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newwiseman

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Leole said:
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Let's assume they let you in your house, for whatever reason. What if the guy hiding in the attic manages to escape it, and find your house, maybe because you left your light on, maybe because he felt like it, unimportant details, and he decides to take you hostage. This scenario, unlikely as it might be, is still a concern for the Police Department, they have to make sure there isn't even the possibility of collateral damage.

For them, it was safer that you'd be sitting on the street, with them, so they could protect you more easily.

And, TBH, you being an ass doesn't help anyone, I understand that your day might have been long and hard and very tiresome, but that's no excuse to being annoying to other people who are also doing their long, hard and very tiresome work.
Yes me being on the street out in the open keeps me safe from a gun, and all the back fences got barb wired a few years ago because of thefts in the neighbor hood, no windows on the ground floor in the front of the house.

For everyone saying just go somewhere, I walk 10 miles a day; to and from work is five miles. If I was able to get my car out of my garage and go somewhere I would had gladly. As it was I had no money for the bus (that's if I was to walk a mile down to the nearest stop and wait an hour for it, I didnt't have a jacket because I was planning on being able to enter my home before it got cold, and there is no where else to go in my neighborhood.

Yes I am very Fuck the police, since I was in 10th grade I've been harassed and searched at least once every three months for matching the description of a burglar in the neighborhood ("let me guess he was white, and had a buzzed head") I've probably said that as many times as "Have you tried turning it off an on?"

As for being entitled and spoiled, Your entitled to enter your house.

I always follow police instruction, I backed up to the curb when they told me too. Fortunate for me I still have freedom of speech in this country and can publicly ***** about an ass in a suit keeping me out of my home.
 
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Roofstone said:
First, and forgive me for this really.. You are kind off an ass.

And I am calm and cooperative with authority figures, they are only doing their job after all. And to their defense they couldn't know what kinda weapons the man had tucked away.
basically this.

OP you made the situation worse by acting like the ignorant jackass of the crowd, there is ALWAYS that person their, and if you don't notice them, you are either that person or it ain't a crowd.
 

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In general I treat cops with respect for the same reason I do so for firemen, paramedics, doctors, etc. These are the people who I might need to save my life or my property one day. They do dangerous, tedious, mostly thankless jobs. They have to deal with people when they're at their very worst, and be ready at a moment's notice to do shit the rest of us can't think of doing.

Sure, some cops are assholes. The ones I've met have been, well, people; sometimes petty, or surly, or bigoted, but basically people.
 

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ninonybox360 said:
I deal with authority figures who are only doing there job like a civilized human being, I don't try and make there jobs any harder.
This. As someone that has studied with cops and is currently studying to be a lawyer I can tell you that 9 times out of 10 it isn't the cop's fault that its taking so long. It is the department regulations that require they do certain things, like not let you in your house. Sure it may be stupid but the officers on the scene have no control over it.
 

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Police earn my respect. I have an overweight police officer that patrols my little town. NOW WHAT GOOD IS HE GOING TO BE IN A FOOTCHASE?! I have a few others who like to hide. IMO presence is the most important job of an officer, not hiding in the bush waiting for a crime to happen instead of preventing it. Oh wait, the state doesn't get any money for prevented crimes. Hmmm...
 

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Dude, seriously, this is why the Portland police are so edgy around people. Why does everyone here have to be a colossal asshat to them? They were doing their job and trying to keep you safe. If they had let you in, and that guy had shimmied into your place with a gun, everyone would have been on them for not doing their job and preventing a dangerous situation.

As to how I treat them, it's with respect. I've only met one cop who was an ass and she was a Highway Patrol Officer who pulled over the driver for going two miles over the speed limit. She was really rude and mean because two people had been killed recently by speeders. Despite this, she still let us go without a ticket.

The other cops were wonderfully professional. I had to call them once when I thought there were intruders breaking into the house (turns out it was unannounced roofers). Three cops, one of which was SWAT came to my rescue and made sure the house was safe before having me come out from my hiding place in case someone was inside.

So they're not jerks who do convoluted things just to piss you off, they're just trying to prevent whatever bad situation they can think of.
 

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I like this story, but without an age range I'm a little confused about the context. It may be far funnier depending on your age.

Anyway, I support smart-ass answers to retarded orders, just be careful, lest you be attacked by a cop who then arrests YOU for "disrupting the peace" or "assaulting an officer." Judges can't be trusted to not side with dicks that abuse their power, so just be careful or make sure to film altercations if your state/country allows it.
I'm 25, and there was way to many people standing around with cameras hoping something would happen for them to do anything to me.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
I've been lucky enough to not really have to deal with them, the local cops here are fine but I've heard stories bout how the rangers will fuck you up if they don't like you so.... if I had to deal with them I would probably be... respectful.
 

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Having a cousin who is a police officer, I have nothing but the utmost respect for them because they risk their live just about everyday so you stay safe. You're just being a complete asshole because you couldn't go in your house. You could have gone anywhere else like a bar or a Starbucks and just relaxed. Instead you heckled the police for doing their job because you're an idiot. Oh and just so you know, cops tend to remember people who aren't cooperative, or who are just douchebags in general to them when they are doing their jobs. So if you ever need a cop to come to your house, you might be waiting a little bit longer than most people.
 

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Wow... I feel embarassed that I am complimented your jackassery by responding to this forum, but I'm bored and you have a complete lack of authority.

If I was in their shoes, I would take my time responding to ANY event involving you.
 

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Dr. Pepper Unlimited said:
...Per department policy, if they block the street off, they have to block it off for every single person, ...
They didn't block it for every one, they blocked off 1.5 houses on the left and right of the suspects place only on our street, not the other side of the block, not the other side of my duplex.
 

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Audemas said:
Having a cousin who is a police officer, I have nothing but the utmost respect for them because they risk their live just about everyday so you stay safe. You're just being a complete asshole because you couldn't go in your house. You could have gone anywhere else like a bar or a Starbucks and just relaxed. Instead you heckled the police for doing their job because you're an idiot. Oh and just so you know, cops tend to remember people who aren't cooperative, or who are just douchebags in general to them when they are doing their jobs. So if you ever need a cop to come to your house, you might be waiting a little bit longer than most people.
The cops know my address, as a school employee I'm a mandatory reporter of child abuse, I see a kid get spanked and they had it coming I have to file a report, and the cop has to take the report. Why because those are our jobs.

Juor said:
Dude, seriously, this is why the Portland police are so edgy around people. snip.
The Portland police are edgy because the gang in town is known to kill cops, this is Eugene.
 

wax

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When dealing with the authorities I say as little as possible and keep my answers short and specific to the questions.
I like to choose my battles, not just randomly mouth my way into them.
 

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McMullen said:
I don't really think what you've done is something to be proud of. Your response to a potentially fatal standoff is to whine about how you can't get into your house and then make things difficult for the people trying to resolve the situation?

You have more in common with the kids jacked up on candy than you'd probably like to think. Entitled, spoiled, petty, possessed of horribly skewed priorities, and just plain unpleasant.

Just go do something else for a while. 3 hours out of the house isn't going to hurt you.
Actually the kids doesn't know better, as an adult he should.

What you need to understand is that cops are doing their job and they have to follow protocol. In cases where they contact SWAT they can't come around it, breaking the rule and endangering a civilian at this point could cause them to lose their job. Pissing them off just because you are bored just makes you an ass. Do not brag about this.
 

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I don't like the police. No one in NYC likes the police. Not even the police.

I especially don't like the ones that beat the shit out of unarmed protesters as if this were a third world country having a revolt. And my police force is doing this to a lot of people, everyday, down at wall street.

And the police hardly even show up for where real crime is a problem up north, in the Bronx, where street crime is insane compared to the rest of the city. Yet I almost never see them or their cars, with the exception of a few auxiliary ones or traffic officers. The project buildings, which are owned by the city, get no protection.

Now I won't bother a cop nor treat him any worse than anyone else by default, but I don't hold him at a higher regard because of his job, because ether of those things go ageist my personal philosophies.
 

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Funnily enough, no. I am a smart ass, but not to someone carrying a 9mm handgun. Either way, I never really have trouble with them, so no. I do have to say, it seems like the majority of the cops in my area are total dicks. However, I went downtown recently, and got into a conversation with a cop who works downtown (different police force), and this turned into me talking with a bunch of other cops, his friends. The downtown cops are much friendlier than the ones in my town.
 
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newwiseman said:
Dr. Pepper Unlimited said:
...Per department policy, if they block the street off, they have to block it off for every single person, ...
They didn't block it for every one, they blocked off 1.5 houses on the left and right of the suspects place only on our street, not the other side of the block, not the other side of my duplex.
Then they were simply creating a quarantined perimeter around the suspect's location. Standard procedure as usual. Letting you in would have created a liability and a worst case situation they couldn't afford to risk. Let them do their job. It's stressful enough already.
 

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newwiseman said:
Audemas said:
Having a cousin who is a police officer, I have nothing but the utmost respect for them because they risk their live just about everyday so you stay safe. You're just being a complete asshole because you couldn't go in your house. You could have gone anywhere else like a bar or a Starbucks and just relaxed. Instead you heckled the police for doing their job because you're an idiot. Oh and just so you know, cops tend to remember people who aren't cooperative, or who are just douchebags in general to them when they are doing their jobs. So if you ever need a cop to come to your house, you might be waiting a little bit longer than most people.
The cops know my address, as a school employee I'm a mandatory reporter of child abuse, I see a kid get spanked and they had it coming I have to file a report, and the cop has to take the report. Why because those are our jobs.

Juor said:
Dude, seriously, this is why the Portland police are so edgy around people. snip.
The Portland police are edgy because the gang in town is known to kill cops, this is Eugene.
You clearly hate police and kids, yet you work with both... I must ask you why?
 

newwiseman

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wax said:
When dealing with the authorities I say as little as possible and keep my answers short and specific to the questions.
I like to choose my battles, not just randomly mouth my way into them.
I'm anything but random, I may be loud but it's not like I'm shouting obscenities whenever I see a cop. I yelled something maybe once every 20-30 minutes for the three hours.

The officer in my afternoon building, Officer Savage (I know his name rocks), just stopped by my office during lunch and said his boss didn't know what he was doing. Procedurally when he called SWAT he should have had the street cleared and he didn't. Also they apparently didn't have any reason to believe he was armed. The guy just didn't show up for court so they came to arrest him and then it blew out of proportion.

He gave me a contact in the department to file a complaint for situations handling. The guy in charge apparently called in a bunch of off duty people that ended up just standing around and they are not happy about it.