Shooting Spree in England.

[Malyc]

Why didn't anyone shoot back? Oh wait....

Y'know, that's exactly what I said after Columbine.

Schools in America have a no weapons allowed policy, meaning that there are supposed to be no guns on school property, and that students have to fight of gunmen with pencils, although after this happened my schools hired armed policemen to guard the place.

I was being sarcastic, but what this idiot is implying that you'd all be safer if the scholl lifted the "no weapons" policy.

When did I imply school kids should have guns? I don't recall that part...

He was raging at me, not you.

I think he was raging at both of us, of course it could just be me having a large ego...

I suppose he could be raging at both of us, and lol to the ego.

 

[Sarge7777]

I can't be the only one who thought of "Taxi Driver" can I?




Though that is a scary thing to happen.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Why didn't anyone shoot back? Oh wait....

Y'know, that's exactly what I said after Columbine.

Schools in America have a no weapons allowed policy, meaning that there are supposed to be no guns on school property, and that students have to fight of gunmen with pencils, although after this happened my schools hired armed policemen to guard the place.

I was being sarcastic, but what this idiot is implying that you'd all be safer if the scholl lifted the "no weapons" policy.

When did I imply school kids should have guns? I don't recall that part...

He was raging at me, not you.

I think he was raging at both of us, of course it could just be me having a large ego...

I suppose he could be raging at both of us, and lol to the ego.

I like how we were arguing over who was arguing with who.
"NO, HE'S PICKING A FIGHT WITH ME!"

 

[Malyc]

12 people killed by one madman with a gun.

You see, if we legalised guns over here, this sort of thing would happen much more frequently.

EDIT: Yes, OK, if guns were legal over here, someone could have stopped him. But then there would be a lot more guns on the streets, and thugs with knives would become thugs with guns. You can outrun someone with a knife. Outrunning bullets is something much harder.

Obviously they don't have bullet time over there. (joke)

I always wonder how people do that. It takes a lot of pressure for someone to actually snap. It makes me curious what was going through his head.

I think it probably depends on the personality and childhood of the person to determine how much pressure they need to be under to snap...

 

[crimson5pheonix]

I can't be the only one who thought of "Taxi Driver" can I?




Though that is a scary thing to happen.

I love that movie. But I don't think it would have come into play unless a taxi drove up next to him and blew him away.

 

[Malyc]

Why didn't anyone shoot back? Oh wait....

Y'know, that's exactly what I said after Columbine.

Schools in America have a no weapons allowed policy, meaning that there are supposed to be no guns on school property, and that students have to fight of gunmen with pencils, although after this happened my schools hired armed policemen to guard the place.

I was being sarcastic, but what this idiot is implying that you'd all be safer if the scholl lifted the "no weapons" policy.

When did I imply school kids should have guns? I don't recall that part...

He was raging at me, not you.

I think he was raging at both of us, of course it could just be me having a large ego...

I suppose he could be raging at both of us, and lol to the ego.

I like how we were arguing over who was arguing with who.
"NO, HE'S PICKING A FIGHT WITH ME!"

NO, WITH ME!!!

Seriously though, I like you're style.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Why didn't anyone shoot back? Oh wait....

Y'know, that's exactly what I said after Columbine.

Schools in America have a no weapons allowed policy, meaning that there are supposed to be no guns on school property, and that students have to fight of gunmen with pencils, although after this happened my schools hired armed policemen to guard the place.

I was being sarcastic, but what this idiot is implying that you'd all be safer if the scholl lifted the "no weapons" policy.

When did I imply school kids should have guns? I don't recall that part...

He was raging at me, not you.

I think he was raging at both of us, of course it could just be me having a large ego...

I suppose he could be raging at both of us, and lol to the ego.

I like how we were arguing over who was arguing with who.
"NO, HE'S PICKING A FIGHT WITH ME!"

NO, WITH ME!!!

Seriously though, I like you're style.

It's what I do.

 

[Malyc]

Why didn't anyone shoot back? Oh wait....

Y'know, that's exactly what I said after Columbine.

Schools in America have a no weapons allowed policy, meaning that there are supposed to be no guns on school property, and that students have to fight of gunmen with pencils, although after this happened my schools hired armed policemen to guard the place.

I was being sarcastic, but what this idiot is implying that you'd all be safer if the scholl lifted the "no weapons" policy.

When did I imply school kids should have guns? I don't recall that part...

He was raging at me, not you.

I think he was raging at both of us, of course it could just be me having a large ego...

I suppose he could be raging at both of us, and lol to the ego.

I like how we were arguing over who was arguing with who.
"NO, HE'S PICKING A FIGHT WITH ME!"

NO, WITH ME!!!

Seriously though, I like you're style.

It's what I do.

Good man.

I'll catch you later, gotta get ready for work.

 

[TOGSolid]

Knives are more lethal than firearms.

How do you come to that conclusion?

How? For an example a 9mm bullet is 1.169 inch long and diameter is .394 inch (over twice as small as a US dime). Compare to a kitchen knife is very very very small. If you get stabbed by a knife the chances are very very very great that it will hit a vital organ than a bullet. What firearms have is range.

ITT: People who don't know how bullets work. Hydrostatic shock is a *****.

About 600,000 people in Britain legally own a shotgun, most of them farmers and hunters in rural areas. Witnesses described Bird as using a shotgun or a rifle.

Anyone want to take bets that the UK government overreacts on this (as usual)?

There is no person more determined than someone who wants to go on a killing spree.

True story mang. Legalize them, illegalize em, it doesn't matter. Someone who wants to go start killing people will do it anyway they can. It just annoys me that whenever something like this happens, it turns into a damned debate, and a badly argued one at that. People always seem to forget about things like poverty levels, education levels, substance abuse issues, general cultural differences, and so forth. Also, don't forget raw size. The UK is a small place and what works for you probably works great partly because of that.
The US is a huge god damned country with a lot of variables. For instance where I live, I need a handgun. Not because I'm afraid I'm gonna get mugged, but because bears, wolves, and (if the latest sightings are true), cougars are a *****. I don't go hiking without my pistol tucked on my body somewhere because I don't want to get turned into kibble. Sure, I could just bring a shotgun, but that's bulky and if I am on a trail, I'd rather not have an exposed firearm just out of courtesy. I don't want to seem like some crazyman in case I do happen to run into other people out there.
Meanwhile I've got city dwelling assholes out there trying to dictate policy to me even though they live in what amounts to a totally different world. We're both Americans, but we're seperated by vastly different terrain, subtle cultural differences, and the fact that they probably haven't seen a wild animal up close ever. What works for them won't work up here, at all. So yes, I carry a concealed handgun when appropriate. It is a tool, and I use it as such. Deal with it.

 

[Winter Rat]

Gun control works great...for better gun control use both hands and restrict yourself to 3-5 round bursts.

 

[Double A]

um... I think this proves something about gun control but im not sure what...

That if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns is the quote you're looking for.

 

[TOGSolid]

Gun control works great...for better gun control use both hands and restrict yourself to 3-5 round bursts.

Don't forget proper stance!

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Gun control works great...for better gun control use both hands and restrict yourself to 3-5 round bursts.

This made my day. Thank you.

 

[fix-the-spade]

You see, if we legalised guns over here, this sort of thing would happen much more frequently.

By all evidence the guns he used were not only legal, but licensed to him.


Stupid bastard, if he was that desperate to kill himself why couldn't he just have got on with it and left everyone else in peace.

 

[Sewblon]

I can't be the only one who thought of "Taxi Driver" can I?




Though that is a scary thing to happen.

I thought of Taxi Driver too.

 

[tim98042]

my heart go out to the families of the victims, terrible news, he must have been mentally ill or somthing surely anybody must be to kill innocent people in cold blood.

 

[Legend of J]

How has this topic now turned into an argument against the us and england lol.

Well i think we have it in the right yes it is bad news that people have died by gun related crime but how many people die a day from gun crime in the usa?.

 

[Winter Rat]

Gun control works great...for better gun control use both hands and restrict yourself to 3-5 round bursts.

Don't forget proper stance!

Not such a big fan of stances, I teach neutral interchangeable lower body posture. As long as you've got the proper grip for a pistol or the stock in the pocket with your shoulders square with a long gun, you're probably fine. Watch the front sight and have a clean trigger break is the main thing.

On topic, my point is that even near total gun control laws on an ISLAND NATION are not sufficient to prevent these kind of rampages, which are why most gun control advocates advocate gun control in the first place. Perhaps we should focus on reducing and controlling crime in general. These kinds of incidents are horrific and tragic, but ultimately account for .0001% of violent crimes, even in the US. Just like shark attacks, they make scary news footage, but aren't a major societal problem.

 

[Winter Rat]

Gun control works great...for better gun control use both hands and restrict yourself to 3-5 round bursts.

This made my day. Thank you.

I do what I can.