Sick of MovieBob Bashing Call of Duty?

[Jarek Mace]

Jim Sterling may be a right ass, but I respect him. Many of our views are the same and his opinions are formed through first hand experience of the industry he talks about. MovieBob knows a lot about movies, but when video games come into play it's like a Neanderthal getting angry at this new-fangled technology known as 'fire'.
He knows squat about it, but is fearful and disdainful of it regardless.

Captcha: righty tighty

Thank you, I know I am.

 

[wizzy555]

I personally find it a bit irritating, especially since the market is full of retro nintendo nostalgia just as moviebob wants. Why complain about call of duty saturating the market? It isn't!

But I've never played call of duty, and never found myself in a situation where it is rammed down my throat so it is nothing to me anyway.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

The problem is.... Call of duty sucks, if it were not for the zombie stuff in it it would be worthless.

 

[Eddie the head]

And how exactly do you define these, "proper traditional style RPGs," my elitist friend?

My guess is clutching to outdated ideas. "What you invoked the holy spirit and not the Muse? IT'S NOT A TRUE EPIC." Sometime genres change or get outdated and sometimes people hate that.

In case you where wondering I was referring to "Paradise Lost" an epic that updated the old "invoke the spirit of the Muse" into "invoke the holy spirit" Milton was a christen so he didn't want to invoke the spirit of a Greek god.

 

[DJjaffacake]

And how exactly do you define these, "proper traditional style RPGs," my elitist friend?

Games in which your characters stats/skills/dice rolls and tactics determine the outcome, not the players 'twich' skills or ability to button mash or manipulate a k&m/controller.

Sooo, games like, for instance, Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age Origins, and Mount and Blade?

 

[Murais]

No.

Mandatory-character-count-is-mandatory.

 

[Delsana]

Personally, Just how many people buy COD for the story rather then the Massive and Addicting Multi-Player?
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That's what I thought...

I rent it for the story. It's a repetitive and lackluster multiplayer that plays like all other multiplayer styles. But the story is somewhat military-realistic.

 

[ElPatron]

Though it's hard to argue with someone who's main argument is, "I don't live in your country, but from what I hear, it's like this: _________."

Except what I said was that some friends of mine (who are legit American citizens) had what can be described as... a different experience. In a country with an area of 3.5 million square miles.

B., every soldier says that there is NOTHING a video game can teach you about real combat. You're just absolutely WRONG.

Might be a lame example, but helping someone with severed fingers? You're arguing againt a person which I don't identify with. I am not here trying to promote Call of Duty as a training aid - you might want to talk with the media if your jimmies got that rustled.

You can learn the skills the dude used in many other places, not just America's Army. But you made such a broad statement that I couldn't resist countering it.

Next time, don't make broad statements and don't write "wrong" in caps - specially if I never said what you are trying to disprove. At least if you're not trying to make things personal.

(And what the fuck does a soldier's opinion have anything to do with anything? His "opinion" is his drill instructor's opinion. If a soldier is taught that the lethality of the 5.56x45mm round comes from an unstable twist rate, he will fucking believe it.)

I rent it for the story. It's a repetitive and lackluster multiplayer that plays like all other multiplayer styles. But the story is somewhat military-realistic.

lol. Guy joins SAS. Instant promotion to Sergent. REALISM!

 

[DJjaffacake]

And how exactly do you define these, "proper traditional style RPGs," my elitist friend?

Games in which your characters stats/skills/dice rolls and tactics determine the outcome, not the players 'twich' skills or ability to button mash or manipulate a k&m/controller.

Sooo, games like, for instance, Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age Origins, and Mount and Blade?

Mount & Blade I would say no. Doesn't that have action gameplay ? (never played it, but I did hear the combat was actually pretty good though)

It does, but if you're a low level character trying to take on an opponent of reasonable quality on your own, I hope you enjoy having your arse handed to you.

As for DAO and KotOR, I would say yes. (not that they were particularly good combat systems) but at least they relied on the characters stats and not your own reflexes.

This is where my point was leading. I enjoy COD a great deal. I also enjoy ME (not so much Skyrim though). And, the key point is that I also enjoy KOTOR and DA:O. My point being that, as I said earlier, albeit slightly differently, it is possible to like both. You seem to be implying in your posts that COD/Gears players are somehow incapable of playing anything that doesn't play like those games.

Of course, I could be misinterpreting you, but comments like, "I guess they'll always be fresh 10 year olds ready to fill in and keep the tradition going," and, "proper traditional style RPG," don't exactly lend themselves to that view.

 

[joe51498]

To harp on the original point of the thread, I don't think it's proper to all pile on moviebob for him disliking the games. That being said the majority of his points against the series are generally well thought out and measured. I think movie bob has less of an issue with whatever points the series is trying to make, but more with the general ham-handeness and dudebro chest thumping that surrounds the whole thing.

 

[NortherWolf]

Erh, long ago I liked MovieBob. Then I saw the review where he claimed you are a horrible person and that you shouldn't be allowed to breed if you like Transformers 2*shrugs*
Stopped watching him but hesitantly went back a long time later, but realized all he does is masturbate thinking of Nintendo, harp on Halo and troll fans. So, he's probably the worst Online Persona since the Irate Gamer. I'd actually say he's worse than IG.

 

[jackinmydaniels]

Eh, I don't like Moviebob at all really. Not anymore anyway,I stopped paying him any mind as soon as he was bitching about Michael Bay destroying his beloved transformers then immediately got on everybody's case for the Mass Effect thing.

 

[Torrasque]

I'm not quite sure it's possible to bash CoD enough actually.

This. I play CoD and I can't bash it enough, all of them except CoD4 and slightly MW2 are absolutely terrible, especially due to the ridiculous patches that fuck up the game balance even more than it already is.

Edit: also, I agree with MovieBob's analysis. It makes a lot of sense.

 

[xaszatm]

Going to be real quick here, so listen up: One can like the Primes or Other M (for some unholy reason). But, from a technical standpoint, Other M is NOT a Metroidvania game (among other things)

What do i mean by that? Well, in the same way that Super Metroid took the Metroid formula and expanded it in such a way that made it THE example of all metroidvanias games to follow. The Prime series took it to the FP Perspective and managed to apply the formula to THE STORY, in the same way that the collectables are there for you if you WANT to, the story/lore is there for you if you just want to look for it.

Spoiler

If you really need to know why Other M has NO defense whatsoever, then i suggest this piece of Red Letter Media Style of analyzis:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13373815860B43920100&i_id=13373815860I43921400&p=1

...? I never said that Other M was was a metroid-vania game. I said that I preferred the gameplay style over Metroid Prime. Also, I said I liked the gameplay, I thought that the way Other M told its story was poor (although the story itself was alright).

If you like FPS or first-person perspective, I am okay with it. If you preferred the Prime Trilogy, that's wonderful. I cannot physically play first-person games (or most third-person for that matter...curse you over-sensitive eyes!), so I prefer Other M. Do I think it is the best? Nope, my favorite is still Fusion. But it is an opinion, please do not bash it for no reason.

 

[DioWallachia]

...? I never said that Other M was was a metroid-vania game. I said that I preferred the gameplay style over Metroid Prime. Also, I said I liked the gameplay, I thought that the way Other M told its story was poor (although the story itself was alright).

If you like FPS or first-person perspective, I am okay with it. If you preferred the Prime Trilogy, that's wonderful. I cannot physically play first-person games (or most third-person for that matter...curse you over-sensitive eyes!), so I prefer Other M. Do I think it is the best? Nope, my favorite is still Fusion. But it is an opinion, please do not bash it for no reason.

I just went technical on the "liking Other M" rather than bashing it. I wanted to express the fact that is hard to like Other M AS A METROID GAME because it threw the formula out the window and didn't add anything new.
Can you like the game? sure, but it is hardly on the same breed as the rest of the series. So its kinda like someone doing an adaptation from a book to a movie, and the movie of the same name as the book as NOTHING TO DO with the original material to the point that you ask: "Why they even bothered to pay for the rights of the book when they end up changing everything to the point that it is UNRECOGNIZABLE to the original?" It may have been good/bad on his own but still makes you wonder why even have that name title to being with.

 

[Wolf In A Bear Suit]

I'm going to start by saying I hate all post CoD 4 Call of duty games with a burning passion that can only manifest itself after seeing the games make enough money for an olympic swimming pool full of money. That said I'm going to reserve judgement on Black ops 2 because at least its taking a step away from the well trodden CoD ground and trying something a little different.

 

[drummond13]

Moviebob has a blog?

And people read it?

Just...why?