Yes yes, but the other side of this argument has just as many "studies" that "prove" otherwise. That's the problem with "studies"-- anyone can do them.
Their kids are their equals. Age is not a part of the equation when determining a person's belonging to humanity. Assault is always assault, regardless of magnitude, target or purpose. I have never understood how assaulting a defenseless child can be seen as something better and more innocent than assaulting a drunkard at a bar...Daystar Clarion said:Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.
Exactly. The whole 'equals' thing is an obvious failure. The whole point of growing up is testing limits. Parents are their to carefully guide development without restricting growth. I smack when the kid is out of line is not a bad thing. As long as it is a rare thing.Daystar Clarion said:This was the way I was raised, alot of people can't distinguish between parents who discipline their children over some drunk who beats their kids half to death. Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.rossatdi said:Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]
I'm sorry, but no, I disagree. the vast majority of people I know who were never hit as children are pretentious morons who think themselves above the 'commoners' who were hit growing up. Like most things in life, the intention behind something is what does the most damage, like someone further up said, when you burn yourself you associate that pain with heat, you don't fear that cause, you just learn not to touch it. Fear and caution are two different things.Nomad said:Their kids are their equals. Age is not a part of the equation when determining a person's belonging to humanity. Assault is always assault, regardless of magnitude, target or purpose. I have never understood how assaulting a defenseless child can be seen as something better and more innocent than assaulting a drunkard at a bar...Daystar Clarion said:Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.
I don't agree with beating a child, this is where people seem to get confused. A tap round the back of the head causes no pain, just discomfort. Beating a child is a completely different matter.TheSkaAssassin said:I've worked as a lifeguard for three years. If anything is certain its that my children will be beaten.
Wow, it's like your my long lost brother or something lol. People seem to think that punishing a child physically means breaking out the hammer and smashing your kid's kneecaps.rossatdi said:Exactly. The whole 'equals' thing is an obvious failure. The whole point of growing up is testing limits. Parents are their to carefully guide development without restricting growth. I smack when the kid is out of line is not a bad thing. As long as it is a rare thing.Daystar Clarion said:This was the way I was raised, alot of people can't distinguish between parents who discipline their children over some drunk who beats their kids half to death. Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.rossatdi said:Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]
If the kid is constantly stepping out of line there's something further down the causality scale that needs to be addressed but nothing trumps a thump when your kids is screaming in the supermarket aisle.
(My parents never took us to a restaurant until we were both able to sit politely and eat with our own hands, bar rare exceptions. I wish more people did this.)
I have been secretly suspicious that my Dad was cheating. But that was only because he had a great job and we never seemed to have much money. In retrospect in turned out to be because they'd gotten their mortgage at the wrong time - embarrassing considering he's a property letting agent.Daystar Clarion said:Wow, it's like your my long lost brother or something lol. People seem to think that punishing a child physically means breaking out the hammer and smashing your kid's kneecaps.rossatdi said:Exactly. The whole 'equals' thing is an obvious failure. The whole point of growing up is testing limits. Parents are their to carefully guide development without restricting growth. I smack when the kid is out of line is not a bad thing. As long as it is a rare thing.Daystar Clarion said:This was the way I was raised, alot of people can't distinguish between parents who discipline their children over some drunk who beats their kids half to death. Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.rossatdi said:Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]
If the kid is constantly stepping out of line there's something further down the causality scale that needs to be addressed but nothing trumps a thump when your kids is screaming in the supermarket aisle.
(My parents never took us to a restaurant until we were both able to sit politely and eat with our own hands, bar rare exceptions. I wish more people did this.)
Linkage between child beating and poor awareness of property market conditions?Zeeky_Santos said:May I ask what in gods name that has to do with anything being discussed?rossatdi said:I have been secretly suspicious that my Dad was cheating. But that was only because he had a great job and we never seemed to have much money. In retrospect in turned out to be because they'd gotten their mortgage at the wrong time - embarrassing considering he's a property letting agent.Daystar Clarion said:Wow, it's like your my long lost brother or something lol. People seem to think that punishing a child physically means breaking out the hammer and smashing your kid's kneecaps.rossatdi said:Exactly. The whole 'equals' thing is an obvious failure. The whole point of growing up is testing limits. Parents are their to carefully guide development without restricting growth. I smack when the kid is out of line is not a bad thing. As long as it is a rare thing.Daystar Clarion said:This was the way I was raised, alot of people can't distinguish between parents who discipline their children over some drunk who beats their kids half to death. Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.rossatdi said:Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]
If the kid is constantly stepping out of line there's something further down the causality scale that needs to be addressed but nothing trumps a thump when your kids is screaming in the supermarket aisle.
(My parents never took us to a restaurant until we were both able to sit politely and eat with our own hands, bar rare exceptions. I wish more people did this.)