Serial Killer Round 70: Soviet Submarine Slaughter!

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Secondhand Revenant said:
I thought of that too and told the spy to try it. It's why I tried to tell everyone to tell the spy their roles so he could communicate with you.

Apparently wouldn't have worked since altname thought of it too. But was worth a shot.
It was the right play, really.

Of course it's doomed to fail because there's no repercussions for the killer going after a medic's save, so it's an auto-vote choice. Really just hoping for the killer to slip up.
 

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@[user]Caramel Frappe[/user]

Figured that if anyone would turn traitor this round, after those PMs from Whisper went out, it'd be you. Especially with how much you seemed to be against voting for Roy.
Speaking of

@[user]EvilRoy[/user] Now that you've been found out, and put a bullet into your own noggin! What are you gonna do next?!
Please say, you're going to Disneyland. It's the American thing to say.
 

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altnameJag said:
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But I do want to know, how did you know I was the trickster specifically?
Lawyer powers. We were going to wait to get you until after Head and Jux, but we didn't get that far. Speaking of:
Caramel Frappe said:
The reason why I didn't get Lux killed earlier was because the dude PMed me super early. Getting him killed after he PMed me would of been an automatic red flag that I ratted em out... so I let him live for the time being. However, I do not know why Roy didn't have him killed sooner because Lux was the reason we lost this game.
We figured, what with Jux telling you they were the arbiter, that we'd give them a round in between to try and trow them off your scent. If we offed Jux right away, signs would point to you, and if you got executed Headsprouter's list would've actually been relevant.

It was a gamble.
That depends on if Jux told anyone else, right?

I don't think he can tell us about the PM after he died, right?
 

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Oh, Frappe I was curious... when did you get in contact with Jag/Roy? like did you know he was the killer off the cuff?

forget, i don't give a shit anymore.
 

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That was certainly an entertaining introduction round!

I think Frappe as doppelganger was pretty commonly guessed, even I was thinking "this is just over the top defense..." pretty quickly. It actually tipped the scales on me wanting to gun for Roy but then I died. :(
 

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Secondhand Revenant said:
altnameJag said:
crimson5pheonix said:
But I do want to know, how did you know I was the trickster specifically?
Lawyer powers. We were going to wait to get you until after Head and Jux, but we didn't get that far. Speaking of:
Caramel Frappe said:
The reason why I didn't get Lux killed earlier was because the dude PMed me super early. Getting him killed after he PMed me would of been an automatic red flag that I ratted em out... so I let him live for the time being. However, I do not know why Roy didn't have him killed sooner because Lux was the reason we lost this game.
We figured, what with Jux telling you they were the arbiter, that we'd give them a round in between to try and trow them off your scent. If we offed Jux right away, signs would point to you, and if you got executed Headsprouter's list would've actually been relevant.

It was a gamble.
That depends on if Jux told anyone else, right?

I don't think he can tell us about the PM after he died, right?
No? Huh, I might've figured that wrong then. I thought that rule only applied to post death Spy answers.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
@Secondhand Revenant: If I announced having a role publicly- you'd all look into it. Since you guys guessed I was the doppleganger ... you all assumed I could still side with you guys. And it worked too, though ... Roy died so that ploy was tarnished fast. Still, it was proven successful had things turned out differently.
I forgot that the Doppleganger was a free agent, and automatically assumed they were an additional "evil" side role.
And then I forgot you mentioned you had a role.
 

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altnameJag said:
Secondhand Revenant said:
I thought of that too and told the spy to try it. It's why I tried to tell everyone to tell the spy their roles so he could communicate with you.

Apparently wouldn't have worked since altname thought of it too. But was worth a shot.
It was the right play, really.

Of course it's doomed to fail because there's no repercussions for the killer going after a medic's save, so it's an auto-vote choice. Really just hoping for the killer to slip up.
Pretty much. Except I didn't see it mentioned much so I was hoping it had yet to come up and the killer may slip. Better a shot at it than no question. If head was coordinating more I may think otherwise but I got the impression he was pretty busy this round.

Caramel Frappe said:
@Demagogue: Excuse me? Showing way to many 'warning signs'? At least I was productive in my work and got things done. You betrayed your people the last minute and ended up losing alongside us Americans. You have no weight to your offensive words, Commie Traitor.
Well you did get some rightful suspicion. And he was right to want you dead apparently. But I feel like you probably did a good job keeping some of the heat off Roy. An opposing voice likely did something to convince some of those silent people
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
@Secondhand Revenant: If I announced having a role publicly- you'd all look into it. Since you guys guessed I was the doppleganger ... you all assumed I could still side with you guys. And it worked too, though ... Roy died so that ploy was tarnished fast. Still, it was proven successful had things turned out differently.
Honestly, Doppleganger siding with the good guys pretty much means the Spy is as powerful as ever. I figure Doppleganger should be like the Lawyer and is default on Team Bad Guy.
 

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Crysan said:
That was certainly an entertaining introduction round!

I think Frappe as doppelganger was pretty commonly guessed, even I was thinking "this is just over the top defense..." pretty quickly. It actually tipped the scales on me wanting to gun for Roy but then I died. :(
don't worry, you'll be remembered as the pumpkin guy no one remember.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
@Secondhand Revenant: If I announced having a role publicly- you'd all look into it. Since you guys guessed I was the doppleganger ... you all assumed I could still side with you guys. And it worked too, though ... Roy died so that ploy was tarnished fast. Still, it was proven successful had things turned out differently.
Actually I didn't think you could side with us. I figured I must have been mistaken since Jux trusted you. Damn XD

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Demagogue said:
Oh, Frappe I was curious... when did you get in contact with Jag/Roy? like did you know he was the killer off the cuff?
@Demagogue: People who were given this role are automatically told. snekadid told me I was the evil doppleganger and to help the Killer so yeah, off the start I was working for Roy. You all assumed I could go neutral but nope.
I figured you weren't automatically in contact and had to find the killer. Moar clarification needed before the round starts I think XD
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
Demagogue said:
Oh, Frappe I was curious... when did you get in contact with Jag/Roy? like did you know he was the killer off the cuff?
@Demagogue: People who were given this role are automatically told. snekadid told me I was the evil doppleganger and to help the Killer so yeah, off the start I was working for Roy. You all assumed I could go neutral but nope.
I have to admit you certainly played coy with Whisper.

Good thinking. An alt account to try and get potential traitors to out their roles would be kinda clever.
 

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Armadox said:
I'm all for joining next round if it can be started on the quick like.
We should clear up the rules quick then see when EvilRoy can start, assuming he had the free time.
 

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altnameJag said:
Caramel Frappe said:
Demagogue said:
Oh, Frappe I was curious... when did you get in contact with Jag/Roy? like did you know he was the killer off the cuff?
@Demagogue: People who were given this role are automatically told. snekadid told me I was the evil doppleganger and to help the Killer so yeah, off the start I was working for Roy. You all assumed I could go neutral but nope.
I have to admit you certainly played coy with Whisper.

Good thinking. An alt account to try and get potential traitors to out their roles would be kinda clever.
you know what else is a good idea? you getting in the sub-marries missile tube right now.
 

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altnameJag said:
Secondhand Revenant said:
altnameJag said:
crimson5pheonix said:
But I do want to know, how did you know I was the trickster specifically?
Lawyer powers. We were going to wait to get you until after Head and Jux, but we didn't get that far. Speaking of:
Caramel Frappe said:
The reason why I didn't get Lux killed earlier was because the dude PMed me super early. Getting him killed after he PMed me would of been an automatic red flag that I ratted em out... so I let him live for the time being. However, I do not know why Roy didn't have him killed sooner because Lux was the reason we lost this game.
We figured, what with Jux telling you they were the arbiter, that we'd give them a round in between to try and trow them off your scent. If we offed Jux right away, signs would point to you, and if you got executed Headsprouter's list would've actually been relevant.

It was a gamble.
That depends on if Jux told anyone else, right?

I don't think he can tell us about the PM after he died, right?
No? Huh, I might've figured that wrong then. I thought that rule only applied to post death Spy answers.
I thought it was 'No evidence'. Not sure if that would count as such or if that means no screen caps
 

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tf2godz said:
altnameJag said:
Caramel Frappe said:
Demagogue said:
Oh, Frappe I was curious... when did you get in contact with Jag/Roy? like did you know he was the killer off the cuff?
@Demagogue: People who were given this role are automatically told. snekadid told me I was the evil doppleganger and to help the Killer so yeah, off the start I was working for Roy. You all assumed I could go neutral but nope.
I have to admit you certainly played coy with Whisper.

Good thinking. An alt account to try and get potential traitors to out their roles would be kinda clever.
you know what else is a good idea? you getting in the sub-marries missile tube right now.
...alright, I'll hang-out with the nuclear weapons.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
@Secondhand Revenant: I must admit, i'm impressed with you of all people. Despite the odds, you kept going for Roy without ever giving up. Even in doubt or others trying to kill everyone else off (Roy vs Armadox cycle) ... you were convincing. Heck you got Lux to take out Roy- and if not for that, we would of overpowered you Commies in votes. So congrats to being the sole reason apart from Lux being the finishing blow- to win the Round. You're a hero :)
Thanks! Though I think it was getting suicidal by the end considering how many seemed to want to kill me by the end and how little progress we appeared to make.

Hippo was an ardent kill Roy supporter too I think. As were some of the poor dead people...

Also DCJF was the first to yell for the arbiter. I only echoed XD
 

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Dirty Cop James funs said:
@DeadRoy: Even in death, I am still a menace to thee!

But yeah, voting me off was a horrible idea. You should had just kept me alive as a scapegoat. Another horrible idea is playing up the victim card, because that shiz would just make you a red-target (Or should I say.... REDWHITEANDBLUE TARGET!) to people like me and Secondhand who simply do not buy into emotional appeals.
It definitely doesn't fit with what I think of as optimal gameplay for a rolless peasant so it makes me suspicious