Smacked children more successful later in life, study finds
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I was smacked a little as a child and Im fine, I think.
I'm doing pretty well at school and I am not really aggresive.
I think the studies are right. I know some people who have push-over parents and are doing horrible at school and pick fights with everyone.
I'm doing pretty well at school and I am not really aggresive.
I think the studies are right. I know some people who have push-over parents and are doing horrible at school and pick fights with everyone.
Two very important topics that need to be associated with each other more often...rossatdi said:
Smacking kids is the best way to show them whose boss, you take away thier TV and they go to a friend's house, you take away thier friends, they simply draw something on the walls or just in general piss you off, saying "I WANNA WATCH TV!"
But if you smack them, it hurts them. And what do little kids hate the most? Pain! Not boredom or lack of activity. Pain.
But if you smack them, it hurts them. And what do little kids hate the most? Pain! Not boredom or lack of activity. Pain.
I doubt the problem so much is a lack of discipline as much as it is that it would seem that parents are not so involved in their childrens lives these days, deferring to the idiot box (tv), video games and hired 'professionals'.
That's not to say don't invoke discipline (as was once said, 'spare the rod, spoil the child' (maybe not so draconian though)), just know when it is appropriate, and such knowledge will manifest if you spend time with the child and work out how they think. Applying a immutable plan to parenting won't always work on multiple kids, and certainly won't make them the same.
For example, there's my 2 brothers and I, all raised in a manner as fair and as similar to each other as possible. Youngest bro is a bit of a chatterbox but means well and is working towards employment in catering and cooking, middle bro is a bullying arsehole (picks on youngest one mercilessly) who is the rugger bugger and a lout of sorts and then there's me, the ambitious and cynical intellectual who is pursuing a degree in physics. 3 entirely different kinds of people from a similar parenting plan.
That's not to say don't invoke discipline (as was once said, 'spare the rod, spoil the child' (maybe not so draconian though)), just know when it is appropriate, and such knowledge will manifest if you spend time with the child and work out how they think. Applying a immutable plan to parenting won't always work on multiple kids, and certainly won't make them the same.
For example, there's my 2 brothers and I, all raised in a manner as fair and as similar to each other as possible. Youngest bro is a bit of a chatterbox but means well and is working towards employment in catering and cooking, middle bro is a bullying arsehole (picks on youngest one mercilessly) who is the rugger bugger and a lout of sorts and then there's me, the ambitious and cynical intellectual who is pursuing a degree in physics. 3 entirely different kinds of people from a similar parenting plan.
I was smacked, plenty of times, and I turned out fine. I would only hit a child if they deserved it.
A child would be more likely to listen to you if you smack him/her than if you just put him on a chair and not tell him to move for 5 minuts.
It also concludes that half the people here have an erection.
A child would be more likely to listen to you if you smack him/her than if you just put him on a chair and not tell him to move for 5 minuts.
A recent study finds this statement to be 100% accurate.HSIAMetalKing said:
It also concludes that half the people here have an erection.
...I was a smacked child
FUCKING YESSSS
I think you should be allowed to smack children. Just putting that out there
FUCKING YESSSS
I think you should be allowed to smack children. Just putting that out there
*sigh*McHanhan said:
There is nothing in the article that operationally defines what we are talking about. At the end of the article it says we should create a delineation between a light smack on the wrist from a roundhouse punch to the face. I agree, but how do you propose that we do this?
One portion said that so long as there were no marks or bruises.
Fine, I know five different ways I could hurt a child without leaving marks.
It says that it should only be used when an incident dictates that a child be taught that something is dangerous.
Well and good, but the article indicated that those who are smacked are more likely to exhibit aggression and get into fights.
This, however, puts me off soundly:
ON THE CONTRARY! I have two younger brothers, and I have a great many methods meant to demonstrate that they have done something wrong. If you do not understand your child well enough to teach it right from wrong then perhaps you shouldn't be popping out children!!!
All of this aside, I almost ALWAYS side with the preponderance of evidence. That body of evidence (a decade or so of studies - largely agreeing with one another) is not contradicted by ONE contrary study. NOW What this means, is that OTHER researchers need to take this study, and REPLICATE IT!
If its findings are sound, spectacular. A new line of thinking is born. If it turns out they were misguided, then no harm no foul.
[oh - and asking how badly affected a teenager is by the beatings they receive from their parents is likely to be effected by social desirability.]
While I agree with your restaurant sentiments, I feel that a bit of logic when going on an airplane would be appreciated. I have to make jokes about "one shot of cognac for me, and one for the screaming twerp behind me if you think it will get him to stop crying."rossatdi said:
Oh... and movie theaters.
Well I don't think spanking is equivalent to abuse.WrongSprite said:
I certainly don't agree with hitting a child out of anger, but using physical punishment has worked for thousands of years. I was certainly spanked as a kid, and I don't hold any animosity toward my parents and am certainly not 'unsuccessful' (Though that's a bit of a subjective term).
I will spank my kids, but I'll also use other methods. Spanking isn't to be used as an 'end all be all' for punishment, and anyone who uses it that way is a poor parent. Spanking is reserved for the very bad behaviours, where other, smaller 'issues' can easily be worked out by a firm talk or a grounding. That's how my parents did it with me! Disrespect and dishonesty got me spanking. Everything else got me grounded and 'timed out'.
If needs must, I will clip my children along the side of the head. I will endeavour not to lose my temper, and I will use this only as a means of discipline, not anger. Having discussed this with my girlfriend (hypothetically...we have these kind of talks), and she has promised to hit me if I hit any children we may have in the distant future.
Fair trade. It encourages me not to be unduly indiscriminate, but at the same time, the threat of physical violence is still there.
I think, frankly, that in all likelihood, the correlation is between parents willing to discipline their children, and one's, frankly, not. It simply so happens that there is a correlation between disciplining one's children and a light smack in this particular case.
Fair trade. It encourages me not to be unduly indiscriminate, but at the same time, the threat of physical violence is still there.
I think, frankly, that in all likelihood, the correlation is between parents willing to discipline their children, and one's, frankly, not. It simply so happens that there is a correlation between disciplining one's children and a light smack in this particular case.
Technically I was hit, but being spanked before the age of 12 isn't really hitting in my mind. It doesn't hurt as much as it is kind of embarrassing and humiliating.
I consider myself to be awesome in every way, so I find it effective. Far more effective than being told why what I did was wrong as most kids are selfish little bastards that don't care about your explanations.
I consider myself to be awesome in every way, so I find it effective. Far more effective than being told why what I did was wrong as most kids are selfish little bastards that don't care about your explanations.
A thousand times this. Children and teenagers of the current generation just seem to misbehave more and more, and have less respect for any kind of authority. Before I start sounding like an old geezer, I'm only 22. The change is just that noticeable.ImprovizoR said:
My parents used discipline to great effect, and I'm thankful for it. I don't think it's right when parents take it too far, but the absence of any kind of discipline does a lot of harm, too.