I don't know why everybody is freaking out about him agreeing with us. He has always been a huge proponent of free speech in all media, and video games are a form of media, so....
lacktheknack said:Oh, come off it, guys. I bet everything you ever saw of Rush Limbaugh was a biased, no-context youtube clip. I've read one of his books, and he isn't half as insane as everyone thinks he is (although he still is a bit).
I'll take allies where I can find them.
I love the both of you so much it hurts. Until this thread, I was under the impression that the mere mention of Rush would result in nothing more than the oozing of hatred-infused bile from the other users of this site. I'm so very glad I'm wrong. I'm not exactly a tremendous fan, but it infuriates me every time he's painted as a white supremacist bigot Sith.Credge said:In this thread: About three people who understand current politics and everyone else living under a rock.
Here's a hint to help those with modern US politics (modern being in the last 100 years, but primarily in the last 20 years):
1. Democrat has never meant 'for rights'. Examples: FCC. Prohibition. Arguable: Health care bill.
2. Republican has never meant 'for rights'. Examples: Patriot act.
3. Modern Democrats are uber-liberal. There are a plethora of in-context quotes and books (FROM THEM) that espouse them for being communist sympathizers.
4. Modern Republicans are uber-liberal-lite. There are a plethora of in-context quotes and books (FROM THEM) that espouse them for being communist sympathizers-lite. There's a reason the tea party exists and if you think it's anything other than the Republicans no longer holding the values that they held 20 years ago... you're what Lenin would call a 'useful idiot'.
For those of you who are "YAY COMMUNISM", that's real cool. All those video games you enjoy and love? That's pure capitalism.
Rush Limbaugh is pro-capitalism and pro-constitution. This being a shock to anybody shows both a lack of understanding of the stances that Rush Limbaugh holds but also a lack of understanding of modern politics.
Just goes to show that you can be a complete idiot no matter what part of the political spectrum you fall under.Cocamaster said:It's a law passed by a Republican Governor (that's more left-of-center than his party) written by a Democrat Senator.Dom Kebbell said:accept it is a republican bill brought by the state of California. so no, not the current white house administration. twit.
If anything, it's a by-partisan law.
Yeah, just like Geraldo Rivera!Canid117 said:How long until Fox threatens to fire him if he doesn't retract the statement?
Find me anything that says (WITH CONTEXT) anything about "non-conservatives are terrorists", and I'll concede. Until then, I'm sure you're using hyperbole.HankMan said:So you're saying George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Fox News are actually liberal?lacktheknack said:The more shameless Liberals wanted everyone to believe they actually said this, yes.HankMan said:Yeah that whole CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO BAN GAY MARRIAGE and that IF YOU ARE NOT WITH US YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS bit were soooooooooooooooooo part of the liberal agenda.archvile93 said:What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
And JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR: I KNOW Cheney doesn't support the amendment thing.
Hate to break it to ya but liberals are just as guilty of that. Just sayin...Woodsey said:I'll never understand why a political group who wants the government to be as uninvolved with the public's lives as possible constantly demands the government to outlaw and restrict things.
Because the Patriot Act banned various unhealthy substances, added curfews, disallowed communications between different groups, and - wait.Xzi said:I lol'd. I suppose the Patriot Act was enacted to give us MORE freedom, then?archvile93 said:What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
"The Act was passed by wide margins in both houses of Congress and was supported by members of both the Republican and Democratic parties."Xzi said:I lol'd. I suppose the Patriot Act was enacted to give us MORE freedom, then? Clearly tapping everyone's phone was just an innocent prank.archvile93 said:What did ou expect? Liberals are the ones that like to have the government tell you how to live your life, not republicans.
Unfortunately you are incorrect about the original content. The Founding Fathers wished for America to be an example to the rest of the world, to show that their society was one of liberty and freedom (all this was, of course, in theory). The American Constitution served as a document of a new kind of political thought grounded in the logic of liberal thinkers like John Locke. Locke's concept of 'natural rights', that every person has a core set of inalienable rights as set forth by God was a huge part of the American political movement during the Revolution, and continued after when they were making the Constitution. The Constitution says people and means it, 'we the people' is used, but citizenship wasn't defined in the Constitution until the Fourteenth Amendment I believe. Yet the document states people, as can be seen in this youtube video by a member of the American Civil Liberties Union (who, I think we can safely say, has more knowledge on the subject them both of us combined):Cocamaster said:It reads "We the People of the United States", in an age where "citizenship" was applied to individual states, whose entire citizenry was collectivelly reffered to "the United States People".Blind Sight said:What I don't get is all those American conservatives (Limbaugh included) who seem to think that the constitution says that if you're not an American citizen you don't have any rights within America (thus giving them justification for treating foreign terrorist suspects like shit, etc.). Bullshit, the constitution says PEOPLE, not CITIZENS. Jesus people, at least read the damn constitution before you start to 'defend' it, I'm Canadian and I know more about it then you do.
Meaning that, in fact, "People" means "Citizens" in the U.S. Costitution.
I'm nether a U.S. American nor Canadian, but I know more about their Constitution than you do, apparently. Besides that, Canada's Immigration laws are strictier than in the U.S. You should know that.
Indeed, and I didn't say that wasn't the case, what I said is that there is a series of conservatives in the United States who, through ignorance, feel that the United States Constitution doesn't recognize the rights of any non-American person. That youtube video I posted above has a good example of Sarah Palin, and Limbaugh himself said this on Abu Ghraib:Sir John the Net Knight said:Non-citizens in America have more rights than they do in any other country in the world. If you don't believe me, get arrested in a country where you're not a citizen.Blind Sight said:What I don't get is all those American conservatives (Limbaugh included) who seem to think that the constitution says that if you're not an American citizen you don't have any rights within America (thus giving them justification for treating foreign terrorist suspects like shit, etc.). Bullshit, the constitution says PEOPLE, not CITIZENS. Jesus people, at least read the damn constitution before you start to 'defend' it, I'm Canadian and I know more about it then you do.