Serial Killer Round 70: Soviet Submarine Slaughter!

[Secondhand Revenant]

I'm still quite confused as to why we're going for EvilRoy. There's some proof / good assumptions about him being the Killer, sure, but are we sure he's actually the Killer? Because (sadly) Head's list didn't narrow things down whatsoever, we're just going to go for Roy..

But what if he isn't the Killer? What then? ... Because I have this nagging feeling he's innocent and we've just painted him American the whole time because of a few people speaking out. Although I suck at math and would need to look over some past posts to see what evidence is solid or 'ify' on people's behalf.

Even if he isn't the killer, and it's not like I'm trying to hand out any guarantees here, isn't it better than just distributing our votes haphazardly? I mean, if we do that, the RNG just decides anyway like with gritch. And it's not like I've been seeing anyone else collecting any evidence for a concrete suspicion on anyone else. I'm surprised everyone is suddenly acting like were a court of law rather than an angry lynching mob.

Also the court's gonna kill someone anyways. It shouldn't be "What if he's innocent?", it should be "Is there anyone who looks more guilty? No? Kill him"

 

[Fat Hippo]

@Fat_Hippo: I suppose ... yet, I just don't like people being ganged up on (personal history with that stuff, yea). If he does end up being the Killer, i'ma need to take classes from you guys on investigating because I could use the practice. However if he's innocent then I guess, as much as I hate to say it, does help narrow down the suspicions since everyone seems to suspect EvilRoy.

It's not like were planning to make this a running theme or anything. But like SR said, in the absence of better alternatives...

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

This means the lawyer and killer voted for DCJF or you. Neither DJ nor Dema seem to frequent the areas where the banjumper and just how much of a fight he caused would be common knowledge that I can see. A few posts from Dema in off topic but doesn't look frequent. So likely one of the four who voted for DCJF.

@Secondhand Revenant: You've made a lot of logical points, I must admit. Although I believe the Killer and/nor the Lawyer voted for me and went with DCJF instead. Why? Because after admitting in having a role, the Killer could of murdered me .. but didn't. I have no clue as to why, but they could of risked it and taken me out regardless. Just wanted to point that out and everything else you said was pretty solid.

@Fat_Hippo: I suppose ... yet, I just don't like people being ganged up on (personal history with that stuff, yea). If he does end up being the Killer, i'ma need to take classes from you guys on investigating because I could use the practice. However if he's innocent then I guess, as much as I hate to say it, does help narrow down the suspicions since everyone seems to suspect EvilRoy.

Well your problem was with people ganging up multiple times on the same guy for no reason right? We have a reason here so not quite the same. Ganging up is part of the game, just not the same guy without good reason.

Though... I'm really suspicious you didn't die. I mean after that I kind of half suspect you as the decoy trying to message the killer quietly.

SO GUYS SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE DONE BEFORE:

If you have a role you should tell the spy. He can help weed things out this way and ensure that, say, CF does indeed have a role. But this only works if everyone tells him as doing so stops lies since a double role popping up gives someone away. Always good to give the most information possible to a known spy

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@Secondhand Revnant: But if I was secretly messaging the Killer about such things ... why would I bother to tell you guys about having a role? And even then, I didn't know whom the Spy was until Head had died already. Although since he's alive, I could message him my role. But the problem is- how are you guys supposed to believe what role I have? Even if I showed a screenshot, that is almost as suspicious so it's a lose / lose for me anyways. .. kind of loses the point in trying to prove my innocence lol.

You didn't know who he was. You mentioned the role before the mystery account popped up. Edit : That is to say you didn't know who the Killer was to work with him so you needed some means of contact

And he'd know so long as all the people with roles tell him since if he gets two people telling him one role then there's an issue

I'm not too suspicious of you, just it brings to mind telling roles to the spy

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@Secondhand Revenant: Fair enough. I will PM him regardless and see what can be done.
Also you know what I meant bro :/ I don't keep track of time as much as I suck with math ... okay i'm not that bad at math but still.

Know what you meant by what? I'm a bit confused here.

I edited to make it clear why I thought you'd need to contact the killer

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

@Secondhand Revenant: Nah just as you stated- I announced my role, then suddenly the Killer / Lawyer's alternative account showed up. Head was revealed to die as the Spy, luckily to be revived by king whom I tried executing (my bad for reals) and now we got our Spy back. He was the 2nd person to die, and I think I revealed my role after he died but I am again not good at keeping track of timed events. Just keep in mind if EvilRoy ends up innocent, I will start suspecting you. You've been on em this whole time trying to get the lad executed (but at least you didn't go for him because he has 'Evil' in his name).

Anyways I PMed Head my role, and see what happens from there.

Oh I expect to die so badly if I'm wrong. Then I'll be shown to be innocent and I'll haunt a new person.

 

[Demagogue]

wanders around with a sign

Vote Roy! Vote Roy!!

 

[Crysan]

As a reminder of what I disclosed pages ago (since Roy brought it up), I was going to vote EvilRoy round 2 but switched to Secondhand instead. Then died.

 

[Jux]

Someone should photoshop a porno with Roy's head and the caption "The gang bang is real"

I did this last year in my fantasy football league, but with darth vader and palpatine gangbanging a terminator (not sure what model, it was the skull face one). Not sure if this needs to be said, but my team was 'Boba Fettish' and his had something to do with skynet.

 

[Armadox]

Rust makes an awful topping
Boxes are our master
Somebody open the door
I'm the killer.

 

[EvilRoy]

This means the lawyer and killer voted for DCJF or you. Neither DJ nor Dema seem to frequent the areas where the banjumper and just how much of a fight he caused would be common knowledge that I can see. A few posts from Dema in off topic but doesn't look frequent. So likely one of the four who voted for DCJF.

This is something that's always kind of bugged me about this. I mean, OK fair game to call me, the new guy, kind of dumb when it comes to killer/lawyer movement - but why would someone who has been here more than two rounds ever make that kind of mistake. Y'all keep saying it over and over - the killer and lawyer are supposed to vote together for the safest target. Knowing that, why the hell would the killer/lawyer ever vote for the safest target. It would immediately implicate them in every case by that logic. Unless they are directly in the line of fire it makes much more sense to just burn votes separately on "wishlist" individuals that would be nice if they died, but it isn't worth wasting a kill round on.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

This means the lawyer and killer voted for DCJF or you. Neither DJ nor Dema seem to frequent the areas where the banjumper and just how much of a fight he caused would be common knowledge that I can see. A few posts from Dema in off topic but doesn't look frequent. So likely one of the four who voted for DCJF.

This is something that's always kind of bugged me about this. I mean, OK fair game to call me, the new guy, kind of dumb when it comes to killer/lawyer movement - but why would someone who has been here more than two rounds ever make that kind of mistake. Y'all keep saying it over and over - the killer and lawyer are supposed to vote together for the safest target. Knowing that, why the hell would the killer/lawyer ever vote for the safest target. It would immediately implicate them in every case by that logic. Unless they are directly in the line of fire it makes much more sense to just burn votes separately on "wishlist" individuals that would be nice if they died, but it isn't worth wasting a kill round on.

The GM never made all the votes available before.

Also we had great success in getting people to admit who they voted for. Before this it was never fully revealed and I think last round we had just decided to only show the top two. The full list was kind of unexpected.

Edit: After this if the full reveal is now a standard thing I expect different voting patterns. But definitely for the first round I expect it to be the usual.

Oh and to elaborate, it's not usually easy to tell who voted for who and in what amounts. If it always was then yeah I'd expect them to not vote together that often.

 

[Aerosteam]

Rust makes an awful topping
Boxes are our master
Somebody open the door
I'm the killer.

Seems like you're the only player with the right amount of crazy to make an alt account anyway.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Rust makes an awful topping
Boxes are our master
Somebody open the door
I'm the killer.

Seems like you're the only player with the right amount of crazy to make an alt account anyway.

Or an evolving AI.

Or a doppelganger...

 

[Jux]

Someone should photoshop a porno with Roy's head and the caption "The gang bang is real"

I did this last year in my fantasy football league, but with darth vader and palpatine gangbanging a terminator (not sure what model, it was the skull face one). Not sure if this needs to be said, but my team was 'Boba Fettish' and his had something to do with skynet.

Lawl. Do you still have the image? I'd like to see it.

Yea, I think I have it at the home computer, I'll look for it when I get home tonight

 

[Armadox]

Bring out your dead.
Spray cheese on your groins.
Hear the liars shuffle
Secondhand is relevant..
But his words do not match..

 

[Demagogue]

Rust makes an awful topping
Boxes are our master
Somebody open the door
I'm the killer.

Seems like you're the only player with the right amount of crazy to make an alt account anyway.

That's exactly what I was saying when the alt account started... "This has Armadox written all over it"

but still... [HEADING=1]Vote Roy![/HEADING]

 

[EvilRoy]

This means the lawyer and killer voted for DCJF or you. Neither DJ nor Dema seem to frequent the areas where the banjumper and just how much of a fight he caused would be common knowledge that I can see. A few posts from Dema in off topic but doesn't look frequent. So likely one of the four who voted for DCJF.

This is something that's always kind of bugged me about this. I mean, OK fair game to call me, the new guy, kind of dumb when it comes to killer/lawyer movement - but why would someone who has been here more than two rounds ever make that kind of mistake. Y'all keep saying it over and over - the killer and lawyer are supposed to vote together for the safest target. Knowing that, why the hell would the killer/lawyer ever vote for the safest target. It would immediately implicate them in every case by that logic. Unless they are directly in the line of fire it makes much more sense to just burn votes separately on "wishlist" individuals that would be nice if they died, but it isn't worth wasting a kill round on.

The GM never made all the votes available before.

Also we had great success in getting people to admit who they voted for. Before this it was never fully revealed and I think last round we had just decided to only show the top two. The full list was kind of unexpected.

Edit: After this if the full reveal is now a standard thing I expect different voting patterns. But definitely for the first round I expect it to be the usual.

Oh and to elaborate, it's not usually easy to tell who voted for who and in what amounts. If it always was then yeah I'd expect them to not vote together that often.

Ah, I see. I guess I didn't realize that this was a knew thing at all. Or that I was the killer, and therefore obligated to vote in an obvious manner... hmmmmmmm...

 

[WhisperintheDeep]

Just popping in to let Boris and Natasha know that the deadline for Operation Paperclip will probably be around the end of round 6. Maybe 7, depending how on the ball the Medic is.

I'll be taking direct action after then.

 

[Dying_Jester]

Just gonna say it now, I voted to...Kilroy...

Anyways, when did I become suspect? I mean, wow. Totally out of left field. Not saying don't vote for me, if it turns out that Roy ain't the killer. But be sure to kill Dema first.
Bloke seems more suspicious then I do. If it's not him then definitely go for me next because I have absolutely no defense.

Also, what's this about a banjumper? While I do sometimes look at other forum threads, this is the only one I post in or keep an eye on.
Also also, saying that you've got a role is incriminating in no way. Last round I had an incredibly important role(Priest) and made sure everyone knew I had a role, just to see if I would be offed.
It also seemed like a good defense as I had then explained. What kind of idiot would just tell everyone that they have a role? So why would the killer waste time on someone who might be lying about having a role? So on and so forth.