Smacked children more successful later in life, study finds

[Erana]

I was smacked by my mother once- the American kinda smack.
To be honest, I deserved that one.

My father, on the other hand, spanked me, hit the entire family, and had a lot of "accidents" when he didn't get his way.
He dropped me on the head as an infant a few times, too.
Still, I turned out fine, right?

 

[mayney93]

really coz i find that its poorer family's that smack there kids, those kids hate there situation so have more raw determination to get out of it, so pfft , colleration does not mean cause, stupid researchers

 

[pirateninj4]

He he, yea I was smacked as a child. But only for serious stuff like lying to the olds, stealing, using the 'f' word and also the 'c' word and getting into fights, getting caught with the old man's pron stash etc.

I think it instills a healthy respect for boundaries and it also teaches you to be way more careful when taking risks. Cause you know what it feels like to get caught.

 

[RanD00M]

Interesting.

Now i have a reason as to why i would hit my kids,if i were to have any.

Probably wouldn't though.

Were you smacked as a child?.

No i was not.I have near perfect parents.

If they were near-perfect, they would have swatted you properly

As i said.Near perfect,if they would be perfect,they would be beating my ass as i type.

 

[Aerodyamic]

Not saying I don't agree but, Fact: Einstein was beaten to death's doorstep several times in his childhood.

To quote Denis Leary:

"I got the shit beat outta me as a kid, and I'm looking forward to beating the shit outta my kids! Therapy? Therapy was mowing the lawn while crying! 'The Leary kid must be in therapy again; their lawn looks GREAT!' WAAAAAAAAH-BRRRRRRRRR-WAAAAAAAH-BRRRRRRRR!"

Let's remember, the acceptable behaviour of most Catholic parents in North America 25 years ago was markedly different that the current over-coddling and the modern 'Cult of the Child' being peddled by the Baby Boombers.

You know, the ones that are busy robbing the hell out of us, through our grandkids?

 

[TSED]

When i was a kid my father beat me harshly on a regular basis, hence why I do not have anything to do with him and I vowed that I would never grow up to be like him.

...

If you smack as a punishment, what happens when they grow up thinking that is the only way to control their own kids? It becomes a viscous cycle.

Really now?



Anyways. Many points were made along the lines of "be a good parent" and "needed for respect" and the like. I contend that it's needed for discipline. Children do NOT have self-discipline and any form of punishment that actually works will do fine. But you know what? It's a LOT harder to successfully ground a kid than it is to cuff their ear. Don't go crazy with it, but seriously, think of yourself as a child. When you got grounded, did you do your absolute best to get around it?

I sure did. I got to the point where I could tell if a parent was coming towards my room from any where else in the house. Stayed up waaaay late reading (6-10 year olds shouldn't be up past midnight on a regular basis, right?). Video games. Snuck on to my computers. All sorts of stuff.

On top of that built-in shaky grounds, you need smarter children, who are more likely to find ways around the punishment in the first place! Ones who can piece cause and effect together effectively and realise "man I wish I could do X, maybe I shouldn't do Y again." When a child gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar, that's grounding. When a child gets chased around by their big sister with a knife (true story, no I'm not the sister) maybe a 'grounding' isn't quite an appropriate response.

It's a complicated issue. Some parents just don't know how to hit their kids and do it when not appropriate (and/or with excessive force). Some parents find their kids don't need to be hit. Some parents do need to hit their kids, but won't.

Disclaimer: I hate kids. Bunch of greedy snot-nosed mentally incapable brats, and these days their sense of self-entitlement makes them even MORE unbearable. Goodness graces I sound like I'm twice my age.

 

[brunothepig]

OR!!!

Back in the day, hitting was socially acceptable, a common form of punishment. If you didn't hit your child, chances are it's because the parent didn't care enough to discipline you. If those same parents who cared enough to discipline there kids, but did it in a way besides hitting, they might have been even more successful. Come on, Correlation does not equal Causation is Psych 101. There is likely not a more basic Psych Research skill. Also, lets not forget a very small population size, Sampling error is a very real possibility, and experimenter bias. I smell a rat.

In year 11 maths we were told to memorise the phrase "a cause-effect relationship can not be inferred." So, yeah. Just cause there's a correlation between two figures, doesn't mean they affect each other. Did you know that cities with more firemen have more fires per year, on average? And that cities with more churches have more crime, on average?

 

[rossatdi]

The Telegraph [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6926823/Smacked-children-more-successful-later-in-life-study-finds.html] reports that smacked children are more successful later in life than those who are not.

They mention that the research conducted in the United States, is likely to anger children?s rights campaigners who have unsuccessfully fought to ban smacking in Britain. It goes onto say that teenagers who had been hit by their parents from age seven to 11 were also found to be more successful at school than those not smacked but fared less well on some negative measures, such as getting involved in more fights.

As a counter point they say that previous studies have suggested that smacking children can lead them to develop behavioural problems such as being more aggressive.

So tell me, do you agree with this study about how children fare better if they were subjected to "reasonable chastisement"?. Were you smacked as a child?.

Oh and "smacking" means to hit, it's a british slang word.

What the debate rarely lacks is the maturity of distinguishing between the occasional smack on the bottom and regular beatings for minor things.

I was smacked a couple of times as a kid (the logic being I didn't need to be smacked very much to see the pattern).

Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]

 

[Scizophrenic Llama]

I was smacked as a child, and it was within reason. I did something bad and was smacked, ergo I stopped doing whatever it was that was bad.

It is the same concept as sticking your hand in a fire. I guarantee anybody at some point in their life has put their hand on something hot and burned themselves. I also guarantee that they will not willingly do that again. It creates the mindset, "That hurt, I will get burned if I do it again." Just replace that with, "That is bad, I will get hit if I do it again."

Not really creating fear, but just the sense that it is wrong. How this makes people successful? I don't know. Maybe people don't do as much stupid shit because they know it is wrong.

 

[BonsaiK]

So tell me, do you agree with this study about how children fare better if they were subjected to "reasonable chastisement"?. Were you smacked as a child?.

I was certainly smacked the fuck up as a child and I'm wildly unsuccessful nowadays at least in terms of income earnt. Most people reading this would probably earn more money than me, even those still in school. However, I'm where I want to be in most other aspects of my life and I suppose I live a pretty "interesting" life by some people's standards, so I'm moderately successful in terms of my own personal goals even if I have to ration my food occasionally.

 

[WrongSprite]

How ridiculous.

Successful doesn't mean they wouldn't be fucked up. A lot of the time cold and hearless = success.

Oh wait, the Telegraph? Hahaha, I see we're trusting shit sources aswell now. This article will give a lot of people an excuse to hurt and abuse their kids, it should never be published.

Not saying I don't agree but, Fact: Einstein was beaten to death's doorstep several times in his childhood.

I'm betting he'd have still done everything he did, even if he wasn't beaten. I suppose we'll never know.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

I think this is a pretty biased review, but those aren't that rare these days lest I'm mistaken.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

The Telegraph [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6926823/Smacked-children-more-successful-later-in-life-study-finds.html] reports that smacked children are more successful later in life than those who are not.

They mention that the research conducted in the United States, is likely to anger children?s rights campaigners who have unsuccessfully fought to ban smacking in Britain. It goes onto say that teenagers who had been hit by their parents from age seven to 11 were also found to be more successful at school than those not smacked but fared less well on some negative measures, such as getting involved in more fights.

As a counter point they say that previous studies have suggested that smacking children can lead them to develop behavioural problems such as being more aggressive.

So tell me, do you agree with this study about how children fare better if they were subjected to "reasonable chastisement"?. Were you smacked as a child?.

Oh and "smacking" means to hit, it's a british slang word.

What the debate rarely lacks is the maturity of distinguishing between the occasional smack on the bottom and regular beatings for minor things.

I was smacked a couple of times as a kid (the logic being I didn't need to be smacked very much to see the pattern).

Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]

This was the way I was raised, alot of people can't distinguish between parents who discipline their children over some drunk who beats their kids half to death. Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.

 

[I Stomp on Kittens]

Well this isn't true about my brother.

 

[ma55ter_fett]

I got plenty of "smacks" as a kid, and I can honestly say I deserved all but one.

That being said I don't think I would ever beat my own kids, I guess time will tell.

 

[Buizel91]

i was hit, but not hard, just enough to say dont do that again, u know, like when ya tap ya dog on the nose, it'll hurt it, but not enough to make it cry.

but that stopped when i was 8 and my parents let me live my life how i wanted =) laid back parents or what, i was aloud till 10 on weekeends =D although i had to stay close to home

 

[Epitome]

It does not say what these kids were smacked for? Was it for refusing to eat their vegtables or for getting less than 100%. I dont believe in smacking children. You do not control with fear but with respect, if they do something wrong then yes they must be punished but resorting to violence just makes the parent seem weak and one day that kid will be big enough to hit back.

I was never hit as a child and all through my teen years nothin was ever flat out forbidden, Everything was up for discussion and if I could make a good enough case for myself then that was okay. All that was asked ma always knew where I was.

But my neighbour he is a little shit. His da a good friend of mine and he used to get hit, but hen he grew to be 5" 8 and his da stopped at 5" 4 and one da when he tried to smack the kid the kid smacked him back, threw the whole power balance.

 

[smithy1234]

I think I was at some time or another, when I was around 7 or 8. But not all the time, though I don't agree with the findings of this study. 179 people were surveyed? I mean come on now, that's not nearly enough to make any solid conclusions. And is it really better to have a large group of aggressive people who attend university or a large group of passive, peaceful people who decide not to go to university? Hoorah for more violent people in the world?

 

[katsa5]

I was spanked once, and I deserved it. Public cursing and defiance from a four-year old. ^^:: Yeah, I was a demon kid. But I was a four year-old, too young for understanding why something was wrong and too young to be reasoned with. It was the most clear and inarguable way to learn. This is also why it was reserved for 'worst case'. I appreciate the intention of those against smacking, but they should save their energies for real abuse cases (unjustified pain and degredation) instead of 'just hate everybody, just in case'.

Yes I was smacked and I think I turned out fine. People often complement me on how polite I am. Also a lot of the people I know who's parents didn't smack them turned out to be right dicks.

I would agree. That has been my experience as well.