I have to say that I completely agree with you here on almost every front right down to the personal feelings regarding pornography. That overly dominate male figure... honestly disturbs me in a lot of ways and makes me quite uncomfortable. I would describe it as being extremely selfish in the relationship. Some might say "Oh it's just porn" but... lots of people think that it's real and that that's how relationships are supposed to be and they go by that as if it's a manual.Burck said:I'll cut the basics and skip to something I've been thinking about recently.
Typical porn bores me now. Perhaps its partially the formulaic progression, but I feel that its because all too often its just the man asserting a dominant role. Yes, I know this is typically divulged through cliche "sex dialogue" and perhaps shouldn't be taken seriously, but why does it persist?
Its not even the dominance of the man that bothers me really: its just the lack of balance between the two participants... it just feels... selfish.
For me, sex is a reciprocal/symbiotic act. Pleasure for pleasure. Sensation for sensation. If sex is ever one-sided, it becomes well... its still sex, but its different. I suppose reciprocal sex is fueled by love and lust while selfish sex is just lust. Maybe some people are alright with that, but I don't find it quite as compelling.
Oh, and I hate America's stigma on virginity. It's degrading, and creates insecurities
yes but that doesn't mean Im glad to have learned that way...I'd take it back if I could.And that includes the porn watching tooMarik2 said:...Well you learn something new everydayAgDr_ODST said:I learned about both the opposite sex and sexual intercourse from browsing the internet and finding pictures of naked women and free online porn sites...Though later on after that my parents tried to impress upon me the idea that its a very special and intimate act to be shared only between a man and a woman who have married. And they kinda succeded, I like watching porn but I intend to wait and marry before i have sex my self
Man, I gotta say I really like this answer. It's about what I would say, but better put.Mimsofthedawg said:although I am admittedly tremendously conservative, I've found that sex is honestly what you make of it. Can it be something animalistic and "solely for pleasure"? Yes. Can it be a deeply emotional (some would say spiritual) connection where both participants transcend to a higher plane of reality? Yes. Is it better when you're doing it with someone you care for and love and dedicate yourself to fully? Yes. Is it better when you remain monogamous and truly stay faithful to your partner? Yes. Is it better when you find your name on a plaque in your frat house for winning the "Fuck most chics in a night" contest? Yes. Sex is goofy, it's sensual, it's a given freedom, it's powerful, and utterly meaningless. For every reason a psychologist/scientist can give for having sex for a biological and evolutionary reason, there seems to be another reason that science can't explain. The point is that sex is deeply personal. Someone saying that everyone who thinks sex is more than "Animalistic instincts" and faults them for the thought it has deeper meaning is just as wrong as someone who condemns others to hell for not waiting till marriage. The best way to think of sex is that it's the most sincere reflection of your inner self. You're valnerable, your empowered - sex is it's own contradiction. The biggest key in sex is to follow your heart; if it feels right, don't hesitate - if it feels wrong, stay away.
This one is good too hehe.Taipan700 said:It's also alot like pizza. When its good, its REALLY good, when its bad, its still pretty good.
That was nicely put.thenumberthirteen said:Sex is like money. Loads of it about, but I never seem to get any.
I think that might be it... Thankyou. Yes, natural fallacy didn't seem to fit. Appeal to nature, that's it. Why is it being natural automatically a free pass? My position on sex is unchanged lol.ThrobbingEgo said:brunothepig said:Sex is fun. It's perfectly natural (I hate that phrase, don't know why)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy
Scratch that. This is the one you want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature
There you go. Now your intuition is accompanied by a name and reason.
OK, guess I should have phrased that a little better. As long as it's consentual and with someone who's at least in their late teens, it's alright to have sex.370999 said:So a twelve year old and a twenty five year old are A-okay in your book?Durgiun said:My beliefs about sex: as long as it's consentual you have no right to stop it from happening. Some people would disagree, and those people need to get laid.
A) As I said, using a condom. You almost certaintly won't get AIDS (AIDS? Really? How many people do you know have AIDS?)Devin Parker said:There are a number of AIDS patients who might differ with you on that.TheRightToArmBears said:And I can't fathom the 'save it until marriage' mindset. Sex won't kill anyone, why would you force yourself to miss out on one of the joys in life for no apparent reason?
EDIT: Your argument also assumes that sex is best enjoyed outside of marriage. I'm arguing that it's the opposite: that sex is designed to be at its best and most fulfilling within marriage, so engaging in sex outside of marriage is actually indulging in a lesser version. Also, bear in mind that I'm arguing potentials, here - it's not always going to be fantastic in a marriage, and extramarital sex can be very exciting, but in the long run, you're cheating yourself out of something better.
That... was so poetic. I think i'm about to cry manly tears of awesome.saintchristopher said:I'm far too late to this thread for anyone to still be reading posts, but here's the real truth about sex.
It's not "for" procreation. Not anymore. It's technically not even the only way to procreate these days. So that argument is archaic, and in my opinion, invalidated.
It's not meant to be had with only one person. Limiting yourself to a single partner will not make it special. It will make it boring. There's an extremely real chance you will be completely incompatible with your one and only partner. And besides, you need to be with enough people that you can learn the difference between having sex and making love. There IS a difference.
No, sex is about a moment. A moment in which two people, in spite of their best efforts, are completely honest with each other. Naked, exhausted, and exhilarated, there is no hiding yourself in that moment.
Don't act surprised.Marik2 said:...Well you learn something new everydayAgDr_ODST said:I learned about both the opposite sex and sexual intercourse from browsing the internet and finding pictures of naked women and free online porn sites...Though later on after that my parents tried to impress upon me the idea that its a very special and intimate act to be shared only between a man and a woman who have married. And they kinda succeded, I like watching porn but I intend to wait and marry before i have sex my self