Rush Limbaugh Defends Video Game Free Speech
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He's right, you know.
This is a man that always manages to conflict me. I agree with about 50% of what he says, and disagree with the other 50%.
This is a man that always manages to conflict me. I agree with about 50% of what he says, and disagree with the other 50%.
Never said that. Never said I agreed with their methods eitherlacktheknack said:
I was just saying that none of the shit the YouTube liberals pull comes close to Sean Hannity and team.
Moar antagonism, pls!Dom Kebbell said:
I find it difficult to call Schwarzenegger a "republican" with a straight face.
I'm going to have to strongly dissagree with that. I have seen stuff there that puts Hannity to shame in the realm of mud-slinging.JourneyThroughHell said:
It shouldn't surprise you, consider that this is a guy who has been fighting against censorship from the left wing for decades now.The Great JT said:
See, one of the things you have to understand is that this is not a "one party" issue but as far as it goes it's far more of a left wing issue than a right wing one, especially on the level that it's going to. Democrats are pretty much on the "we believe in free speech" bandwagon as long as it's free speech that they happen to agree with. It's the left wing that winds up leading most of the serious censorship crusades despite the free speech talk, typically oriented against what they call "hate speech", which is as often or not politically oriented.
Now this isn't to say that Republicans don't do th same thing at times, however most (but not all) of those cases wind up starting with local issues and then snowballing. Republicans are more likely in general to argue that the people of a town should have the right to do something like ban Rap Music in the public park or whatever, than to say that nobody in the entire country should be able to say they don't like a group of people.
In many cases you have Republicans actually fighting for free speech, albiet in a way that few left wingers like to agree with, and that's the freedom of religious expression and things like that. Republicans having in the past come to the defense of people who wanted to say wear a cross necklace or earrings visibly in school or whatever and then coming under fire because it was seen as being antagonistic by it's very nature.
I'm not saying I agree with the Republican point of view entirely, I'm just saying that it's really not all that shocking, though I suppose a lot of people from generally left wing communities like this one aren't used to really thinking about the other side in quite that way.
Both parties are divided on this issue and have supporters and detractors, what's fueling this though is that the left wing has become unified due to party policies quashing dissent. While some people are breaking ranks the whole "Rally behind Obama and Clinton so we can be strong enough to take on the Republicans in a deadlocked nation, and thus have power" has created a scenario where the most reliable groups fighting are the Republicans who are against censorship, and of course businessmen with a stake in the gaming industry.
Rush has been a hypocrit before, but consider that he's a guy who makes his livelyhood off of free speech, and has come out swinging about his right to free expression when people who find his politics repugnant have said that he should be shut down and how free speech shouldn't apply to him. Really he's exactly the kind of guy you'd expect to have on your side in something like this if you really think about it.
I am a registered Republican because I agree with that side of things more and want to vote in the party primaries. I do go accross party on a lot of issues though as some might have noticed.
If your a hard core liberal, or anti-Republican, think of this as the "Darth Vader Factor". Rush has survived tons of stuff to stay where he is, and few things are more inspiring than seeing that one enemy you just can't beat show up on your side for a while.
It's a law passed by a Republican Governor (that's more left-of-center than his party) written by a Democrat Senator.Dom Kebbell said:
If anything, it's a by-partisan law.
lacktheknack said:
Could I ask for examples with their videos and full Fox clips from which the clips were yanked?Cocamaster said:
You know what to look for better then me. I don't have a massive counter argument to this prepared, but how come you're looking only at FOX attacks? You implied that YouTube is more balanced then FOX in every aspect.JourneyThroughHell said:
Anyways, I'll go looking if I can hack getting called "ur gay ******" by every second video I click.
I'm not saying that. I have seen some Fox News stuff. It's just that I tend to side more with the non-Christian, not too conservative people, so I happen to watch more of them.lacktheknack said:
Also, well, that's YouTube for you.
Nearly every state has its own (ranges widely) definition of what is a Democrat or Republican. So it is no surprise that the Governator might be called a Republican in CA but in other states he would be a Democrat.I would like to say that I am in no way surprised that it was CA that has tried this being a big nanny state that it is.lacktheknack said:
I am human I sometimes do dumb things, I know this. I also know that it is my own fault when those dumb things end up hurting me in some way. It was not others fault for the harm done, people must take responsibility for their dumb acts. I know that using a toaster for a bath toy is a bad idea, if I get hurt for doing so it is MY fault not the makers of that toaster! Same could be said for most things that are regulated or banded (Fireworks, power equitment, knives, guns, chemicals, I could make this list a mile long).
The more shameless Liberals wanted everyone to believe they actually said this, yes.HankMan said:
And that's exactly why I think YouTube are bigger mud-slingers than FOX could ever dream of being.JourneyThroughHell said:
Yea, it's totally not republicans who want the government to tell you how to live your life...archvile93 said:
As long as, you know, you're not gay or a pregnant woman.
To now act like Conservatives have always been defending video games is to just blindly ignore the past. Yea, Limbaugh defended video games, and that's very nice. But don't act like all the people over at Fox news are all pro-video games free speech and such.
Remember Mass Effect?
Rush is a complete and utter jerk, sarcastic and satirical. However, I've heard him say many things that I surprisingly agreed with. This is one of those moments.
He's not a sensationalist on the level of Beck, and he DEFINITELY isn't the high-horse moralfag Hannity is. He's more in the vein of Mark Levine.
Not to say that he's not nuts and not subjective, but when you cut out the conspiracy theories about liberals, democrats and the "ChiComs," and cut out the sarcasm (all those out of context youtube clips of him saying something racist or insensitive? yeah, context) he's actually pretty on the ball about stuff.
Ever hear him rant against Al Gore and the global warming freaks? LOL
I'd welcome him as an ally. Too bad it's kinda too late for him to use his influence to help us any.
He's not a sensationalist on the level of Beck, and he DEFINITELY isn't the high-horse moralfag Hannity is. He's more in the vein of Mark Levine.
Not to say that he's not nuts and not subjective, but when you cut out the conspiracy theories about liberals, democrats and the "ChiComs," and cut out the sarcasm (all those out of context youtube clips of him saying something racist or insensitive? yeah, context) he's actually pretty on the ball about stuff.
Ever hear him rant against Al Gore and the global warming freaks? LOL
I'd welcome him as an ally. Too bad it's kinda too late for him to use his influence to help us any.
I don't really have that much of an opinion on Limbaugh. I tend to disagree with most of his points, but he has enough "he does have a point" moments for me to not hate the guy.
OT: I would have expected him to be one of the bigger opponents of gaming. Goes to show you can't judge everyone right away.
OT: I would have expected him to be one of the bigger opponents of gaming. Goes to show you can't judge everyone right away.
They were somehow convinced that Bioware was selling interactive porn to kids. That has little to do with free speech.Glerken said:
In this thread: About three people who understand current politics and everyone else living under a rock.
Here's a hint to help those with modern US politics (modern being in the last 100 years, but primarily in the last 20 years):
1. Democrat has never meant 'for rights'. Examples: FCC. Prohibition. Arguable: Health care bill.
2. Republican has never meant 'for rights'. Examples: Patriot act.
3. Modern Democrats are uber-liberal. There are a plethora of in-context quotes and books (FROM THEM) that espouse them for being communist sympathizers.
4. Modern Republicans are uber-liberal-lite. There are a plethora of in-context quotes and books (FROM THEM) that espouse them for being communist sympathizers-lite. There's a reason the tea party exists and if you think it's anything other than the Republicans no longer holding the values that they held 20 years ago... you're what Lenin would call a 'useful idiot'.
For those of you who are "YAY COMMUNISM", that's real cool. All those video games you enjoy and love? That's pure capitalism.
Rush Limbaugh is pro-capitalism and pro-constitution. This being a shock to anybody shows both a lack of understanding of the stances that Rush Limbaugh holds but also a lack of understanding of modern politics.
Here's a hint to help those with modern US politics (modern being in the last 100 years, but primarily in the last 20 years):
1. Democrat has never meant 'for rights'. Examples: FCC. Prohibition. Arguable: Health care bill.
2. Republican has never meant 'for rights'. Examples: Patriot act.
3. Modern Democrats are uber-liberal. There are a plethora of in-context quotes and books (FROM THEM) that espouse them for being communist sympathizers.
4. Modern Republicans are uber-liberal-lite. There are a plethora of in-context quotes and books (FROM THEM) that espouse them for being communist sympathizers-lite. There's a reason the tea party exists and if you think it's anything other than the Republicans no longer holding the values that they held 20 years ago... you're what Lenin would call a 'useful idiot'.
For those of you who are "YAY COMMUNISM", that's real cool. All those video games you enjoy and love? That's pure capitalism.
Rush Limbaugh is pro-capitalism and pro-constitution. This being a shock to anybody shows both a lack of understanding of the stances that Rush Limbaugh holds but also a lack of understanding of modern politics.