"RL girls are 3D pig disgusting"

[hazabaza1]

Ok, I'll admit there's a certain appeal to 2D girls, at least for oggling anyway and maybe doing other things... but to prefer them over the real thing??? What? That's just crazy.

Also:

This seems to apply.

I know you may have already had this explained to you, but liking either of those will not help as they are both effectively fictional and you have an equal chance of forming a relationship with them.

What?
No, that's wrong. The one on the left is a picture of a real woman. In cosplay, yes, but she still exists. She can still have sex or enter relationships just as much as anyone else.
It may not be likely that anyone here would but does that doesn't make her fictional.
Angelina Jolie isn't fictional, despite nobody here ever getting to bone her.

This seems fairly simple logic to me. You might have to explain your reasoning just a little bit here, mate.

Angelina Jolie is not actually Lara Croft. She is not actually any character she has played. This woman is not Yoko. It is fictional, a lie, a poor reflection in a mirror. False as false can be, no different from the other image. Women do not actually have massive orgies with delivery men to avoid paying bills. Delivery men are not all actually ridiculously well endowed. Showing a woman your large penis will likely not cause her to enter a state of shock and awe.
I do not equate the two because I cannot seperate fantasy from reality. Quite the opposite in fact, I completely seperate all of such fantasies from reality. I treat them all just as what they are, preposterous sexual fantasies with little to no bearing upon reality.

Alright, and nobody is saying that she's Yoko. She's a woman dressed up as Yoko, but same as anyone else, remove the clothes and I'll fuck their brains out she's just a regular person. A real person. Dressing up doesn't stop someone being 'real', it just means that they've dressed up.

And it is extremely unlikely that the scenarios going through anyone's head when they imagine such a thing are within the bounds of reality.

Your point?
So what, is someone who watches porn of an actual three dicked midget with an eyepatch on exactly the same as someone who watches porn with some famous porn star in it, just because the chances of them fucking them are equally low?

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Ok, I'll admit there's a certain appeal to 2D girls, at least for oggling anyway and maybe doing other things... but to prefer them over the real thing??? What? That's just crazy.

Also:

This seems to apply.

I know you may have already had this explained to you, but liking either of those will not help as they are both effectively fictional and you have an equal chance of forming a relationship with them.

Wait... what? What the hell are you talking about. One is a fictional character, the other is a real girl cosplaying as a fictional character. Obviously the later is better because she's real. Man I didn't think it was really that complex a concept. This is not astral physics or string theory.

Note the effectively. She is acting. She is dressed up. I can love her in the same sense I can love Yoko, which is to say not at all. Now her as an actual person, sure, but that is not what anyone is attracted to when they see that. Porn is acting. It is almost never real. And taking pleasure in it does not in any way make you better than the person who prefers the 2D Yoko. They are both "fake." Both are inhuman in my eyes. If I were to meet the actual person, that would certainly change things. Then I could apreciate them for who they are. I cannot do that through your picture.

You're problem is, as was the last person I had to explain this to, is the fact that you're focusing on the fact that it's a picture and instead of the the fact the it's a real person vs a not real person. You're focusing on the wrong aspects of the picture and are thus missing the point completely.

No, I'm focusing on the fact that either way it is just a sexual fantasy with next to no bearing upon reality.

No it isn't. You could get to know the person behind the costume if you put the effort in. No amount of effort is going to get you anywhere with the actual Yoko (or any other fictional character).

And if you did get to know them it would not be equal, but that possibility does not elevate the pre-existing and ultimately preposterous fantasies above the other preposterous fantasies.

Sure it does. You sure as hell have a much better chance with the girl cosplaying as Yoko than you do with Yoko. Your chances with the girl cosplaying maybe like 1%, but your chances with Yoko are 0%.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Ok, I'll admit there's a certain appeal to 2D girls, at least for oggling anyway and maybe doing other things... but to prefer them over the real thing??? What? That's just crazy.

Also:

This seems to apply.

I know you may have already had this explained to you, but liking either of those will not help as they are both effectively fictional and you have an equal chance of forming a relationship with them.

What?
No, that's wrong. The one on the left is a picture of a real woman. In cosplay, yes, but she still exists. She can still have sex or enter relationships just as much as anyone else.
It may not be likely that anyone here would but does that doesn't make her fictional.
Angelina Jolie isn't fictional, despite nobody here ever getting to bone her.

This seems fairly simple logic to me. You might have to explain your reasoning just a little bit here, mate.

Angelina Jolie is not actually Lara Croft. She is not actually any character she has played. This woman is not Yoko. It is fictional, a lie, a poor reflection in a mirror. False as false can be, no different from the other image. Women do not actually have massive orgies with delivery men to avoid paying bills. Delivery men are not all actually ridiculously well endowed. Showing a woman your large penis will likely not cause her to enter a state of shock and awe.
I do not equate the two because I cannot seperate fantasy from reality. Quite the opposite in fact, I completely seperate all of such fantasies from reality. I treat them all just as what they are, preposterous sexual fantasies with little to no bearing upon reality.

Alright, and nobody is saying that she's Yoko. She's a woman dressed up as Yoko, but same as anyone else, remove the clothes and I'll fuck their brains out she's just a regular person. A real person. Dressing up doesn't stop someone being 'real', it just means that they've dressed up.

And it is extremely unlikely that the scenarios going through anyone's head when they imagine such a thing are within the bounds of reality.

Your point?
So what, is someone who watches porn of an actual three dicked midget with an eyepatch on exactly the same as someone who watches porn with some famous porn star in it, just because the chances of them fucking them are equally low?

No, but because both are fantasies. Both are unrealistic. Both exist solely in the real of fiction. And it is equally insulting that you would say that the guy with a thing for Yoko is suddenly ten times worse then the guy who gets off to a woman with ridiculous proportions giving a plumber a hand job with inhuman degrees of ecstasy while slathered with vegetable oil.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Ok, I'll admit there's a certain appeal to 2D girls, at least for oggling anyway and maybe doing other things... but to prefer them over the real thing??? What? That's just crazy.

Also:

This seems to apply.

I know you may have already had this explained to you, but liking either of those will not help as they are both effectively fictional and you have an equal chance of forming a relationship with them.

Wait... what? What the hell are you talking about. One is a fictional character, the other is a real girl cosplaying as a fictional character. Obviously the later is better because she's real. Man I didn't think it was really that complex a concept. This is not astral physics or string theory.

Note the effectively. She is acting. She is dressed up. I can love her in the same sense I can love Yoko, which is to say not at all. Now her as an actual person, sure, but that is not what anyone is attracted to when they see that. Porn is acting. It is almost never real. And taking pleasure in it does not in any way make you better than the person who prefers the 2D Yoko. They are both "fake." Both are inhuman in my eyes. If I were to meet the actual person, that would certainly change things. Then I could apreciate them for who they are. I cannot do that through your picture.

You're problem is, as was the last person I had to explain this to, is the fact that you're focusing on the fact that it's a picture and instead of the the fact the it's a real person vs a not real person. You're focusing on the wrong aspects of the picture and are thus missing the point completely.

No, I'm focusing on the fact that either way it is just a sexual fantasy with next to no bearing upon reality.

No it isn't. You could get to know the person behind the costume if you put the effort in. No amount of effort is going to get you anywhere with the actual Yoko (or any other fictional character).

And if you did get to know them it would not be equal, but that possibility does not elevate the pre-existing and ultimately preposterous fantasies above the other preposterous fantasies.

Sure it does. You sure as hell have a much better chance with the girl cosplaying as Yoko than you do with Yoko. Your chances with the girl cosplaying maybe like 1%, but your chances with Yoko are 0%.

But what's running through my head does not in any way reflect the personality of that girl. It is almost certainly not reflective of an actual relationship with her. It is a fantasy with no real bearing in reality.

 

[hazabaza1]

Ok, I'll admit there's a certain appeal to 2D girls, at least for oggling anyway and maybe doing other things... but to prefer them over the real thing??? What? That's just crazy.

Also:

This seems to apply.

I know you may have already had this explained to you, but liking either of those will not help as they are both effectively fictional and you have an equal chance of forming a relationship with them.

What?
No, that's wrong. The one on the left is a picture of a real woman. In cosplay, yes, but she still exists. She can still have sex or enter relationships just as much as anyone else.
It may not be likely that anyone here would but does that doesn't make her fictional.
Angelina Jolie isn't fictional, despite nobody here ever getting to bone her.

This seems fairly simple logic to me. You might have to explain your reasoning just a little bit here, mate.

Angelina Jolie is not actually Lara Croft. She is not actually any character she has played. This woman is not Yoko. It is fictional, a lie, a poor reflection in a mirror. False as false can be, no different from the other image. Women do not actually have massive orgies with delivery men to avoid paying bills. Delivery men are not all actually ridiculously well endowed. Showing a woman your large penis will likely not cause her to enter a state of shock and awe.
I do not equate the two because I cannot seperate fantasy from reality. Quite the opposite in fact, I completely seperate all of such fantasies from reality. I treat them all just as what they are, preposterous sexual fantasies with little to no bearing upon reality.

Alright, and nobody is saying that she's Yoko. She's a woman dressed up as Yoko, but same as anyone else, remove the clothes and I'll fuck their brains out she's just a regular person. A real person. Dressing up doesn't stop someone being 'real', it just means that they've dressed up.

And it is extremely unlikely that the scenarios going through anyone's head when they imagine such a thing are within the bounds of reality.

Your point?
So what, is someone who watches porn of an actual three dicked midget with an eyepatch on exactly the same as someone who watches porn with some famous porn star in it, just because the chances of them fucking them are equally low?

No, but because both are fantasies. Both are unrealistic. Both exist solely in the real of fiction. And it is equally insulting that you would say that the guy with a thing for Yoko is suddenly ten times worse then the guy who gets off to a woman with ridiculous proportions giving a plumber a hand job with inhuman degrees of ecstasy while slathered with vegetable oil.

First of all, I never said that.
Second, while they're both unlikely, it's clear that they're different. This discussion was never about the likeliness of the situation, just the fact that some people find animated or drawn women more attractive than real women.
I can see what you're getting at and where you're coming from but while it's similar to the original discussion, the nitty gritty is wildly off topic for this thread.

Either way, I can see we're on different wavelengths and won't reach an agreement. What say we call this off and you can deal with one less person giving you shit?

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Ok, I'll admit there's a certain appeal to 2D girls, at least for oggling anyway and maybe doing other things... but to prefer them over the real thing??? What? That's just crazy.

Also:

This seems to apply.

I know you may have already had this explained to you, but liking either of those will not help as they are both effectively fictional and you have an equal chance of forming a relationship with them.

Wait... what? What the hell are you talking about. One is a fictional character, the other is a real girl cosplaying as a fictional character. Obviously the later is better because she's real. Man I didn't think it was really that complex a concept. This is not astral physics or string theory.

Note the effectively. She is acting. She is dressed up. I can love her in the same sense I can love Yoko, which is to say not at all. Now her as an actual person, sure, but that is not what anyone is attracted to when they see that. Porn is acting. It is almost never real. And taking pleasure in it does not in any way make you better than the person who prefers the 2D Yoko. They are both "fake." Both are inhuman in my eyes. If I were to meet the actual person, that would certainly change things. Then I could apreciate them for who they are. I cannot do that through your picture.

You're problem is, as was the last person I had to explain this to, is the fact that you're focusing on the fact that it's a picture and instead of the the fact the it's a real person vs a not real person. You're focusing on the wrong aspects of the picture and are thus missing the point completely.

No, I'm focusing on the fact that either way it is just a sexual fantasy with next to no bearing upon reality.

No it isn't. You could get to know the person behind the costume if you put the effort in. No amount of effort is going to get you anywhere with the actual Yoko (or any other fictional character).

And if you did get to know them it would not be equal, but that possibility does not elevate the pre-existing and ultimately preposterous fantasies above the other preposterous fantasies.

Sure it does. You sure as hell have a much better chance with the girl cosplaying as Yoko than you do with Yoko. Your chances with the girl cosplaying maybe like 1%, but your chances with Yoko are 0%.

But what's running through my head does not in any way reflect the personality of that girl. It is almost certainly not reflective of an actual relationship with her. It is a fantasy with no real bearing in reality.

Maybe but you have a much better chance of living out that fantasy with the girl on the left than the one on the right. How you perceive the relationship is not the issue at hand.
Besides, when I look at that picture I don't see a girl cosplaying vs a not real girl, I see a real girl vs. a not real girl. And if you choose the not real girl over the real girl you fail at natural selection PERIOD! End of story.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Ok, I'll admit there's a certain appeal to 2D girls, at least for oggling anyway and maybe doing other things... but to prefer them over the real thing??? What? That's just crazy.

Also:

This seems to apply.

I know you may have already had this explained to you, but liking either of those will not help as they are both effectively fictional and you have an equal chance of forming a relationship with them.

Wait... what? What the hell are you talking about. One is a fictional character, the other is a real girl cosplaying as a fictional character. Obviously the later is better because she's real. Man I didn't think it was really that complex a concept. This is not astral physics or string theory.

Note the effectively. She is acting. She is dressed up. I can love her in the same sense I can love Yoko, which is to say not at all. Now her as an actual person, sure, but that is not what anyone is attracted to when they see that. Porn is acting. It is almost never real. And taking pleasure in it does not in any way make you better than the person who prefers the 2D Yoko. They are both "fake." Both are inhuman in my eyes. If I were to meet the actual person, that would certainly change things. Then I could apreciate them for who they are. I cannot do that through your picture.

You're problem is, as was the last person I had to explain this to, is the fact that you're focusing on the fact that it's a picture and instead of the the fact the it's a real person vs a not real person. You're focusing on the wrong aspects of the picture and are thus missing the point completely.

No, I'm focusing on the fact that either way it is just a sexual fantasy with next to no bearing upon reality.

No it isn't. You could get to know the person behind the costume if you put the effort in. No amount of effort is going to get you anywhere with the actual Yoko (or any other fictional character).

And if you did get to know them it would not be equal, but that possibility does not elevate the pre-existing and ultimately preposterous fantasies above the other preposterous fantasies.

Sure it does. You sure as hell have a much better chance with the girl cosplaying as Yoko than you do with Yoko. Your chances with the girl cosplaying maybe like 1%, but your chances with Yoko are 0%.

But what's running through my head does not in any way reflect the personality of that girl. It is almost certainly not reflective of an actual relationship with her. It is a fantasy with no real bearing in reality.

Maybe but you have a much better chance of living out that fantasy with the girl on the left than the one on the right. How you perceive the relationship is not the issue at hand.
Besides, when I look at that picture I don't see a girl cosplaying vs a not real girl, I see a real girl vs. a not real girl. And if you choose the not real girl over the real girl you fail at natural selection PERIOD! End of story.

The fact that it is a fantasy either way is and has been my point the whole time. You are the only one talking about likelihood, and ultimately that's irrelevant as I have made it clear that once you are in a relationship that is better. And thanks for telling me I'm terrible at natural selection because I find that woman less attractive than the fictional character she is trying to portray, despite the fact that if she looked different I may like her more. This one aesthetic preference rules me out of the gene pool. And both still aren't "real" anyway so why should I care.

I tire of this. I'm gonna go back to not caring too much either way. You can go back to ruling people with different fetishes as inferior. Whatever. I have no clue why I even commented in this mess of a thread.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Ok, I'll admit there's a certain appeal to 2D girls, at least for oggling anyway and maybe doing other things... but to prefer them over the real thing??? What? That's just crazy.

Also:

This seems to apply.

I know you may have already had this explained to you, but liking either of those will not help as they are both effectively fictional and you have an equal chance of forming a relationship with them.

What?
No, that's wrong. The one on the left is a picture of a real woman. In cosplay, yes, but she still exists. She can still have sex or enter relationships just as much as anyone else.
It may not be likely that anyone here would but does that doesn't make her fictional.
Angelina Jolie isn't fictional, despite nobody here ever getting to bone her.

This seems fairly simple logic to me. You might have to explain your reasoning just a little bit here, mate.

Angelina Jolie is not actually Lara Croft. She is not actually any character she has played. This woman is not Yoko. It is fictional, a lie, a poor reflection in a mirror. False as false can be, no different from the other image. Women do not actually have massive orgies with delivery men to avoid paying bills. Delivery men are not all actually ridiculously well endowed. Showing a woman your large penis will likely not cause her to enter a state of shock and awe.
I do not equate the two because I cannot seperate fantasy from reality. Quite the opposite in fact, I completely seperate all of such fantasies from reality. I treat them all just as what they are, preposterous sexual fantasies with little to no bearing upon reality.

Alright, and nobody is saying that she's Yoko. She's a woman dressed up as Yoko, but same as anyone else, remove the clothes and I'll fuck their brains out she's just a regular person. A real person. Dressing up doesn't stop someone being 'real', it just means that they've dressed up.

And it is extremely unlikely that the scenarios going through anyone's head when they imagine such a thing are within the bounds of reality.

Your point?
So what, is someone who watches porn of an actual three dicked midget with an eyepatch on exactly the same as someone who watches porn with some famous porn star in it, just because the chances of them fucking them are equally low?

No, but because both are fantasies. Both are unrealistic. Both exist solely in the real of fiction. And it is equally insulting that you would say that the guy with a thing for Yoko is suddenly ten times worse then the guy who gets off to a woman with ridiculous proportions giving a plumber a hand job with inhuman degrees of ecstasy while slathered with vegetable oil.

First of all, I never said that.
Second, while they're both unlikely, it's clear that they're different. This discussion was never about the likeliness of the situation, just the fact that some people find animated or drawn women more attractive than real women.
I can see what you're getting at and where you're coming from but while it's similar to the original discussion, the nitty gritty is wildly off topic for this thread.

Either way, I can see we're on different wavelengths and won't reach an agreement. What say we call this off and you can deal with one less person giving you shit?

I guess I'm done here then. We've reached a state of perpetual disagreement I fear, but at least I don't think you're actually looking down on anybody. And to be fair, your shit was far more easy to deal with.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Ok, I'll admit there's a certain appeal to 2D girls, at least for oggling anyway and maybe doing other things... but to prefer them over the real thing??? What? That's just crazy.

Also:

This seems to apply.

I know you may have already had this explained to you, but liking either of those will not help as they are both effectively fictional and you have an equal chance of forming a relationship with them.

Wait... what? What the hell are you talking about. One is a fictional character, the other is a real girl cosplaying as a fictional character. Obviously the later is better because she's real. Man I didn't think it was really that complex a concept. This is not astral physics or string theory.

Note the effectively. She is acting. She is dressed up. I can love her in the same sense I can love Yoko, which is to say not at all. Now her as an actual person, sure, but that is not what anyone is attracted to when they see that. Porn is acting. It is almost never real. And taking pleasure in it does not in any way make you better than the person who prefers the 2D Yoko. They are both "fake." Both are inhuman in my eyes. If I were to meet the actual person, that would certainly change things. Then I could apreciate them for who they are. I cannot do that through your picture.

You're problem is, as was the last person I had to explain this to, is the fact that you're focusing on the fact that it's a picture and instead of the the fact the it's a real person vs a not real person. You're focusing on the wrong aspects of the picture and are thus missing the point completely.

No, I'm focusing on the fact that either way it is just a sexual fantasy with next to no bearing upon reality.

No it isn't. You could get to know the person behind the costume if you put the effort in. No amount of effort is going to get you anywhere with the actual Yoko (or any other fictional character).

And if you did get to know them it would not be equal, but that possibility does not elevate the pre-existing and ultimately preposterous fantasies above the other preposterous fantasies.

Sure it does. You sure as hell have a much better chance with the girl cosplaying as Yoko than you do with Yoko. Your chances with the girl cosplaying maybe like 1%, but your chances with Yoko are 0%.

But what's running through my head does not in any way reflect the personality of that girl. It is almost certainly not reflective of an actual relationship with her. It is a fantasy with no real bearing in reality.

Maybe but you have a much better chance of living out that fantasy with the girl on the left than the one on the right. How you perceive the relationship is not the issue at hand.
Besides, when I look at that picture I don't see a girl cosplaying vs a not real girl, I see a real girl vs. a not real girl. And if you choose the not real girl over the real girl you fail at natural selection PERIOD! End of story.

The fact that it is a fantasy either way is and has been my point the whole time. You are the only one talking about likelihood, and ultimately that's irrelevant as I have made it clear that once you are in a relationship that is better. And thanks for telling me I'm terrible at natural selection because I find that woman less attractive than the fictional character she is trying to portray, despite the fact that if she looked different I may like her more. This one aesthetic preference rules me out of the gene pool. And both still aren't "real" anyway so why should I care.

I tire of this. I'm gonna go back to not caring too much either way. You can go back to ruling people with different fetishes as inferior. Whatever. I have no clue why I even commented in this mess of a thread.

*sigh* I didn't mean "you" personally, I meant "you" generically. Sorry I should have specified that.
Anyway, it's not about fantasies, you can fantasize about whatever you want, it's about choosing something that's not real over something that's real. Presumably anyone who'd choose the image on the right are the kind of people who'd rather f*ck a Japanese love pillow instead of a real live flesh and blood woman. In which case they aren't going to be adding to the gene pool regardless and thus they fail at natural selection which I believe was the point the whole demotivator was trying to make. IDK, I didn't make the bloody thing, I just agreed with what I thought it was trying to say.

 

[longboardfan]

Something which has been amusing me lately. Guys saying that they prefer 2D girls to their 3D counterparts. Now I'm not having a go, I don't mind that you feel that way, I just want to know why some people consider real life girls pig disgusting. Of course you have to deal with all the smells and fluids of a real girl no matter how much perfume they use, whereas it's completely optional with 2D girls whether or not you want to imagine they have any body fluids or unpleasant smells.

Maybe part of the problem is holding the ideal girl on a pedestal as a completely sanitary, angelic creature who does not poop, does not breathe, does not have any of the human bodily functions that a male has. Are there any more reasons?

OP is quite possibly ignorant and/or foolish. Problem stems from a complete lack of understanding of the large segment of males wherein they are ignored until later in life by women until they have something to steal...I mean succeed in life. Usually said women have one or more children by men they considered to be genetically superior (sexy and better men) but poor fathers, and then re-marry later these previously ignored men, because they actually have jobs. IE: The "where have all the good men gone?" women. When faced with this reality, I suspect many of these men would prefer your "2D" women over the 'real' ones. Has nothing to do with bodily functions.

 

[Tohru Adachi]

Why are the primary arguments going on here 'real is better than fictitious because you can have sex with them' and 'liking fictitious over real means you fail at natural selection'?

Why does heterosexual copulation, which I infer because of a heavy emphasis on the importance of human reproduction through natural selection being pertinent here in this discussion, hold such a seemingly inherent value for you?

I don't view the love a person might have for there fictitious character as being any more or less valid than one somebody might have for another human. But then I don't think natural selection's value is diminished to the point of insignificance in this day and age, it doesn't apply to humans any more, humanity can artificially preserve or destroy the genetically weak or strong whenever it likes. It's all meaningless in the end.

There's something very crude and primitive about viewing love only as something that is physical, it demeans you.

 

[General Twinkletoes]

Why are the primary arguments going on here 'real is better than fictitious because you can have sex with them' and 'liking fictitious over real means you fail at natural selection'?

Why does heterosexual copulation, which I infer because of a heavy emphasis on the importance of human reproduction through natural selection being pertinent here in this discussion, hold such a seemingly inherent value for you?

I don't view the love a person might have for there fictitious character as being any more or less valid than one somebody might have for another human. But then I don't think natural selection's value is diminished to the point of insignificance in this day and age, it doesn't apply to humans any more, humanity can artificially preserve or destroy the genetically weak or strong whenever it likes. It's all meaningless in the end.

There's something very crude and primitive about viewing love only as something that is physical, it demeans you.

That's not really the argument. It's not only about physical stuff, it's about the fact that anime characters are not real people. They don't think, they don't feel, they don't have personalities and they will never have emotions. The biggest part of a relationship is the interaction with two people, which is impossible if that person isn't real.

[sub][sub][sub]oh god why am I posting in this thread again[/sub][/sub][/sub]

 

[Tohru Adachi]

Why are the primary arguments going on here 'real is better than fictitious because you can have sex with them' and 'liking fictitious over real means you fail at natural selection'?

Why does heterosexual copulation, which I infer because of a heavy emphasis on the importance of human reproduction through natural selection being pertinent here in this discussion, hold such a seemingly inherent value for you?

I don't view the love a person might have for there fictitious character as being any more or less valid than one somebody might have for another human. But then I don't think natural selection's value is diminished to the point of insignificance in this day and age, it doesn't apply to humans any more, humanity can artificially preserve or destroy the genetically weak or strong whenever it likes. It's all meaningless in the end.

There's something very crude and primitive about viewing love only as something that is physical, it demeans you.

That's not really the argument. It's not only about physical stuff, it's about the fact that anime characters are not real people. They don't think, they don't feel, they don't have personalities and they will never have emotions. The biggest part of a relationship is the interaction with two people, which is impossible if that person isn't real.

[sub][sub][sub]oh god why am I posting in this thread again[/sub][/sub][/sub]

Hmmm. I didn't consider that...
You may be right.

That doesn't detract from the fact that many people do feel a genuine kinship with these characters and an understanding for them, despite the lacking mutuality of that sentiment.

Is it a 'truly' a 'relationship'? I suppose not. Is it 'truly' love? Maybe, albeit one-sided.

 

[Vault101]

You're taking this argument way too seriously. There's obviously nothing you can do to change this person's mind, and he has obviously no interest in making any point at all here or being not just plain against everything you say.
(while also throwing some insults back)
or: Stop letting yourself get trolled, intentionally or unintenionally.

I'm not..I'm merely counter arguing thats what I do when people say stuff I disagree with...I'm not even raging

 

[pandorum]

If you are a male in the United States and choose a 3D partner over a 2D partner, you are a fool.
And I am far from a neckbeard virgin. The reason I feel how I do is from experience. "Real" women will ruin your life. They will lie and cheat and steal like there is no tomorrow, because they do not care about you as a person, they only care about your perceived status.
I was with a 3D woman for about 2 years (my most recent relationship), during which she cheated on me with a mechanic, got pregnant by his seed, and then attempted to make me raise the child (through child support, she actually had full custody if everything went her way, and it would have since the courts are extremely biased in favor of women).
Of course, this is completely anecdotal evidence. But it's a story I have heard from dozens of other men. And 50%+ divorce rates don't lie either.
Sure. We can't marry 2D women, dolls, or robots yet. But given the climate in the Western world of men being treated like garbage while women have what they want handed to them on a silver platter, I foresee such marriages being legalized in the not-so-distant future, and I will be at the front of such a movement. Gay marriage has already paved the way for this in the best possible way.
So a message to all you 3D women out there: If you want to keep your iron grip on the collective throats of American men, you had better huddle up and formulate a new plan. Men will rise once again.

You have completely lost touch of reality referring to real women as 3D and cartoon women as 2D yes they are 2D but they do not exist, have you given the thought that it might be just your taste in women that you believe they have this over baring grip on men? And believe they are all evil maybe you have a fetish for women to treat you that way.

 

[Korenith]

Because sometimes when people can't get something, they seek to make themselves feel better about it by telling themselves (and anyone else who will listen) that they didn't want it in the first place.

How is this conversation still going when this clearly answers all questions? (aware of the irony that I am continuing conversation myself) People can't get a real girl and so convince themselves they're better off. It's less to do with bodily functions and more to do with the fear of rejection/failure. Can't be bad at an imaginary relationship after all (I hope, else that's plumbing new depths of depressing)

 

[Rainforce]

Yes. Although, considering what people posted here, it's a bigger minority than the ones you compared it to.
It also still makes me think how it can happen in the first place, considering how the variety of human personalities isn't THAT big.

I doubt there are many numbers on "contructionphiles"
Honestly I have a fetish for something that didn't even exist when I was born or in my early years, so beats me how some fetishes come to be.

that was kinda my point, I meant "bigger minority" as in "more people are a part of it"

 

[Galletea]

I don't get it. Are you saying that guys find made up women more attractive than the real thing?
Because that's like saying the sky is blue.
People have been creating flattering portraits and sculpting perfect women into marble long before they started doing these things digitally.

There was even a greek myth about it, though I forget the names of all involved, sculptor created his perfect woman and fell in love with it and the gods made her live, but she was incapable of love? I think that's how it went.

I know it's counter-productive to wade into the mire at this late stage, but I can't think that the issue has anything to do with bodily fluids. At all.

 

[EdwardC]

Because sometimes when people can't get something, they seek to make themselves feel better about it by telling themselves (and anyone else who will listen) that they didn't want it in the first place.

How is this conversation still going when this clearly answers all questions? (aware of the irony that I am continuing conversation myself) People can't get a real girl and so convince themselves they're better off. It's less to do with bodily functions and more to do with the fear of rejection/failure. Can't be bad at an imaginary relationship after all (I hope, else that's plumbing new depths of depressing)

you should probably abstain from googling netorare then