Sniping is officially WORTHLESS in Black Ops

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Double Edit: I'm actually still not done ranting. Every gun class was rigged in MW2, there's no reason to come down hard on people for sniping. Assault Rifles had the ACR, which practically fired fucking laser beams, and the SCAR, which punched holes in everything to devastating effect. LMGs had the RPD which has more stopping power than a train and the AUG which has almost no recoil for a machine gun. Shottys had more rigged akimbo bullshit than you can shake a stick at, let alone extended mags AA-12 shenanigans. With pistols you could dual wield Deagles and .44 revolvers without breaking your arms, and we aren't even going to get into damage done with dual UMPs or Raffickas. Seriously people sniper rifles need to be able to quickscope because it's their own brand of bad ass, every class has it.

That's just scratching the surface too, we could talk about One Man Army and infinite rocket launcher faggotry. Shut the fuck up about sniper rifles, game mechanics get abused no matter how 'realistic' they are.

And everything you just mentioned has either been fixed, taken out, or ballanced, including quickscoping. It's just laughable how you all seem to think that you're the majoirty here and that everyone else is just jealous of your 1337 #4x0r skills, no, you're not the majority, and the people got what they wanted, so either snipe like a man or use something else. It's not game breaking, it's not a personal attack, it's ballancing to make the game more enjoyable, if that leads to less 360 quick scope montages on youtube, then so be it, but for now, go and watch Machinema directors ***** and moan about it for a month before they realise that the game is better for it.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

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I'm not saying I want it to be real life. I am saying that not only is the ability to use a sniper rifle like a shotgun ridiculous, but the CoD games are known for their high level of realism.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

CoD is not a realistic shooter. Why make one play style realistic when none of the other play styles are realistic?

That's an idiotic arguement. CoD has to be somewhat realistic. I'm sorry buy a guy running around popping people in the head with gun meant for tactical head shots is a stupid way of playing the game. And all of the other play styles are somewhat realistic. An explosives guy will set up traps with bombs. Not huck them into streets randomly and hope for a kill. An assuault infantry will go right into the fray. A light machine gunner generally goes after people in narrow pathways to maximize the weapon proficiency.

Don't call CoD a Non-realistic shooter just because the way you want to play isn't how war works IRL.

I don't get what you people are defending it for. If you want to go close range choose a close range gun. Also if CoD wasn't at least trying for realism why do they have real guns and places. Ya'know, apart from zombie.

CoD isn't realistic in the least. Running around and pulling a knife out of your ass in an instant while you are running around with a gun that requires 2 hands to use is the opposite of real. You should either SHOOT the guy when up close or knock the guy down with your gun, then SHOOT him. Also, being able to press a button that magically throws a grenade from your ass while holding a 2 handed weapon is nothing like reality either.

 

[TK421]

"Quickscoping is a cheap way to play. We?re specifically going to gimp Quickscoping, sorry. Play straight-up!" - Josh Olin Whiny *****

Wait, did I do that? Oops.
It seems to me that people should just get better and find a way to combat this (e.g. what happed to the noobtoob) rather than taking it out of the game.

 

[Zero_ctrl]

Read: Quick-scoping is officially worthless in Black Ops.
Not sniping.

But really, go Treyarch.
I hate quick-scopers.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Go Q.Q about a REAL issue.

QQ doesn't mean cry, it means to quit the game.

 

[Musiclly enhanced]

so what about ppl like me who snipe but i zoom in take my shot, get the kill and zoom out in under 2 seconds

 

[Sonic Doctor]

See. This seems like they are making camping more legitimate. Thats just the stupidest thing in my book. I understand quick scoping is bad and needs to be nerfed at times but that just seems ridiculous.

In my opinion camping should never have been deemed not legitimate. Some people actually want to play like real life, and guess what, snipers camp. It is what they do, they sit, they wait until the target gets to the right position and then they take the shot. Real snipers don't go running around using their sniper rifles while running.

Camping is a real strategy. The problem is there are just so many people out there that get mad when they get dropped by a sniper and don't know where he shot from; that is the point of being a sniper.

To be invisible and dispatch targets without a confrontation.

Do I get mad when I am dropped by a sniper, yes, do I think camping is wrong, no, it is a legit strategy.

OH GOD NO!!!!!!

Are you saying that sniper rifles will now have to be used......... AS SNIPER RIFLES???

What is the world coming to.

My point exactly.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

snipers should have the ability to have one shot at winning a close range battle

Why? Should shotgun users have that one shot at winning a long range battle?

No. IIRC, the shotgun has a limited range. A sniper rifle is built to kill at range, which means if you get hit by a sniper bullet from 10 feet away, it's still highly effective. The sniper rifle's downside in close range is the fact it's not automatic so you have that one shot while an AR or SMG and spray to a degree.

The first page is by and large ignorant comments so I'll address mainly that issue:

The problem is that Call of Duty as a series (at least in most multiplayer modes) is not based around camping and the maps typically don't provide very many good sniper perches. Even when you get a good sniper perch, you can't sit there hard scoped all day or you'll get knifed, shot by some guy 2 feet outside your field of vision, or miss tons and tons of potential kills.

Quickscoping is different than a short hardscope: Quickscoping abused aim-assist, and if you watch videos of people doing it, you'll see the hardscope doesn't even come up on the screen, it just shows it zooming in and the guy is dead before he's even scoped. There is NOTHING wrong with Hardscoping then immediately shooting where you're fucking aiming, it's necessary for a sniper no matter how far back you are due to the sheer fact you can't sit there hardscoped in CoD, it's just not worth it. (Edit: Unless you have a thermal, but that shit is even more broken than quickscoping ever was)

Congratulations on breaking the game with your overnerf on what wasn't a huge problem in the first place. Now fix your goddamn killstreaks and get better anti-hack software.

This is exactly my point.

 

[Ashsaver]

This is a good thing,actually,now sniper rifle require a lot more skills,and beside,you can still no-scoping,just watch one of the Gamespot's now playing.

*Rule of fun demanded Quick Scope be nerfed.

 

[TG MLPDashie]

So it's not actually worthless, it's just going to be more realistic? I'm pretty sure that in real life snipers don't go around quickscoping

CoD isn't trying to be a realistic game. I'm pretty sure in real life you don't pull out your knife and knife someone when you have your gun already out and you can shoot him.

If you were ever looking for balanced online gameplay you came to the wrong game. Every CoD has needed a Promod just to get into any sort of condition where it's considered playable competitively. Back to 1.6 if you're looking for quickscoping.

Well, the dev should at least try to balance gameplay instead of purposefully doing the opposite just because someone on the dev team is a noob.

alright kid, pull your head out of your ass.

1) COD actually tries to make a realistic shooter, and i believe child that a person can hold the gun with 1 hand a wield a knife with another. your a moron

2) i believe your a noob because he helped make a f***ing million dollar game, have you? and quick-scoping was a way for people to get a cheap kill... thats why he removed it, A quick-scope was pretty much like a cross map Shotgun.

Seriously man before you call them a noob think about yourself, you mainly made this to get a good forum post, and you just hate this because now your only way to get a good kill on COD was removed. so why dont you think about something before trolling on a forum about this. I'm 15 and i know this... whats wrong with you man. So please stop harassing some developer because he tried to make the game more balanced, not everything can be perfect or have the entire game revolve around you kid. So pull your head out of your ass and maybe you should be thanking the developers for making a game instead of harassing them because YOU dont like the game because YOU cant play fair on it...

Seriously think about this kid.

 

[BenzSmoke]

Well, they are called sniper rifles. You're supposed to wait and line up your shot, calculate momentum and weight, and fire.
They aren't supposed to be insta-kill weapons that lock on to enemies at any range. So, yeah, I support Trearch's decision.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Are you saying that it's realistic for someone to, in a split second, pull a sniper rifle to their face and make an accurate shot on a target ten feet away?

When did I ever say that? It is realistic that a sniper rifle bullet hitting someone at close range is very effective. Aiming in a game WITH ANY GUN is so much easier than it is in real life even with analog sticks, with a mouse it's even more ridiculous.

 

[LogieBear]

This is an awesome new thing, I for one hate quickscoping, your supposed to be shooting at long range with patience, thats why it has a massive damage output because to use it you must sacrifice movement and agilty. . . .just like a real sniper.
Good ridance Quickscoping

 

[TG MLPDashie]

CoD is not a realistic shooter. Why make one play style realistic when none of the other play styles are realistic?

That's an idiotic arguement. CoD has to be somewhat realistic. I'm sorry buy a guy running around popping people in the head with gun meant for tactical head shots is a stupid way of playing the game. And all of the other play styles are somewhat realistic. An explosives guy will set up traps with bombs. Not huck them into streets randomly and hope for a kill. An assuault infantry will go right into the fray. A light machine gunner generally goes after people in narrow pathways to maximize the weapon proficiency.

Don't call CoD a Non-realistic shooter just because the way you want to play isn't how war works IRL.

I don't get what you people are defending it for. If you want to go close range choose a close range gun. Also if CoD wasn't at least trying for realism why do they have real guns and places. Ya'know, apart from zombie.

CoD isn't realistic in the least. Running around and pulling a knife out of your ass in an instant while you are running around with a gun that requires 2 hands to use is the opposite of real. You should either SHOOT the guy when up close or knock the guy down with your gun, then SHOOT him. Also, being able to press a button that magically throws a grenade from your ass while holding a 2 handed weapon is nothing like reality either.

read what i said before dumb-ass. its not like the gun weighs a fucking TONE. you can hold a gun with 1 hand while pulling a knife from your chest (its a clip that attaches to a shirt and holds the knife with a magnetic strip) also they have clips which holds grenades to your chest with a clip that holds the pin. seriously kid why dont you read about MODERN WARFARE or even about the VIETNAM WAR. there are things that can hold your weapons you twat.

LOOK AT THIS PICTURE
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SHE'S HOLDING A GUN WIHT ONE HAND :0 WHAT 'S HAPPENING GUNS ARE A TONE HOW CAN SHE HOLD IT WITH ONE HAND!?!?!?!

*Smug Sarcasm*

Go to bed child

 

[TG MLPDashie]

Are you saying that it's realistic for someone to, in a split second, pull a sniper rifle to their face and make an accurate shot on a target ten feet away?

When did I ever say that? It is realistic that a sniper rifle bullet hitting someone at close range is very effective. Aiming in a game WITH ANY GUN is so much easier than it is in real life even with analog sticks, with a mouse it's even more ridiculous.

Have you ever Fired a gun in life, I've shot an M1 Garand and believe me it is hard to aim, you need to remember wing trajectory, angle the winds blowing, Height and Size of the shell and/or target. trust me child not everything is like a game.

(BTW guys i havnt shot at a human i have shot at a target.)

 

[TG MLPDashie]

1) COD actually tries to make a realistic shooter, and i believe child that a person can hold the gun with 1 hand a wield a knife with another. your a moron

You're (not your) a moron for even thinking CoD is realistic at all, it's not even trying. You can wield a knife with say a pistol and use it effectively for close quarters combat. Soldiers using an assault rifle don't have their knife in one of their hands (the in-game character model in CoD is not even holding a knife like say in Metal Gear Solid). Why would a soldier hold a knife while holding an assault rifle? The gun they are holding is 1) more effective killing tool than a knife and 2) the gun they are holding has a melee range GREATER than a knife.[/quote
i never said they'd shoot the assault rifle, i said that they

1) COD actually tries to make a realistic shooter, and i believe child that a person can hold the gun with 1 hand a wield a knife with another. your a moron

You're (not your) a moron for even thinking CoD is realistic at all, it's not even trying. You can wield a knife with say a pistol and use it effectively for close quarters combat. Soldiers using an assault rifle don't have their knife in one of their hands (the in-game character model in CoD is not even holding a knife like say in Metal Gear Solid). Why would a soldier hold a knife while holding an assault rifle? The gun they are holding is 1) more effective killing tool than a knife and 2) the gun they are holding has a melee range GREATER than a knife.

I never said they'd fire the AR while holding the knife, im saying you can knife someone while holding a gun you dumb fuck, read my entire post before trolling.
go to bed!

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Have you ever Fired a gun in life, I've shot an M1 Garand and believe me it is hard to aim, you need to remember wing trajectory, angle the winds blowing, Height and Size of the shell and/or target. trust me child not everything is like a game.

I know guns are hard to aim. I'm saying in video games ALL guns are easier to aim.