Sign a petition for a more mature Pokemon anime!

[manic_depressive13]

Huh. I didn't understand a word of that, what with my not being Japanese. The only thing that suggests it will be more "mature" is that the music is a bit angrier. It still looks shit.

 

[Stu35]

Inspired by the awesome animated trailer for Pokemon Black & White 2, a petition has been made to make a more mature Pokemon anime!!

Why?

I was a child when Pokemon red & blue came out, and naturally I got into it...

I'm a grown man now, I no longer care for Pokemon. It should be for children.

I'm not saying that it's wrong for adults to enjoy it, if they want. Simply that it should not be "more mature" as a show - it's your job to to grow up, not a franchise aimed at Children.

The Power Rangers, Thundercats, He-Man, these are all things I used to love as a child, in no way do I expect them to make more mature versions of these things just to facilitate the fact I'm older now.

Or if there isn't enough space I'll go to the Chamber of Understanding to try and figure out why there are so many petitions.

First - lol.

Second - Laziness. People who would never bother to go to the effort of printing out paper, going round town and asking for help for their ridiculous causes have realised they can click a few buttons and demand the whole world supports their nonsense.

At least Jehovahs Witnesses still put the effort in.

 

[OrpheusTelos]

NO. Y U WANT THIS?

Seriously, it's just a kids show. Would Yu-gi-Oh be any better if people got decapitated if they lost a duel?

Come to think of it, it probably would. But my point stands!

Considering how much Yugioh was censored in the english version, that probably DID happen.

 

[Something Amyss]

Hmmm... trying to imagine a "more mature" take on Pokemon. I imagine the trailer would be something like this...

In a world torn apart by war, where society teeters on the brink of collapse, one boy must venture across the wastelands, and discover the truth about those god-like beings that mankind sought to control. The ancient creatures of unimaginable power, the harbingers of mankind's destruction... the Pokemon.

*Menacing shot of an Apache helicopter being taken out by a Charizard*

Ash: I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away...

Join us for a bold new adventure into the world of the dreaded pocket monsters. When civilisation stands at the edge of destruction, undone by the very creatures it once sought to control, only one young boy and his friends stand between humanity and annihilation.

*Cut to a shot of a Zapdos electrifying the shit out of a tank battalion*

Witness the rise of mankind's greatest threat!

*Shot of a flock of Pidgeots flying down a high street, attacking all humans in their way*

See the result of mankind's hubris!

*Shot of Misty being mind-raped by MewTwo*

When everything stands to be lost-

*Shot of Brock weeping over a prostrate Onyx, slowly dying from Silica-Calcite poisoning*

-then pray that Ash can save us from.... the Pokemon!

Dah-Dah-Dah!!

Pokemon! Gotta kill them all!

...yeah, I think I'll stick with the regular Pokemon. The setting only really works as a light-hearted adventure romp. Try and make things darker and edgier, and you get the fundamental question of just why people are using dinosaurs and dragons with god-like powers in cock-fights with each other...

Now, if you turn it into a gritty brown and grey FPS, SOLD!

 

[Sixcess]

I'm surprised noone has mentioned this yet

Spoiler

As amusing as it would be, the basic premise of Pokemon is too improbable for a darker and edgier take, unless you really do want dead and dying pokemon littering the floors of the arenas.

 

[Girl With One Eye]

"I don't know how to tell you this, but I'm afraid you have stage IV cancer. You're going to have to make a difficult choice between keeping the baby, or taking chemotherapy."

"Pika?"

There must be something wrong with me, because I found this hilarious.

OT: Why does pokemon have to be "mature"? If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!

 

[Pharsalus]

Your two core ideas; pokemon and maturity are pretty much mutually exclusive. Love it for the kids show it is or leave it behind in the attic toybox.

 

[Greg Waller]

I've seen enough pokemon hentai to know where this is going.

 

[Blunderboy]

Yet if it was a Hollywood studio saying the same thing there would be nothing but pissing an moaning.

 

[bjj hero]

Instead of wanting a gritty re boot go and watch watership down [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watership_Down_(film)] instead if you want to see rabbits murder each other.

This is one of the worst ideas Ive ever heard. A adult version of a kids show about a cute magical mouse? Terrible.

 

[hazabaza1]

Fucking GrimDark. Fuck it.
I want some goddamn happiness and rainbows from something that isn't MLP.

 

[Fayathon]

I love how so many people are stating that Pokemon is supposed to be aimed a children.

No, no it's not, at least it wasn't originally, and the Special manga proves that, it had an Arbok getting decapitated in the first damned issue.

That said, I didn't notice anything truly 'dark' or 'gritty' in the OP's video, hell that was tame by Pokemon Special standards, unless I'm missing something from not speaking Japanese, and it definitely looks more interesting than The Recurring Adventures of Dumbfuck McGee and Pikachu.

 

[go-10]

give me an Pokemon anime based on Black and White universe, where Touko and fem.protagonist of B&W2 are the main characters with stories focusing on them growing up and deciding between battling against "evil team" while deciding the fate of all Pokemon, wether they need to be free wild animals or enclosed to spend their lives inside a ball only coming out to fight other Pokemon who will either suffer their same fate or get beaten until KO... assuming they themselves don't get KO first

see you don't need grim dark characters or anything all you need is to focus the story on something that's been happening since the show began but has been ignored for years now

 

[Verzin]

I would LOOOVE this. I've spent so much time in the pokemon universe and I'd be ecstatic if this was to happen! Fingers crossed.

 

[Someone Depressing]

I like the games, I hate the anime. It makes me want to throw up in a bucket, eat it, throw up, eat, rinse and repeat until I eventually die from barfing out my major organs.

But this is dumb. It's a kid's show. If anything has taught me anything, it's that sometimes you have to leave stages of your life behind. It's a kids' show. The only people who'd be interested in making it more edgy are most likely going to be adults, now. And if they're still watching it, my brain's kind of having a big debate with all of the brain-cells over whether or not to laugh or cry about that.

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

It's not going THAT far, just more of what we saw in the trailer, and something that follows the game's plot nowadays.

Also, isn't Spiderman targeted at kids? Even the comics? In the 60's it was strictly kids thing. Later in the 80's, it got a bit more mature, with adding new looks to some villains and introductions of serial killers Venom and Carnage(along with adding supervillains actually killing civilians). Spiderman suddenly became attractive to an older audience and it made the product better and it brought a wider audience (until that Maximum Carnage debacle).

Another example: Wolverine. He was introduced just to look cool. He had metal claws, but never killed anyone. Another "just for kids" character. Then the 80's gave him a new look, a tiny bit of backstory, and was suddenly gutting soldiers and robots(with a horrifying panel showing Magneto ripping the metal from his flesh). Another product that matured with its audience, and with that, the fanbase got larger and the product's quality increased.

Also, X-men. No explanation needed there.

This is actually a major f---ing problem now as some kids aren't able to buy/read comics. My locals had to turn down kid's buying comics because it was a Batman story where a guy gets his face cut off. Batman's one of those extreme examples and Spiderman has (despite the 80's-90's and that One More Day... event) been dropped down so it's appropriate for kids, at least in general. Adding graphic violence and mature themes actually shrinks your fanbase as adults (until recently) saw comics as being too childish to read, only people who read them when they were younger were still interested and kids couldn't join because they'd see people get blown up. Still means the average comic readers starting age is bumped up to being 14-19.

So that's kind of my problem here, changing a media so it excludes the main demographic is a bad thing. If you want mature themed pokemon read Pokemon Special like someone pointed out above, that series was fairly grimdark (pretty sure Red still has depth perception problems from being frozen and Silver's whole backstory) but that's because it's geared at teenagers. Don't take the kid's pokemon away from them, it's their time now.

 

[RJ 17]

..........................I'm not going to judge...all I'm going to say is "Wow..."

Silly Escapists! Trix Kids shows are for Kids!

 

[TJC]

frankly, the show shouldn't be more mature but rather less retarded and formulaic. The Pokemon Adventures manga actually manages to excite and engage the reader with new main characters and a story set around the games rather than about a delirious ten-year-old stuck in a coma dream. And even when old characters return its always with a bang and pretty awesome.

Really, I'd like the show if it weren't for Ash and team rocket. I honestly can't stand their fucking faces anymore.

 

[NoOne852]

I liked the orginal series with Ash, Misty (she never got that new bike), and Brock. It could be childish, but it also had its serious moments like when Charmader's flame was nearly put out, which would kill him(her?) or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsBOBm16hZ0 (It's a low quality video, you've been warned). Of course that could be nostalgia talking, but I refuse to watch the new series cause it is garbled kid pleasure. Oh look this pokemon, now it is doing something! We are always happier than a starving bear in a butcher shop freezer! Bah. The even higher pitched voices are equally annoying now that most every character (including the pokemon) have them now. I can handle a couple and maybe a pokemon or two that come and go, but the new series is just too much.

I would certainly give this version of pokemon a shot, and there actually seems to be an interesting story going on. I don't see why so many people are shooting this idea down because it is from a kids show. Why not make something more out of it? It will probably work, although it could be a bit surreal if they don't play out some of the....less serious pokemon right. I think this has a chance, and would be interested in watching it should it come out.

 

[elvor0]

It's not going THAT far, just more of what we saw in the trailer, and something that follows the game's plot nowadays.

Also, isn't Spiderman targeted at kids? Even the comics? In the 60's it was strictly kids thing. Later in the 80's, it got a bit more mature, with adding new looks to some villains and introductions of serial killers Venom and Carnage(along with adding supervillains actually killing civilians). Spiderman suddenly became attractive to an older audience and it made the product better and it brought a wider audience (until that Maximum Carnage debacle).

Another example: Wolverine. He was introduced just to look cool. He had metal claws, but never killed anyone. Another "just for kids" character. Then the 80's gave him a new look, a tiny bit of backstory, and was suddenly gutting soldiers and robots(with a horrifying panel showing Magneto ripping the metal from his flesh). Another product that matured with its audience, and with that, the fanbase got larger and the product's quality increased.

Also, X-men. No explanation needed there.

This is actually a major f---ing problem now as some kids aren't able to buy/read comics. My locals had to turn down kid's buying comics because it was a Batman story where a guy gets his face cut off. Batman's one of those extreme examples and Spiderman has (despite the 80's-90's and that One More Day... event) been dropped down so it's appropriate for kids, at least in general. Adding graphic violence and mature themes actually shrinks your fanbase as adults (until recently) saw comics as being too childish to read, only people who read them when they were younger were still interested and kids couldn't join because they'd see people get blown up. Still means the average comic readers starting age is bumped up to being 14-19.

I believe they still do do kid versions of comics, I know Spider Man and Wolverine have one, it was just the way the medium evolved, I know I wouldn't be reading them if they hadn't gained at least a little substance, as it wouldn't appeal to me if it was purely kids entertainment. It's just one of those niche markets with a specialist customer base that's awkward to break out of in the current age of TV and Games, most kids don't want to read comics, let alone books. The best you can do is make them watch (yes make) Batman TAS, Superman Tas, Justice League, X-Men and the 90s Spiderman show, they have the perfect balance of adult/kid entertainment value.

The problem is outside of comic fans (and Batman), people still have the opinion of comics being for kids, when 90% of them are actually pretty mature, let alone stuff like Preacher and The Boys, it's one of those cases where the general consensus is almost the opposite of the truth, but I do agree with you that there should be a Kids line of the iconic dudes like the DC trinity and Marvels popular dudes.