Smacked children more successful later in life, study finds

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HSIAMetalKing

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Yes yes, but the other side of this argument has just as many "studies" that "prove" otherwise. That's the problem with "studies"-- anyone can do them.
 

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No, I don't agree. The fact will always remain that when that boy is 18, you're not going to hit him because he might take your teeth if you do- and he'd be right. If you can't keep your hands to yourself, then why should he?

If you haven't got the time to control a kid's movements by confinement (toddler pen), and if you don't have the patience to explain until your face is blue (and then some more), then what business have you got being a parent?

I wasn't hit as a child- save once.
 

Cmwissy

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All children are different and are gonna react to a different way to being hit.




These days though - you try to smack a kid over 12 years old and he'll have your teeth out.
 

Arkhangelsk

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Um, there are other ways to teach discipline, just because smacking is more effective, doesn't mean it's more right.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.
Their kids are their equals. Age is not a part of the equation when determining a person's belonging to humanity. Assault is always assault, regardless of magnitude, target or purpose. I have never understood how assaulting a defenseless child can be seen as something better and more innocent than assaulting a drunkard at a bar...

I wonder, by the way, how most of the proponents of this would react to me "smacking" my wife to "make her learn".
 

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I've been shouted at, carried forcibly to the scene of my crimes or to my room, made to do stuff and generally treated like an unruly serf, like every other child.

No hitting though, though I remember once when my mother went to pat me on the head in a friendly "oh you scamp" manner and badly misjudged the distance between her hand and my head, meaning she clapped me round the back of the head and made me cry.

That was an accident, though

If anything, my parent's argumentative, hypocritical and generally short-fused behaviour has raised me to become, when in the presence of opposition, Indignant, Self-Righteous and Lofty.

This is perfect for my desires to work for the Foreign Office
 

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I was when I was younger, but not much after I got into my teens.
Probably because I was well behaved and brilliant in school by then. Must've worked.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
rossatdi said:
Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]
This was the way I was raised, alot of people can't distinguish between parents who discipline their children over some drunk who beats their kids half to death. Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.
Exactly. The whole 'equals' thing is an obvious failure. The whole point of growing up is testing limits. Parents are their to carefully guide development without restricting growth. I smack when the kid is out of line is not a bad thing. As long as it is a rare thing.

If the kid is constantly stepping out of line there's something further down the causality scale that needs to be addressed but nothing trumps a thump when your kids is screaming in the supermarket aisle.

(My parents never took us to a restaurant until we were both able to sit politely and eat with our own hands, bar rare exceptions. I wish more people did this.)
 
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Nomad said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.
Their kids are their equals. Age is not a part of the equation when determining a person's belonging to humanity. Assault is always assault, regardless of magnitude, target or purpose. I have never understood how assaulting a defenseless child can be seen as something better and more innocent than assaulting a drunkard at a bar...
I'm sorry, but no, I disagree. the vast majority of people I know who were never hit as children are pretentious morons who think themselves above the 'commoners' who were hit growing up. Like most things in life, the intention behind something is what does the most damage, like someone further up said, when you burn yourself you associate that pain with heat, you don't fear that cause, you just learn not to touch it. Fear and caution are two different things.
 

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I've worked as a lifeguard for three years. If anything is certain its that my children will be beaten.
 
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TheSkaAssassin said:
I've worked as a lifeguard for three years. If anything is certain its that my children will be beaten.
I don't agree with beating a child, this is where people seem to get confused. A tap round the back of the head causes no pain, just discomfort. Beating a child is a completely different matter.
 
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rossatdi said:
Daystar Clarion said:
rossatdi said:
Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]
This was the way I was raised, alot of people can't distinguish between parents who discipline their children over some drunk who beats their kids half to death. Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.
Exactly. The whole 'equals' thing is an obvious failure. The whole point of growing up is testing limits. Parents are their to carefully guide development without restricting growth. I smack when the kid is out of line is not a bad thing. As long as it is a rare thing.

If the kid is constantly stepping out of line there's something further down the causality scale that needs to be addressed but nothing trumps a thump when your kids is screaming in the supermarket aisle.

(My parents never took us to a restaurant until we were both able to sit politely and eat with our own hands, bar rare exceptions. I wish more people did this.)
Wow, it's like your my long lost brother or something lol. People seem to think that punishing a child physically means breaking out the hammer and smashing your kid's kneecaps.
 

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I was spanked with a belt up til I was ten, then my mom started grounding me. Since I'm not some punk or whiny little emo kid, I'd say I turned out alright.

EDIT: Dunno if anyone else is a fan, but here's a good guide: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=beat
 

rossatdi

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Daystar Clarion said:
rossatdi said:
Daystar Clarion said:
rossatdi said:
Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]
This was the way I was raised, alot of people can't distinguish between parents who discipline their children over some drunk who beats their kids half to death. Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.
Exactly. The whole 'equals' thing is an obvious failure. The whole point of growing up is testing limits. Parents are their to carefully guide development without restricting growth. I smack when the kid is out of line is not a bad thing. As long as it is a rare thing.

If the kid is constantly stepping out of line there's something further down the causality scale that needs to be addressed but nothing trumps a thump when your kids is screaming in the supermarket aisle.

(My parents never took us to a restaurant until we were both able to sit politely and eat with our own hands, bar rare exceptions. I wish more people did this.)
Wow, it's like your my long lost brother or something lol. People seem to think that punishing a child physically means breaking out the hammer and smashing your kid's kneecaps.
I have been secretly suspicious that my Dad was cheating. But that was only because he had a great job and we never seemed to have much money. In retrospect in turned out to be because they'd gotten their mortgage at the wrong time - embarrassing considering he's a property letting agent.
 

rossatdi

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Zeeky_Santos said:
rossatdi said:
Daystar Clarion said:
rossatdi said:
Daystar Clarion said:
rossatdi said:
Me: [making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: Don't do that or you're getting a smack.
Me: [continues making trouble]
Parent: You were warned. [smack]
Me: [trouble making stopped]
This was the way I was raised, alot of people can't distinguish between parents who discipline their children over some drunk who beats their kids half to death. Alot better than having one of those liberal douchebag parents who treat their kids as 'equals'.
Exactly. The whole 'equals' thing is an obvious failure. The whole point of growing up is testing limits. Parents are their to carefully guide development without restricting growth. I smack when the kid is out of line is not a bad thing. As long as it is a rare thing.

If the kid is constantly stepping out of line there's something further down the causality scale that needs to be addressed but nothing trumps a thump when your kids is screaming in the supermarket aisle.

(My parents never took us to a restaurant until we were both able to sit politely and eat with our own hands, bar rare exceptions. I wish more people did this.)
Wow, it's like your my long lost brother or something lol. People seem to think that punishing a child physically means breaking out the hammer and smashing your kid's kneecaps.
I have been secretly suspicious that my Dad was cheating. But that was only because he had a great job and we never seemed to have much money. In retrospect in turned out to be because they'd gotten their mortgage at the wrong time - embarrassing considering he's a property letting agent.
May I ask what in gods name that has to do with anything being discussed?
Linkage between child beating and poor awareness of property market conditions?
 

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I think the only benifit children get is am early assciation between action and consequence, something which can very easily be given to them throught non-voilent punishments.

That said, smacking is probably very effective at this, cause there's a very immediate and clear corralotion for the child between them not stopping crying, and the big red hand mark across their face.

Nah, jks, thats not smaking, thats child abuse. And hence is not funny. Ever.
*Serious Face*