into the corner with our (at times) absurd values.

We are dealing with an minute minority of people here. It's like the demographic of people who are attracted to buildings, inconsequential in the gand scheme of things.

 

[Tohru Adachi]

Though it would be appropriate to my username if I were to simply dismiss real women as bitches and/or whores, it's an opportunity I'll just have to miss.

I find it disagreeable that the idea is being expressed that people who prefer 2D over 3D must only do so because they have had bad or none-existent experiences with real women or are otherwise incapable of establishing a relationship with a physical one or are sexually confused.

Physical attraction is susceptible to much variation, it is perfectly plausible that one could just innately be more attracted to 2D rather than 3D without first having to have become embittered towards the latter or have some other external experience. Given that, what is the logic behind the idea that favouring 2D is inherently inferior to favouring 3D, as is being expressed?
I have seen allusions to it being because it is counteractive towards Natural Selection. Does any form of attraction, physical or otherwise, that does not comply with 'passing' Natural Selection have an inherent inferiority to those that do?

Regardless, people shouldn't be so narrow-mindedly dismissive of a favour of 2D girls as 'creepy' and attempting to combat the concept by portraying it's practioners as 'greasy, basement dwellers'. It's possible that anyone, regardless of physical attractiveness, experiences with women or magnitude of social interaction, might just prefer 2D over 3D and don't simply need to 'get out more' or something to that effect.

Also, a love for 2D girls doesn't need to be sexual in any way, believe it or not. People can have a genuine love for their 2D fictional character without needing to... I believe 'fap' is the colloquial term... over said fictional character in some sort of pathetic compensation for their lack of interaction with real people, to the contrary of what many of you seem to be insinuating.


Stop being so close-minded. People have a right to like whatever they want without being dismissed as creepy weirdos.
*sigh* You're probably imagining me as being an overweight neck-beard right now, aren't you...

 

[Vault101]

I think that he is refering to a woman's worth in a relationship. In which case (for both sexes) someone's physical apperance is very important.

His metaphor could have used slightly more tact.

"used corn beef sandwhich from dumpster" is offensive whatever the context...but I get your point

 

[Paradoxrifts]

{Snip}

It doesn't make me wrong either. But please do that again that was hilarious.

The part where you completely ignore that I compared men to dirty, unkempt and quite possibly homeless dumpster divers, and then concentrated solely on how I compared women to the types of food these poor guys are likely to eat.

And then you go on to call me sexist afterwards.

Pro Tip: You would come across as less of a hypocrite if you simply declared that I'm a piece of shit because I'm a terrible, nasty and mean piece of work that enjoys stripping away people's romantic notions and rubbing their faces into the underlying reality of their problems. But we both know that even if you don't like me, the only reason why you posted was that you think that I'm a terrible, nasty and mean piece of work who doesn't exempt women from what I do.

I didn't obsessively focus on the use of a metaphor that dared to disrespect women, which was used within the context of an analogy that was also disrespectful to men.

As that would be sexist.

 

[Eddie the head]

{Snip}

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Speaking as a guy, I could see that as extremely offensive. If you are saying that the guy is the dumpster diving hobo. Well I don't think anyone should have to eat out of dumpster. So given my social context you are saying no guy should have to deal with an ugly woman. It might not have been what you meant, but it's what was conveyed. Witch is almost as important.

 

[Vault101]

It doesn't make me wrong either. But please do that again that was hilarious.

ok..."its not an argument"

better?

[quote/]The part where you completely ignore that I compared men to dirty, unkempt and quite possibly homeless dumpster divers, and then concentrated solely on how I compared women to the types of food these poor guys are likely to eat.[/quote]
that may be your "intended meaning" but it sure as hell doesnt sound any better upon second examination,....its kind of like me saying "girls are always going out with sexist, mysoginist assholes and getting hurt" <-but oh wait, that wasn't a slur against men I implied the women were stupid as well...its really obvious


[quote/]And then you go on to call me sexist afterwards.[/quote]
rather than pointing out it was aparently an "equal opertunity slur" you went and told me to get over my aparent godess complex (whatever the hell that is) so I may have reacted a bit defensively, I wasn't outright calling you sexist, I was just taking issue with your use of words, which may not seem like a big deal but when people throw around stuff like that it does make me wonder


[quote/]Pro Tip: You would come across as less of a hypocrite if you simply declared that I'm a piece of shit because I'm a terrible, nasty and mean piece of work that enjoys stripping away people's romantic notions and rubbing their faces into the underlying reality of their problems. But we both know that even if you don't like me, the only reason why you posted was that you think that I'm a terrible, nasty and mean piece of work who doesn't exempt women from what I do.[/quote]
now where did you get that Idea?

I have argued with "peices of shit" before and your not one of them,if I did think that I would have used harsher words than "thats kind of rude"

[quote/]I didn't obsessively focus on the use of a metaphor that dared to disrespect women, which was used within the context of an analogy that was also disrespectful to men.

As that would be sexist.[/quote]
I sure as hell didn't jump out of the bushes screaming MYSOGANIST first time around,